http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7907731http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7907731[
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...med/7907731QUOTE=RoughandReadyRanch;6257002]I think when it comes to celiacs most folks are not in that one percent. Most of my nutrition classes have pretty much summed up gluten free as a marketing hype targeting people who most often either are misdiagnosed or have some other underlying issue that is playing a factor. My mother in law would fall into the other category. She likely has IBS or something of the sort and mixes that with eating like crap a'la winco/walmart bakery and blames her woes on celiacs though a recent trip out of country yielded no such results when eating artisan baked goods. From what I do know though if you have celiacs then drinking beer is probably the last thing you would really need in your diet. Interesting to here about the take on clarity ferm but do you have any articles, studies to back that claim as they have already signed of on it in Oregon as gluten free and that would be a huge liability if what you were saying was in fact true. Nut trying to be a dick here but I am hearing from a leading brewing scientist ( Dr. Bamforth UCD) that it is in fact for all inclusive purposes showing clean. Obviously I could personally care less I am not in the one percent so I have taken it at face value but if you have data that shows otherwise I would love to see it as I was planning to start using C.F. for beers for a friend of mine to see how they treated him. Thanks.
I will try to summ up my logic here.
To start with, I am a real celiac (diagnised 11 years ago, before I had ever heard of "gluten free").
I stated that celiac desease can be trigered by small fragments of protein...below is a link to a paper showing protein fragments 18 peptides long trigering immune response in patients with celiac(you will have to look up the paper...posting a link from this tablet does not seem to be working).
Lancet.*1994 Mar 26;343(8900):758-61.
Wheat peptide challenge in coeliac disease.
I also stated that clarity ferm is a protease that just shears up the proteins that induce the immune response in celiacs.
Below is the description of clarity ferm coppied directly from whitelabs website...
WLN4000 CLARITY FERM
"CLARITY-FERM is a product containing a highly specific endo-protease which only cleaves polypeptides at the carboxyl end of the amino acid proline.* Protease is derived from*Aspergillus niger"
The current elisa tests used to validate gluten free claims are not capable of detdcting reactive gluten fragments in foods in whitch the protein has been hydrolized (like beer). So you should expect any clarity ferm treeted beer to "pass" the elisa test with flying colors...you should also expect it to ilicit an immune response in people with celiac desease. Have a look at tge link below for information on the elisa tests used to detect gluten.
http://mobile.beveragedaily.com/Reg...s-such-as-beer-researcher-claims#.U8svvmZlDMI
So I have provided a bit of evedence to support a few of my statements above...but the most compelling evedence for me is the cramping and diarrhea followed by 3 weeks of joint pain (this is my typical gluten response) that follow drinking beer treeted with clarity ferm...I know several others that have similar issues with clarity ferm treeted beer.[/QUOTE]
Very interesting. I will check those out. On the bright side, You can say your part of the 1%!
Probably not the 1% you would want to be in but all the same
I will look into these this tomorrow. I am always interested in this type of stuff seeing as it is nutrition issue and all.