Northern Brewer Replacement

[Le_Ace_Club]

I'll agree it has the potential to be bad. I just think it's better to wait on throwing out the baby until you know it's **** the bathwater.

I also agree it has the potential to be bad, as well as the potential to be good or neutral. However, that's not what he said.

 

[bob1852]

I'll agree it has the potential to be bad.

I think we should all just go back to horse draw buggies. That damn disruptive growth strategy known as the automobile is sure to fail...

 

[Ameritoon]

I use txbrewing.com as well as my LHBS.

 

[WaltStarr]

I think we should all just go back to horse draw buggies. That damn disruptive growth strategy known as the automobile is sure to fail...

Now you're making absolutely no sense whatsoever in your arguments. That's not even an analogy to the arguments presented by those who will never do business with NB/Midwestern.

What you are doing is presenting a "straw man" that you built up out of nothing so you could knock it down.

 

[bob1852]

Now you're making absolutely no sense whatsoever in your arguments.

I'm not arguing anything.

I just find it comical the stance you're taking.

 

[WaltStarr]

I'm not arguing anything.

I just find it comical the stance you're taking.

Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.

 

[robh]

I use Homebrew Emporium https://beerbrew.com/
or Beer and Wine Hobby
https://www.beer-wine.com/
Both have a great selection of stuff and pretty reasonable prices.

 

[snaproll]

small correction here I think that store is in Taylor, but you don't have to date your sister to shop there

 

[Decimotox]

Why is everyone up in arms about this? NB/Midwest. as I understand it, will still maintain their general structure. I'm sure there will be new products available eventually, but I just don't see the huge problem.

It's not like they're going to start selling only kits to make Budweiser, et al. I feel like it could only help in getting new ingredients, products, etc. What am I missing?

 

[fbold1]

Southern Home Brew has some great deals as does Label Peelers
.I also have a great local supplier, Home Brew Ohio.

 

[WaltStarr]

Southern Home Brew has some great deals as does Label Peelers
.I also have a great local supplier, Home Brew Ohio.

Having a local shop makes things tons easier.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

Now you're making absolutely no sense whatsoever in your arguments. That's not even an analogy to the arguments presented by those who will never do business with NB/Midwestern.

What you are doing is presenting a "straw man" that you built up out of nothing so you could knock it down.

Not entirely. I'd agree it is unlikely but, this venture does have the potential for marketing innovations in brewing directly to a target demographic.

 

[bob1852]

Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.

I have no stance. PKU.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

small correction here I think that store is in Taylor, but you don't have to date your sister to shop there

But will they still honor the discount code?

 

[WaltStarr]

Not entirely. I'd agree it is unlikely but, this venture does have the potential for marketing innovations in brewing directly to a target demographic.

I see zero chance of any innovation coming out of the deal.

I have no stance. PKU.

You've been railing against people who refuse to do business with NB for several pages now. Of course you have a stance.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

What am I missing?

The middle part.

 

[Whut]

Here you all go.

General Description of Beer: Budweiser Clone Recipe

Batch Size:5 gallon Boil Time:90 minutes
Grains and Malts: lbs:
American 2-row 3
American 6-row 2
American Flaked Rice 2
Hops: oz Addition Time:
Hallertau Hersbrucker 0.5 60 minutes (boil)
Hallertau Hersbrucker 1 5 minutes (boil)
Mashing Schedule:

Step Temperature Step Time
149 90 minutes
175 10 minutes

Mash pH Calculator

Additional Ingredients:

Others: Addition Amount: Addition Timing:
Whirfloc Tablet 1 tablet 10 minutes (boil)
Yeast Nutrient per supplier 10 minutes (boil)
Critical Brewing Targets:
Original Gravity: 1.03
Final Gravity: 1.002

Mash Efficiency: 75%
Alc By Vol Estimate: 4.2%
Color Target (SRM): 2
Carbonation Method (sugar primed or kegged): Kegged
Carbonation Volumes: 3

Carbonation Calculator
Alcohol ABV, ABW, Attentuaion, and Calorie Calculator

Fermenation:
Yeast Brand: White Labs
Yeast Name: American Lager
Yeast #: WLP840
Yeast Starter: Yes
Aeration: Oxygenate 20 seconds with stone

Stage: Temp °F: Days:
Stage 1 53 14
Stage 2 55 14
Stage 3 57 14

Yeast Pitching Rate Calculator
Yeast Strain Database
Comments From the Brewer:
This is a true lager so it will need a starter or more yeast for it to ferment as it should. Stage three of the fermentation is not a transfer to third fermentor, it is only a temperature change. It also wouldnt hurt to chill the batch down to 32F following fermentation for 5 days to settle out the yeast.

And yes, buy the ingredients from either Northwestern or MidWest.

 

[treacheroustexan]

Southern Home Brew has some great deals as does Label Peelers
.I also have a great local supplier, Home Brew Ohio.

HBO is awesome. I don't go there much anymore but usually hit it up when I visit my family in Bellevue.

 

[meltroha]

So looking for opinions in whi will be your online supplier for those no longer using NB. Some people are not lucky enough to have a local shop to visit. Would love to know who the community frequents that is trusted / reliable. Thanks!

thebrewmentor.com

 

[bleme]

Does anyone have any recommendations for where to get 50lb bags of 2 row? Specifically Maris otter... I'm not specifically boycotting norther brewer now, but I'd like to keep my business away from inbev as much as possible.

I don't have a local LHBS but I have 2 local micro-breweries that will sell full bags of grain to local home brewers at cost. Your local homebrew club should have all the connections.

 

[Brownalemikie]

Oddly enough, I find your stance completely comical.

Typical pizzing match.....whose dick is bigger....come on guys. At 63 this conversation is silly. Have a home brew and relax.

 

[fosaisu]

Why is everyone up in arms about this? NB/Midwest. as I understand it, will still maintain their general structure. I'm sure there will be new products available eventually, but I just don't see the huge problem.

It's not like they're going to start selling only kits to make Budweiser, et al. I feel like it could only help in getting new ingredients, products, etc. What am I missing?

It's not plausible that NB/Midwest will immediately start carrying completely different products, lay off all their staff, or divide up their assets and/or move operations elsewhere (though you could ask Rolling Rock fans about that, I suppose).

However, some don't like new corporate owner InBev's business practices and don't wish to support them, even indirectly, by shopping with a business that they own. And some prefer to support "small" or "locally owned" businesses on general principles, without having a specific bone to pick with InBev. Sounds like neither of these are concerns for you, so you can safely carry on shopping with NB/Midwest just as you did before the acquisition!

 

[fosaisu]

Has ownership changed? It's my understanding that the terms of the agreement were not released...

Is Farley still the President and CEO? Yes or No?

What does continuity of officers have to do with ownership of the company? Or are you suggesting that InBev bought only a minority, non-controlling share in NB/Midwest? If that were the case it would certainly change the discussion here (and would make me wonder what the hell InBev's strategy is, since its hard to see how they benefit here if they didn't acquire any control).

 

[bob1852]

What does continuity of officers have to do with ownership of the company? Or are you suggesting that InBev bought only a minority, non-controlling share in NB/Midwest? If that were the case it would certainly change the discussion here (and would make me wonder what the hell InBev's strategy is, since its hard to see how they benefit here if they didn't acquire any control).

Well, since we don't know the terms of the deal, isn't is a little odd to immediately assume the "worst" (whatever that is).

ZX-Ventures is relatively new, but already highly involved in lots of e-commerce stuff all over the world. Northern Brewer obviously does a lot of its business via e-commerce.

Farley has stated that the "leadership team will remain intact and our company will continue to be independent."

But, by all means, gather the pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.

 

[WaltStarr]

But, by all means, gather the pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.

Another strawman.

 

[didimcginty]

Have been very happy with morebeer. I live in philly and am planing on moving to Kentucky soon. And will use morebeer if i can't find a local store.

 

[fosaisu]

Well, since we don't know the terms of the deal, isn't is a little odd to immediately assume the "worst" (whatever that is).

ZX-Ventures is relatively new, but already highly involved in lots of e-commerce stuff all over the world. Northern Brewer obviously does a lot of its business via e-commerce.

Farley has stated that the "leadership team will remain intact and our company will continue to be independent."

But, by all means, gather the pitchforks and torches and storm the castle.

I'm not "storming" anything. I just wondered if you had some info on InBev's ownership stake/control. The stories I've read report that InBev "acquired" NB, which I think is fair to interpret as purchase of a controlling or majority interest.

Of course it's always possible that NB negotiated a deal where the original owners sold a majority stake to InBev yet retained disproportionate voting rights. Seems unlikely, since you'd imagine InBev would want the right to exercise at least some control over the companies it owns, and NB isn't exactly Google. But if that's the way the deal was structured, I imagine we'll hear all about it directly from NB if they in fact suffer a significant loss of business from customers turned off by the association with InBev.

 

[tyraindreams]

I came here for the pitchfork and torch gathering and the castle storming. If that's not what we're doing I'm going back to sleep.

 

[WaltStarr]

I'm not "storming" anything. I just wondered if you had some info on InBev's ownership stake/control. The stories I've read report that InBev "acquired" NB, which I think is fair to interpret as purchase of a controlling or majority interest.

Of course it's always possible that NB negotiated a deal where the original owners sold a majority stake to InBev yet retained disproportionate voting rights. Seems unlikely, since you'd imagine InBev would want the right to exercise at least some control over the companies it owns, and NB isn't exactly Google. But if that's the way the deal was structured, I imagine we'll hear all about it directly from NB if they in fact suffer a significant loss of business from customers turned off by the association with InBev.

This thread got off track. It's really about alternatives to NB/MW as an internet source for homebrew supplies.

 

[Bob750]

So, the solution to the AbInbev buyout of NB & MWB is to use someone else and potentially put 100's to "maybe" a 1000+ employees out of work?

Not likely. There are plenty of people who will still buy there. Plenty of people boycott places like WalMart and Sam's Club for the way they mistreat their employees, but they're not going out of business anytime soon.