Brownalemikie
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Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.
Typical pizzing match.....whose dick is bigger....come on guys. At 63 this conversation is silly. Have a home brew and relax.
Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.
Why is everyone up in arms about this? NB/Midwest. as I understand it, will still maintain their general structure. I'm sure there will be new products available eventually, but I just don't see the huge problem.
It's not like they're going to start selling only kits to make Budweiser, et al. I feel like it could only help in getting new ingredients, products, etc. What am I missing?
Has ownership changed? It's my understanding that the terms of the agreement were not released...
Is Farley still the President and CEO? Yes or No?
What does continuity of officers have to do with ownership of the company? Or are you suggesting that InBev bought only a minority, non-controlling share in NB/Midwest? If that were the case it would certainly change the discussion here (and would make me wonder what the hell InBev's strategy is, since its hard to see how they benefit here if they didn't acquire any control).
But, by all means, gather the pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.
Well, since we don't know the terms of the deal, isn't is a little odd to immediately assume the "worst" (whatever that is).
ZX-Ventures is relatively new, but already highly involved in lots of e-commerce stuff all over the world. Northern Brewer obviously does a lot of its business via e-commerce.
Farley has stated that the "leadership team will remain intact and our company will continue to be independent."
But, by all means, gather the pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.
I'm not "storming" anything. I just wondered if you had some info on InBev's ownership stake/control. The stories I've read report that InBev "acquired" NB, which I think is fair to interpret as purchase of a controlling or majority interest.
Of course it's always possible that NB negotiated a deal where the original owners sold a majority stake to InBev yet retained disproportionate voting rights. Seems unlikely, since you'd imagine InBev would want the right to exercise at least some control over the companies it owns, and NB isn't exactly Google. But if that's the way the deal was structured, I imagine we'll hear all about it directly from NB if they in fact suffer a significant loss of business from customers turned off by the association with InBev.
So, the solution to the AbInbev buyout of NB & MWB is to use someone else and potentially put 100's to "maybe" a 1000+ employees out of work?
T I think this takeover is going to be bad for homebrewing. How bad depends on how homebrewers react.
So, the solution to the AbInbev buyout of NB & MWB is to use someone else and potentially put 100's to "maybe" a 1000+ employees out of work?
Looks like I'll be making the 75 mile drive to Oklahoma City to the LHBS there. The only other option i have is the online retailers and the expensive shipping cost. Home Brew Supply was good while they had grains included in there flat rate shipping. But now its cheaper for me to drive....
What if the new owners were crazy terrorists, hell-bent on your destruction? Would it be wise to buy from them so employees mightn't lose their jobs?I'd not be surprised either. Never said making a purchase was a charity. But choosing to go elsewhere solely on the basis of who's name is on the title does nothing but punish those who are still employed by a domestic enterprise.
It'd make more sense to embargo any new ventures the previous ownership attempts to create.
Do you even know who owns any of these shops on the Internets or your local? The whole NB thing is out there because it was announced, but the ownership status of any other shop/purveyor is completely unknown, including those most people will switch to. So what are you avoiding and where are you going?
Am I the only one who finds this odd?
I love this shop because you can order specialty grains by the ounce, and organized grain bills into recipes. They ship very fast, and I seem to get stuff very quickly, considering that it's coming to me in PA from TX.
There's a forest behind those trees you know.
Isnt he with AHS? Did he mastermind all this to be disruptive?
To me this is more than boycotting Midwest or Northern Brewer this is about the infiltration of a corporate conglomerate getting their fingers into our community. AB InBev buys Northern Brewer today what's next White Labs a grain supplier, hop farms? Sure you're not brewing a rice piss Bud clone but you will be brewing AB InBev and that's what sucks.
InBev doesn't give a crap about the homebrewer they laugh at us and mock us in their commercials and now there in are community and we will never get them out.
but I'd wait this out before condemning anyone. )
Hmm. Depends. Did the incumbent pay taxes while drinking Bud Light?
Do you always compare Palm Trees to Porcupines?
True, not a good comparison, but my point is that if I think the overwhelming majority of consumers aren't concerned with keeping a business' employees employed when making purchasing decisions. If it was more a priority for consumers, then there would be no incentive for the business to do anything other than keep it's employees employed. It sounds nice, but most of the world doesn't work that way.
I'm certainly not surprised to read some of the comments about not using NB anymore now that they'd been bought out by a company that controls a third of the world's beer. I don't completely agree, but I'm not surprised. This is the same group of folks who won't drink Goose Island or Lagunitas anymore.
Clearly anyone can choose to or choose not to patronize a business for whatever reason they want, it just seems like an odd argument to make that a business' employees are the first consideration.
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