Northern Brewer Replacement

[Paps]

Figured i'd say something just to refference all the bookmarks.
But also wanted to contribute.
www.biyhomebrewsupply.com
Run by Joe & his wife.
Joe has "The basics of homebrewing" Youtube series/channel
and is located in Iowa.
His videos are what got me into homebrewing.
Also
https://shop.anuwayhydro.com
Anuway Hydro & Brew
Another shop run by a couple "Jesse & Trinity"
This is my LHBS & while they don't claim to get a lot of online business, i'm sure they would be glad to get it.

 

[popgunandy]

Do you even know who owns any of these shops on the Internets or your local? The whole NB thing is out there because it was announced, but the ownership status of any other shop/purveyor is completely unknown, including those most people will switch to. So what are you avoiding and where are you going?

Am I the only one who finds this odd?

 

[Paps]

Do you even know who owns any of these shops on the Internets or your local??

Yes. I named them.
I've spoken to both Joe and his wife over the phone several times.
Jesse & Trinity are two of the founding members of The Ozark Zymugists
(the local homebrew club in NWA/Benton county Arkansas) and we have shared plenty a brew together.
I can't speak for anyone else though.
The forum sponsors that are vendors have allways done good business in my book as well.

 

[ericbw]

Do you even know who owns any of these shops on the Internets or your local? The whole NB thing is out there because it was announced, but the ownership status of any other shop/purveyor is completely unknown, including those most people will switch to. So what are you avoiding and where are you going?



Am I the only one who finds this odd?

Most of the smaller shops are small. Even Label Peelers that others have mentioned is small (the smallest of the local shops). But your point is true.

 

[Electrake]

Does anyone have any recommendations for where to get 50lb bags of 2 row? Specifically Maris otter... I'm not specifically boycotting norther brewer now, but I'd like to keep my business away from inbev as much as possible.

I know someone recommended a site here, however this thread has grown quite a bit since I last looked. Thanks

 

[WaltStarr]

Do you even know who owns any of these shops on the Internets or your local? The whole NB thing is out there because it was announced, but the ownership status of any other shop/purveyor is completely unknown, including those most people will switch to. So what are you avoiding and where are you going?

Am I the only one who finds this odd?

Publicly held companies must report all business holdings.

It's the law.

So, not knowing the names of the people owning these compaies proves one thing.

They are privately held (Accurate phrase for "Mom and Pop).

Ergo, Neither AB InBev (publicly traded company), any of its subsidiaries, nor any of the other massive beer conglomerates owns any of these companies.

 

[ericbw]

Publicly held companies must report all business holdings.



It's the law.



So, not knowing the names of the people owning these compaies proves one thing.



They are privately held (Accurate phrase for "Mom and Pop).



Ergo, Neither AB InBev (publicly traded company), any of its subsidiaries, nor any of the other massive beer conglomerates owns any of these companies.

Or not knowing the name of the owner means you didn't ask. I don't know who owns Coca Cola for instance.

 

[WaltStarr]

Or not knowing the name of the owner means you didn't ask. I don't know who owns Coca Cola for instance.

Coca Cola is a publicly traded company, so literally thousands of people "own" it as literally thousands of people hold shares of Coca Cola common stock.

https://www.google.com/finance?cid=6550

If you go through the PUBLIC filings, you will find that the Coca Cola Corporation literally owns dozens of other companies, including Coca Cola Bottling.

Everything about publicly traded companies must be reported.

It's.
The.
Law.

 

[PGEduardo]

Sub'd for links! Great info here...

 

[Maylar]

Is there another source for Big Mouth Bubblers? I think my LHBS handles Better Bottle, but not the big mouth.

 

[ncbrewer]

Williams brewing has their own version of the big mouth bubbler.

 

[ericbw]

Coca Cola is a publicly traded company, so literally thousands of people "own" it as literally thousands of people hold shares of Coca Cola common stock.



https://www.google.com/finance?cid=6550



If you go through the PUBLIC filings, you will find that the Coca Cola Corporation literally owns dozens of other companies, including Coca Cola Bottling.



Everything about publicly traded companies must be reported.



It's.

The.

Law.

Indeed. But I didn't look to see who owns it. You said not knowing only "means one thing:" that their privately held. It can also mean that I didn't check to see who owns it. (Coca Cola wasn't really fair because I know its publicly traded.)

You're talking about being able to know. I'm talking about the logic of your statement at face value.

It.
Was.
Supposed.
To.
Be.
Funny.

 

[JDXX1971]

Yes. Americans complain about big business screwing the small guy. If AB-InBev isn't the poster-child for big business in the Beer industry, I don't know who is. It's time for American consumers to put up of shut up about the evils of corporate greed and "disruptive", some may say dishonest, business practices.

Unlikely.

Whats gonna work???????????Team work.........................

Oh man it's killing me.

Your right though.

 

[WaltStarr]

Indeed. But I didn't look to see who owns it. You said not knowing only "means one thing:" that their privately held. It can also mean that I didn't check to see who owns it. (Coca Cola wasn't really fair because I know its publicly traded.)

You're talking about being able to know. I'm talking about the logic of your statement at face value.

It.
Was.
Supposed.
To.
Be.
Funny.

I cannot be held accountable for your failure to avail yourself of public knowledge.

 

[curtisbrewer]

morebeer is great , having two warehouses is awesome. especially the one in pa considering i am in ma. you should find another source seeing as nb sold out to a disruptive growth firm ran by INBEV. its sad , they were good companies...

 

[WaltStarr]

morebeer is great , having two warehouses is awesome. especially the one in pa considering i am in ma. you should find another source seeing as nb sold out to a disruptive growth firm ran by INBEV. its sad , they were good companies...

Yeah, I think Morebeer is going to take the crown as primary internet homebrew source.

 

[treacheroustexan]

Chiming in to say morebeer is incredibleeee.

 

[bob1852]

Yeah, I think Morebeer is going to take the crown as primary internet homebrew source.

Chiming in to say morebeer is incredibleeee.

Safe to say, we know who their disruptive marketing strategy will target...

 

[treacheroustexan]

Safe to sayou, we know who their disruptive marketing strategy will target...

I'd also like to say I will still order from Northern brewer. I still order from Morebeer. I still buy from my LHBS.

I like morebeer because I get everything next day for cheap since I'm in Ohio and it ships from their PA warehouse. Northern brewer takes longer but I like the fast pitch and some of their recipes. And I shop equally as much at my LHBS for recipes I come up with on my own, cleaning products, and all of my yeast.

 

[dallasdb]

I don't do business with AB Inbev.

Period.

I respect the conviction, but why do you take such a hard line?

 

[dallasdb]

Publicly held companies must report all business holdings.

It's the law.

What law is that?

What SEC form requires them to report business holdings?

I have clients who have org charts 5 pages long printed on 11x17 with arrows going every direction. It's insane... and yes they are public and NO an outsider could not figure out all of their business holdings without insider information.

 

[WaltStarr]

I respect the conviction, but why do you take such a hard line?

I don't do business with any company whose business practices I disagree with.

I don't do business with Walmart and Home Depot, too.

 

[bob1852]

I don't do business with any company whose business practices I disagree with.

I don't do business with Walmart and Home Depot, too.

Who do you do business with? My guess is you'd have problems with business practices of any business.

 

[dallasdb]

I don't do business with any company whose business practices I disagree with.

I don't do business with Walmart and Home Depot, too.

What's wrong with Home Depot?!?!?

You should read the book "Built from Scratch" and you might change your mind about HD.

They treat their employees really well. What other employer has tuition assistance for part-time employees?

 

[ericbw]

I don't do business with any company whose business practices I disagree with.

I don't do business with Walmart and Home Depot, too.

I'm curious to know how you determine who you will or won't do business with. Because it sounds like there is a lot of resentment towards big businesses, but sometimes they do the right things, too.

I'm not talking about you in particular, but you see the trend in this thread - NB is now dark side because they are owned by AB/InBev. Walmart is bad. HD is bad.

Meanwhile, smaller businesses are good. Usually what qualifies as "good" (on this thread) is, in random order:

1) good customer service
2) lower prices than competitors, even if it's higher than NB, etc.
3) cheap shipping
4) not owned by InBev

I think fair treatment of employees, good environmental practices, and (as much as possible) delivering American-made options are also part of what makes a business "good." That can be in a big or small company.

 

[WaltStarr]

have problems with business practices of any business.[/QUOTE]

I do business with lots of companies. My list of companies I refuse to do business with is actually qyite small.

What's wrong with Home Depot?!?!?

You should read the book "Built from Scratch" and you might change your mind about HD.

They treat their employees really well. What other employer has tuition assistance for part-time employees?

Politics, mostly. I do not spend money with an organization with a CEO who is so far out there and who consistently uses the company to promote his personal political leanings. That's bad business.

 

[bob1852]

Politics. I do not spend money with an organization with a CEO who is so far out there.

Do you invest in mutual funds? If so, you're probably holding some HD stock...

 

[WaltStarr]

Do you invest in mutual funds? If so, you're probably holding some HD stock...

Yes.

And no. I research all or my investments thoroughly. No HD stock at all.

 

[Brownalemikie]

We're all in this together....just because Inbev bought NB doesn't mean that Americans aren't still employed by NB. As long as their product, prices and service remain reasonable I'll continue buying their products.

However, the above becomes moot if NB moves their entity overseas. JMHO

 

[jcav]

If you have not seen it, a nice write up on the buyout from a homebrew shop owner (love2brew).

http://brulosophy.com/2016/10/20/th...e-acquisition-of-northern-brewer-by-ab-inbev/

Good article, thanks for posting!

John