Treehouse Brewing Julius Clone

[Cavpilot2000]

I bought cans about a month ago and I was disappointed. Something was off about it. Wasn't a bad beer just wasn't the Julius from the old building. Sounds like they had some issues scaling the recipe but they recently posted (I think on Twitter) they were happy with the way that specific batch came out. Sounds like they got it back to how it was. I'll have to try it again. Never had a pint there yet.

Didn't realize anyone from low o2 lived in the north east...though I guess residence doesn't come up often.

Yeah, this batch was absolutely divine (just a few weeks ago). Never had it draft before. You've got to give it a go!

I asked a while back on the forum if anybody was in the area, but nobody said yes at the time (that was probably a year ago). You're in Lincoln? I'm in Pembroke on the South Shore.

 

[h22lude]

Yeah, this batch was absolutely divine (just a few weeks ago). Never had it draft before. You've got to give it a go!

I asked a while back on the forum if anybody was in the area, but nobody said yes at the time (that was probably a year ago). You're in Lincoln? I'm in Pembroke on the South Shore.

Julius and Haze are two of my favorite NEIPAs (Congress and Mettle from Trillium are up there too). Glad Julius is back to how it was. Now I can't wait for the lines to die down when they start increasing their production.

Yup, Lincoln RI.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Did trades and recived Tree House (Love Alter Ego and Very Green among the other usuals) beers before I understood how hard it is to obtain. Appreciate them more now. Absolutely top of the line. We have Pinthouse Pizza here in Austin which puts out top notch IPAs/DIPAs also...and easier to obtain.

 

[braindead]

Any of you guys who can get Treehouse seeking any UK beers like Verdant, Cloudwater or Omnipollo?

 

[abeasst]

Sure.
10 lb Great Western 2row
3lb white wheat
1/2lb honey malt
1/2lb flaked oats

Mashed at 151 for 60min

FWH-0.2oz Columbus
20- 0.1oz Columbus
0.3 oz centennial
0.2oz citra
5-0.3 oz Columbus
2oz centennial
3.5 oz citra
0-0.3 oz Columbus
3 oz citra
2.5 oz centennial

Dry hopped at high krausen (day 2) with:
0.2 oz Columbus
2.5 oz centennial
3.5 oz citra

Dry hopped again on day 6 with:
1 oz centennial
2 oz citra

Kegged on day 8
OG 1.070
FG 1.022 (not sure how this happened)
6.3%

What size batch is this?

 

[bassist286]

Sure.
10 lb Great Western 2row
3lb white wheat
1/2lb honey malt
1/2lb flaked oats

Mashed at 151 for 60min

FWH-0.2oz Columbus
20- 0.1oz Columbus
0.3 oz centennial
0.2oz citra
5-0.3 oz Columbus
2oz centennial
3.5 oz citra
0-0.3 oz Columbus
3 oz citra
2.5 oz centennial

Dry hopped at high krausen (day 2) with:
0.2 oz Columbus
2.5 oz centennial
3.5 oz citra

Dry hopped again on day 6 with:
1 oz centennial
2 oz citra

Kegged on day 8
OG 1.070
FG 1.022 (not sure how this happened)
6.3%

am I counting 24oz. of hops? jeeze

 

[ultravista]

I bought the 5 gallon Great Fermentations Treehouse Julius clone. I would like suggestions for tweaking the recipe to improve it.

Any suggestions on what I can do to bring it inline with this page’s recipe?
—–
http://www.greatfermentations.com/downloads/instructions/beerkits/CaesarsTreehouseECIPAAG.pdf

10 lbs. 2-Row Brewer’s Malt
1 lbs. Golden Naked Oats
0.25 lbs. Flaked Oats
0.25 lbs. Carapils Malt
0.25 lbs. Honey Malt
1 lb. Corn Sugar @ end of the boil

mash temperature of 152° – 155°F

2 liquid hop extract shots

1 oz. Citra Flame Out
1 oz. Mosaic Flame Out
1 oz. Simcoe Flame Out

2 oz. Citra Dry Hop
2 oz. Mosaic Dry Hop
1 oz. Simcoe Dry Hop
—–

 

[ultravista]

I did read through the entire thread ...

What is the optimal yeast blend amount and % for a five gallon batch (6 in the fermenter)?

 

[couchsending]

I bought the 5 gallon Great Fermentations Treehouse Julius clone. I would like suggestions for tweaking the recipe to improve it.

Any suggestions on what I can do to bring it inline with this page’s recipe?
—–
http://www.greatfermentations.com/downloads/instructions/beerkits/CaesarsTreehouseECIPAAG.pdf

10 lbs. 2-Row Brewer’s Malt
1 lbs. Golden Naked Oats
0.25 lbs. Flaked Oats
0.25 lbs. Carapils Malt
0.25 lbs. Honey Malt
1 lb. Corn Sugar @ end of the boil

mash temperature of 152° – 155°F

2 liquid hop extract shots

1 oz. Citra Flame Out
1 oz. Mosaic Flame Out
1 oz. Simcoe Flame Out

2 oz. Citra Dry Hop
2 oz. Mosaic Dry Hop
1 oz. Simcoe Dry Hop
—–

If you believe Nate there is no Oats, Honey Malt, sugar used in Julius. I dont think there’s any Mosaic either so that kit isn’t really gonna get you close.

 

[couchsending]

I did read through the entire thread ...

What is the optimal yeast blend amount and % for a five gallon batch (6 in the fermenter)?

I think I’ve done 7 different versions with some sort of the S-04/T-58/WB-06 yeast blend. I still get some level
Of detectable phenols even as low as 10% T-58, 3% WB-06 and I don’t get the added complexity that they’re supposed to add. At this point I don’t think they’re adding all the yeast at the beginning of fermentation. I’m going to try a few different processes going forward but I haven’t tried yet so no idea if they’ll work.

 

[ultravista]

I have two of these kits in the freezer so it is what it is ...

Maybe I should stick with 1318 and see how it turns out.

 

[MaCheFai]

It looks similar to Braufessor's NEIPA recipe. I've made it several times with 1318 and it's damn good. Just be sure to keep the O2 out.

So I wouldn't sweat it. No one knows the exact recipe and yeast for Julius. So just brew, drink and be happy.

I have two of these kits in the freezer so it is what it is ...

Maybe I should stick with 1318 and see how it turns out.

 

[Trillium]

Here is a picture from their new facility. You don't buy huge sacks of malt like that unless it's a base malt. My guess is they are using Weyermann Pale Ale Malt.

Sorry, it's a little out of fucus..I did not have my good camera with me.

 

[Mer-man]

I wish I could get a big bag of W!

 

[Sawhorse-Josh]

would it totally boggle everyone's mind if this beer was fermented with a very common dry yeast that flocs pretty well?

You posted this back in 2016 and now it seems to be right. How did you know?

 

[Brewbuzzard]

I just checked out this thread and it sounded very interesting so I looked up the Tree House Brewery and I wouldn't call it tiny. Tiny is 5 to 10 barrels. It is a new and state of the art facility. Nice.

 

[couchsending]

When this thread started it was tiny....

 

[drez77]

I just checked out this thread and it sounded very interesting so I looked up the Tree House Brewery and I wouldn't call it tiny. Tiny is 5 to 10 barrels. It is a new and state of the art facility. Nice.

They started out on a 15g Sabco system then moved to a 5 bbl (I think) then to a 30 BBL and they are now on a 60 bbl.

 

[BostonianBrewer]

They started out on a 15g Sabco system then moved to a 5 bbl (I think) then to a 30 BBL and they are now on a 60 bbl.

Those guys are ******** .... fyi

 

[couchsending]

Those guys are ******** .... fyi

What guys?

 

[crusader1612]

What guys?

And why?

 

[gifty74]

So the last 2 times I used 1318 my 1.070 OG beers finished at 1.016 & 1.018. Would really like to get them down to 1.010-1.014 range as there's just a touch more sweetness than I am trying to attain. I've made healthy starters with both. I just made a 1 gal starter with this latest smack pack, and it grew well and has a nice yeast cake in the gallon jar. I'm thinking of pitching a hydrated packet of US-05 about halfway (1.030 or so) into fermentation. My hope is that this would dry it out those last few points. Any thoughts on this approach? Maybe not how in how it would replicate Julius, but more on the general practice given this thread speaks a lot of 1318.

 

[couchsending]

So the last 2 times I used 1318 my 1.070 OG beers finished at 1.016 & 1.018. Would really like to get them down to 1.010-1.014 range as there's just a touch more sweetness than I am trying to attain. I've made healthy starters with both. I just made a 1 gal starter with this latest smack pack, and it grew well and has a nice yeast cake in the gallon jar. I'm thinking of pitching a hydrated packet of US-05 about halfway (1.030 or so) into fermentation. My hope is that this would dry it out those last few points. Any thoughts on this approach? Maybe not how in how it would replicate Julius, but more on the general practice given this thread speaks a lot of 1318.

With 1318 you need to either step mash say 145/154 or aim for a 148/149 Single Infusion to get attenuation that low. It also attenuates more on successive generations (especially when top cropping)

Are you adding all your dry hops during fermentation. It depends on the hop variety and even lot but you can sometimes get a full 1 Plato drop dry hopping after fermentation is compete due to the enzymes in hops.

If you want to add some US05 you could but I would make a starter (not on a stir plate) and pitch at full Krausen (great way to naturally carbonated it to)

 

[gifty74]

So wait until the 1318 is totally finished and flocs out, and then pitch a starter of US-05 at high krausen?

 

[gifty74]

Well, brewed this last Sun, pitched Sun night. On Thurs, when grav was at 1.024, I pitched a healthy 1.5L starter of US-05, which was 24 hrs grown. Should've been rearing and ready to go. Checked grav yesterday and it's seems to be stuck at just 1.020. Really wanted to get this down to 1.014 at least as I can taste the residual sweetness at 1.020. Thought the US-05 would push it down those last few pts, but appears it just couldn't handle that environment and either died off or went right to sleep. It's at 71 deg now, been for the last few days, so warming a bit hasn't helped either. Guess I just need to plan on this 1318 ending at 1.018 and that's that.

 

[isomerization]

Well, brewed this last Sun, pitched Sun night. On Thurs, when grav was at 1.024, I pitched a healthy 1.5L starter of US-05, which was 24 hrs grown. Should've been rearing and ready to go. Checked grav yesterday and it's seems to be stuck at just 1.020. Really wanted to get this down to 1.014 at least as I can taste the residual sweetness at 1.020. Thought the US-05 would push it down those last few pts, but appears it just couldn't handle that environment and either died off or went right to sleep. It's at 71 deg now, been for the last few days, so warming a bit hasn't helped either. Guess I just need to plan on this 1318 ending at 1.018 and that's that.

Did you mash long and low or not?

 

[gifty74]

148-150 for 60 min. Guess next time I’ll go longer. Going to try some amalyse enzyme to try and get it down a few points.

 

[BostonianBrewer]

I can assure you that yall are overthinking this beer!

 

[flintoid]

care to elaborate?

 

[braindead]

+1