Make IPA Clear Again

[Qhrumphf]

I assume if I see "ddh" it's gonna be nouveau hazy unless something says otherwise. Obviously multiple dry hops aren't new or limited to hazy (Pliny anyone?) but that specific term seems to be common amongst hazy marketing.

 

[Nagorg]

That label suffers from an identity crisis in the first place....

New and Orthodox, American Pale Ale and India Pale Ale Series... And seriously, Double Dry Hopping should not make your beer look like OJ. But not that is a tell tale sign that you will get a glass of murk. SMH..

 

[Blazinlow86]

That label suffers from an identity crisis in the first place....

New and Orthodox, American Pale Ale and India Pale Ale Series... And seriously, Double Dry Hopping should not make your beer look like OJ. But not that is a tell tale sign that you will get a glass of murk. SMH..

As a person that buys and drinks new style ipas frequently there's nothing on that can that's confusing. It's clearly a new style ipa. I can see however that if your not up to speed with the current ipas it might not be as obvious. Cheers

 

[day_trippr]

toasty!

 

[SteveH aka shetc]

Mmmmm, juicy

 

[Nagorg]

I can see however that if your not up to speed with the current ipas it might not be as obvious.

I guess we'll have to start consulting you since you are so much more up to speed on things.. Dude(I think...), seriously? Thats the thing, we (folks that prefer clear beer) are leary of new stuff now because of this craziness... You cant trust the label anymore. Which stinks cause we really like trying new stuff but are disappointed when a glass of murk is the "new thing". Maybe we'd be better off leaving in it the can...

 

[Blazinlow86]

I guess we'll have to start consulting you since you are so much more up to speed on things.. Dude(I think...), seriously? Thats the thing, we (folks that prefer clear beer) are leary of new stuff now because of this craziness... You cant trust the label anymore. Which stinks cause we really like trying new stuff but are disappointed when a glass of murk is the "new thing". Maybe we'd be better off leaving in it the can...

Or if you cannot get ahold of me just read the can. It says "haze is good" right on it. If you feel that's a identity crisis I can see why your having so much trouble finding a old style ipa. Cheers

 

[Qhrumphf]

Or if you cannot get ahold of me just read the can. The can says "haze is good" right on it. If you feel that's a identity crisis I can see why your having so much trouble finding a old style ipa however. Cheers

I actually missed that part. Yeah, that's pretty blatant. But it's easy to miss from the posted pic. Poster shoulda seen that though.

 

[Chris-Naz]

Hey CascadesBrewer and Blazinlow - this is where my head goes when I see simcoe and Amarillo on a can. I haven’t had a NEIPA with that combo...
Cheers

 

[Nagorg]

Hey CascadesBrewer and Blazinlow - this is where my head goes when I see simcoe and Amarillo on a can. I haven’t had a NEIPA with that combo...
Cheers
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Looks Delicious! Cant say that about those murky looking concoctions... That is unless I'm having breakfast and needing something to wash down my eggs and bacon with.

 

[CascadesBrewer]

American Pale Ale
Appearance
Pale golden to light amber. Moderately large white to off-white head with good retention. Generally quite clear, although dry-hopped versions may be slightly hazy.

 

[Broothru]

Are you referring to "The New IPA"? It was published in May 2019.

When I researched the link on Amazon it showed the publishing date as 2016. Must have been a link to an earlier edition.

Brooo Brother

 

[snarf7]

Looks Delicious! Cant say that about those murky looking concoctions... That is unless I'm having breakfast and needing something to wash down my eggs and bacon with.

So a little haze is OK then? Cause that one doesn't look crystal clear to me...whats the cutoff point where it becomes OJ?

 

[Nagorg]

So a little haze is OK then? Cause that one doesn't look crystal clear to me...whats the cutoff point where it becomes OJ?

 

[VirginiaHops1]

If you're buying a beer you haven't ever had and know nothing about and the idea of a really hazy beer scares you look it up on Untappd. I don't see what the big deal is. I like both styles. When done right the hazy/borderline murky beers are fantastic. I just had a King Sue the other day. Top tier elite. I also like a traditional bitter IPA or palate wrecking imperial and often times even a pilsner. Variety is awesome. There are plenty of bad NEIPAs out there but guess what I've also had a ton of sh!tty American IPAs.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

How about skip the IPA trend altogether and cheers to clear, classic German Lagers!

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

see https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/make-ipa-clear-again.663927/page-15#post-8642362

 

[Nagorg]

How about skip the IPA trend altogether and cheers to clear, classic German Lagers!

SWEET... Lets make those murky and we'll be rich! Cause Murk is in these days!

 

[VirginiaHops1]

When I researched the link on Amazon it showed the publishing date as 2016. Must have been a link to an earlier edition.

Brooo Brother

Amazon's listing is inaccurate. There isn't an earlier edition. This is Janish's first book. I haven't read it yet but his blog was great and his new brewery is putting out some great stuff, so I'm sure there's some awesome info in there

 

[Chris-Naz]

SWEET... Lets make those murky and we'll be rich! Cause Murk is in these days!

Here’s one for you: Ferk the murk! Haha.

I’m actually a fan of beer (all of it) as long as it’s well-made. I am missing the non-hazy ipas but find that some of the hazy ipas clear over time and sometimes that’s a good thing (depending on the brew). This thread cracks me up - thanks all.

 

[Cavpilot2000]

Here’s one for you: Ferk the murk! Haha.

I’m actually a fan of beer (all of it) as long as it’s well-made. I am missing the non-hazy ipas but find that some of the hazy ipas clear over time and sometimes that’s a good thing (depending on the brew). This thread cracks me up - thanks all.

Me too, actually.
I brew about 70% lagers, but I drink all beer if it’s good (I can live without most Belgians and sours though).

 

[snarf7]

Me too, actually.
I brew about 70% lagers, but I drink all beer if it’s good (I can live without most Belgians and sours though).

You must hate the super hazy ones then

I personally don't care what it looks like if it tastes delicious but I will concede that there is something quite satisfying when you brew a lager and get it to drop crystal clear and sparkling

 

[Cavpilot2000]

You must hate the super hazy ones then

I personally don't care what it looks like if it tastes delicious but I will concede that there is something quite satisfying when you brew a lager and get it to drop crystal clear and sparkling

Actually I love a good NEIPA too.
Unfortunately, IMHO, 90+% of hazy, murky NE-style IPAs being sold these days are either not good, or completely unremarkable.
I try a lot of them, and most are just...meh.

I'm not usually a stickler for clarity in beer other than lagers - to the point I don't use any fining agents post-boil, because I don't care so long as it tastes good.
In fact, I think gelatin fining, etc, is kind of a cheat. It's a band-aid for sloppy technique. If you want your beer to be clear, good technique and a conditioning rest should do that. BUt that's just my wacky way of seeing things. To each his own.

I clarify my lagers with a proper lagering rest of 4-8 weeks, but the APA I have on tap now is still cloudy because it's only 2 weeks old.
It will clear over time too, but I couldn't care less if it is a little cloudy. I'm not going to artificially clarify it with additives.

 

[Chris-Naz]

 

[Schlenkerla]

Subbed...

 

[Schlenkerla]

At the risk of backlash, yes I'm posting this! Am I the only one (or one of a few) that isnt on board with the Haze Craze?

I might be open minded to the "style" if it weren't for the association with IPA... Other than the large qty's of hops used, I dont think these beers are characteristic of IPA at all. Personally, the lack of clarity is off-putting and I believe its damaged what a lot of folks think beers should look like. For example, now you can be served a glass of yeast and nobody thinks there is anything wrong with the pour!

I'll admit that I have tasted some that were pretty tasty and had a good aroma but still... IPA?? Really??? Can we just not have a "Hazy Ale" category instead of bastardizing IPA?

MIPACA.... I need to make some hats!

I'm getting to be like that old man that said get off my lawn.

I like the classics and have started to dislike the really weird obscure beers. I don't have an issues with NEIPA. I'm more bothered by breweries passing off what's considered normal beers with haze. The advent of hazy beers outside of hefeweizen has made parts of the industry lazy.

My local watering hole told me clarity is not longer a requirement with beer now. It's like you gotta accept it. Just like politics and political correctness and other social matters.

To me my local place is like a couple that got married, went out and did things, socialized with friends regularly, made great classic beers, then the NEIPA came around (code word for kids) and now they are letting themselves go, getting fat, not grooming or bathing regularly, being a recluse, showing signs of depression and making hazy beer.

 

[balrog]

you forgot, "and never having sex anymore"

But I'm not really sure how that morphs into the metaphor.
Or simile.
I can never keep those straight.

 

[Schlenkerla]

you forgot, "and never having sex anymore"

But I'm not really sure how that morphs into the metaphor.
Or simile.
I can never keep those straight.

It works, you got the general idea.

 

[couchsending]

Two hoppy beers for the state comp. Lagered em both for 2 weeks at 30. They were better before they were clear....

Mosaic 3 ways IPA (T-90, Leaf, Cryo)
Strata/GP Smash APA

 

[day_trippr]

Ok, so we're back to "Make IPAs Hazy Again!"

 

[CascadesBrewer]

The only thing worse than a muddy IPA...is a crystal clear IPA...that is actually a Cider. India Pressed Apple?!?! https://boldrock.com/ciders/ipa/

 

[day_trippr]

Oh my. That's gonna rattle some cockles

 

[couchsending]

Shacksbury did a colab with Modern Times that was an Amarillo dry hopped cider called Ping Pong. I think they still make it actually. I’ve really enjoyed the ones I’ve had. I’ve also had some really old cans and the hop character had not faded at all which was interesting.

 

[Nagorg]

I've started to appreciate the "Hazy IPA" but not in the way you might think at first. I appreciate it for making me drink other styles of beer. Its rare to find a good (new) IPA on tap since the mucky ones have invaded. So I just choose other styles instead.

 

[Jbuckley1996]

I assume if I see "ddh" it's gonna be nouveau hazy unless something says otherwise. Obviously multiple dry hops aren't new or limited to hazy (Pliny anyone?) but that specific term seems to be common amongst hazy marketing.

Yeah amen brother. Let me be clear here. Dump the haze!

 

[bkboiler]

I would love the slight haze I would get when I'd dry hop the IPAs I used to brew (more malty beers now)
I could taste the difference between that and a chill/protein haze though (which happened to me several times...especially as I experimented with finings to keep hop character around)
And a lot of the NEIPAs I taste commercially lately how have no malt backbone and taste watery and vegetal...
Lets face it...when a lot of examples of a style are bad, it may not mean it's a bad style, just a very *difficult* one

 

[moreb33rplz]

I was on the fence but Nagorg's hilarious old man style rants have made me decide to never drink anything other than trendy hazy IPA from this day forth.

 

[Nagorg]

I was on the fence but Nagorg's hilarious old man style rants have made me decide to never drink anything other than trendy hazy IPA from this day forth.

Good... Please drink it all up and stop the madness!

 

[Blazinlow86]

This one's hella juicy. Cheers

 

[Schlenkerla]

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