- Aug 21, 2017
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Example:What about that is specifically objectionable to you exactly? I passed college level stats and don’t find their analysis generally incorrect?
I do not know what it is made of but if you heat up the gelatin in a covered jar then take a whiff, it sure smells like a dairy farm.Note that gelatin is neither from horses (normally pigs/cows), nor hooves. Hooves make keratin, not gelatin. Gelatin is what you get when you boil the skin and bones.
I guess if you're vegan, or bound to reinheitsgebot, gelatin is out. I'm none of those
Just wanted to add to what @VikeMan said...What about that is specifically objectionable to you exactly? I passed college level stats and don’t find their analysis generally incorrect?
Isn’t the point of the way Brülosophy states their findings have to do with random chance vs the significance of the number of correct selections the triangle test?Example:
"While 15 tasters (p<0.05) would have had to identify the unique sample in order to reach statistical significance, only 13 (p=0.10) made the accurate selection, indicating participants in this xBmt could not reliably distinguish an IPA made with a 7.4 oz/209.4 g dry hop charge from one made with an 11 oz/311.8 g dry hop charge."
Note that 13 tasters accurately selected the different sample, and that p=0.10.
This means that if there were no detectable difference between the beers, there was only a 10% chance that 13 or more tasters would get it right. But they did. To translate that into "indicating participants in this xBmt could not reliably distinguish" is misleading as hell. Anyone reading those words and not thoroughly familiar with triangle testing and p values would be very likely to think "the results show that there's no difference." I can't even count the number of times I've seen forum posters quote results like that as "proof" that Brulosophy debunked something.
My issue is the misleading words. If they were to add this one note prominently, I wouldn't object:Isn’t the point of the way Brülosophy states their findings have to do with random chance vs the significance of the number of correct selections the triangle test?
If their threshold for “reliable” were lower as you are stating them the chance that those selections were equal to random chance would be increased so much as to make the comparison meaningless.
I bought some water treatment and finings secondhand from a brewer getting out of the hobby last year sometime and a bottle of gelatin was included. I only bottle, so I haven't bothered looking into using it much, but I'm usually a little jealous when I see the results with it. But with that being said, most of my beers are clear at packaging, then haze up in the fridge for a week or so, then drop pretty darn clear again. I use it as a reminder to be patientOk, so maybe I'll just keep avoiding gelatin and stick with the 30 day lagering scheme
I can agree there-that is a more thorough and accurate explanation-but these days with the dumbing down of the masses a simpler and more concise explanation as they typically give is usually more digestible to the masses.My issue is the misleading words. If they were to add this one note prominently, I wouldn't object:
"It should be noted that if there were no difference, on average we would expect 9 or 10 of the tasters to make the correct selection. But 13 (or more) did, which if there were no difference, was only 10% likely to happen."
I probably haven’t been around long enough to find them-then Agni don’t go looking for them either.My vote...there are enough threads dedicated to hate on Brulosophy that it just detracts from useful threads like this to keep hashing it out over and over.
Yep, you're either on the bus, off the bus, or going, wait, why the he are these guys talking about bus routes?Except it's all horribly off topic. In that respect, better to say nothing than to blather on and on, feeding the thing. Sadly decorum in all respects left with Elvis.
Very cool, hope it works out.[...]my dad's 70th birthday is coming up and Andech's is his favorite beer...was hoping this would be somewhat similar (at least to a non-beer nerd).
Has he ever been to the monastery? I'd have loved to have taken my dad there. My wife and I took our oldest son (who was doing his junior year in London) there for dinner and a hella lot of beer (the mugs are HUGE!) and it was an experience I'll never forget...
... And here I am, with Kloster Andechs less than an hour away, and I think I've only been once or twice... ^^Yeah! We went when I was 16 and I got ein Großes Bier und eine Schweinehackse...probably mispelled that, but it was amazing!