Lambic Discussion Thread

[Fahmie25]

I love mine and use it often. Of course that BiaB pricing got me like

Yeah I should probably use it more. But I do have it out on display cause it is ****** gorgeous.

 

[Gaseous Clay]

This bottle of 2011 Golden Blend opened with a nice pop. The carb in the picture is from about 5 minutes after pouring, but it's very soft. Lots of damp wood or forest, like wet fallen leaves after a rain. More bitterness than expected and deep basement funk. Not too much citrus, what's there is muted. Fantastic bottle.

How’d the cork look?

I had a Shelton Distro 2011 GB recently that was high in carb and tasting as great as ccbstl described. The cork was in good condition as well. The bottle was kept in reverse horizontal suspension in a vantablack painted room so maybe that helped.

 

[RyanG1]

I had a Shelton Distro 2011 GB recently that was high in carb and tasting as great as ccbstl described. The cork was in good condition as well. The bottle was kept in reverse horizontal suspension in a vantablack painted room so maybe that helped.

We need to party

 

[ccbstl]

I had a Shelton Distro 2011 GB recently that was high in carb and tasting as great as ccbstl described. The cork was in good condition as well. The bottle was kept in reverse horizontal suspension in a vantablack painted room so maybe that helped.

Mine was stored in the upside down. I think that helped.

 

[waltersrj]

Questions about 3F shipping beers back to the US for you (for those who've done it):
1. 3F facilitates the shipment via Etre? Is this correct?
2. Does 3F have styro 12 bottle shippers for sale on site or do you have to get these elsewhere?
3. If you do have to purchase the styro shippers elsewhere, where have you purchased them nearby?
4. What kind of cost am I looking at for West Coast? I assume like $150-$200?
5. My plan is to purchase probably 6 bottles or so at Cantillon at 6 at 3F. Will they ship both? Will they care?

Thanks all. I'm leaving to Europe on the 25th. Sadly missed out on Quintessence tickets but I'll be there the weekend afterwards so hopefully the town will have calmed down by then. If you are going to Quintessence, please don't purchase ALL of the Vig/Lam you bastards.

Love Ryan. Seriously thanks for any help. Last time I drug a padded wine shipper full of lambic around Europe between flights and train rides and hated myself. My wife gladly pointed out that I looked like a moron. I'm all grown up and ready to pay for shipping home lol.

 

[trio2shine1]

Questions about 3F shipping beers back to the US for you (for those who've done it):
1. 3F facilitates the shipment via Etre? Is this correct?
2. Does 3F have styro 12 bottle shippers for sale on site or do you have to get these elsewhere?
3. If you do have to purchase the styro shippers elsewhere, where have you purchased them nearby?
4. What kind of cost am I looking at for West Coast? I assume like $150-$200?
5. My plan is to purchase probably 6 bottles or so at Cantillon at 6 at 3F. Will they ship both? Will they care?

Thanks all. I'm leaving to Europe on the 25th. Sadly missed out on Quintessence tickets but I'll be there the weekend afterwards so hopefully the town will have calmed down by then. If you are going to Quintessence, please don't purchase ALL of the Vig/Lam you bastards.

Love Ryan. Seriously thanks for any help. Last time I drug a padded wine shipper full of lambic around Europe between flights and train rides and hated myself. My wife gladly pointed out that I looked like a moron. I'm all grown up and ready to pay for shipping home lol.

I'll let more experienced folks answer 1-4. For #5 I did confirm with 3F that 2/3 of your bottles have to be 3F. Curious to hear answers to 1-4 as I'm planning on doing the same.

 

[waltersrj]

I'll let more experienced folks answer 1-4. For #5 I did confirm with 3F that 2/3 of your bottles have to be 3F. Curious to hear answers to 1-4 as I'm planning on doing the same.

Thank you sir! That’s easy to do.

 

[Dbijnagte]

Questions about 3F shipping beers back to the US for you (for those who've done it):
1. 3F facilitates the shipment via Etre? Is this correct?
2. Does 3F have styro 12 bottle shippers for sale on site or do you have to get these elsewhere?
3. If you do have to purchase the styro shippers elsewhere, where have you purchased them nearby?
4. What kind of cost am I looking at for West Coast? I assume like $150-$200?
5. My plan is to purchase probably 6 bottles or so at Cantillon at 6 at 3F. Will they ship both? Will they care?

Thanks all. I'm leaving to Europe on the 25th. Sadly missed out on Quintessence tickets but I'll be there the weekend afterwards so hopefully the town will have calmed down by then. If you are going to Quintessence, please don't purchase ALL of the Vig/Lam you bastards.

Love Ryan. Seriously thanks for any help. Last time I drug a padded wine shipper full of lambic around Europe between flights and train rides and hated myself. My wife gladly pointed out that I looked like a moron. I'm all grown up and ready to pay for shipping home lol.

1. Etre or BIAB, dealers choice l. There are detailed sheets at 3F that give a break down.
2. No they don’t
3. Nowhere that I know of. Etre and BIAB provide packing materials for you. If you need your own cantillon may have 3 bottle shippers. Or possibly the shop down the block from cantillon
4. 30kg (18 750s or 33 375s) is 145€ from BIAB via 3F or 100€ directly from BIAB.
5 I’ve heard mixed results on this.

 

[waltersrj]

It sounds like #3 is the item I need to figure out. There’s gotta be somewhere in Brussels or nearby Drie to get a 12 shipper...

 

[GregorySingh]

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It sounds like #3 is the item I need to figure out. There’s gotta be somewhere in Brussels or nearby Drie to get a 12 shipper...

you don’t have to purchase any packing materials if you leave your beer with 3F to ship via BIAB/Etre. They’ll pack your beers in the styrofoam pool noodles....100% sucka free

 

[tylerk88]

Someone took photos of the handout from 3F that details the shipping process, but I can't seem to find it. I think that it was in the Belgium Travel thread.

I used BIAB to ship from 3F, and I also dropped off a ton of beer w/ Kurt in Antwerp to have him ship along w/ the stuff I purchased (and left) at 3F. It wasn't cheap, but everything arrived safely and relatively quickly.

Next time I'll probably either buy less or fly w/ an airline that will allow for an extra piece of checked luggage. Probably the latter.

 

[sherm10161]

Is shipping beer home more efficient than putting it in your checked luggage (intra-Europe transport aside)? Or is this in addition to?

I'll be in Europe (including Brussels) this summer, and was just planning to check the beer I want to bring home. My wife and I are allowed 2 checked bags each, so I would have that would be more than enough room for some nice souvenir beers. We only have two train rides after Brussels, so while hauling intra-Europe will be a pain, it will be limited.

 

[trio2shine1]

Is shipping beer home more efficient than putting it in your checked luggage (intra-Europe transport aside)? Or is this in addition to?

I'll be in Europe (including Brussels) this summer, and was just planning to check the beer I want to bring home. My wife and I are allowed 2 checked bags each, so I would have that would be more than enough room for some nice souvenir beers. We only have two train rides after Brussels, so while hauling intra-Europe will be a pain, it will be limited.

For me personally it's in addition to.

 

[tylerk88]

Is shipping beer home more efficient than putting it in your checked luggage (intra-Europe transport aside)? Or is this in addition to?

I'll be in Europe (including Brussels) this summer, and was just planning to check the beer I want to bring home. My wife and I are allowed 2 checked bags each, so I would have that would be more than enough room for some nice souvenir beers. We only have two train rides after Brussels, so while hauling intra-Europe will be a pain, it will be limited.

If you're allowed 2 checked bags each, I can't imagine that shipping would be more efficient. You can get like 10 750s in your luggage before getting near the ~50lb limit, I believe. I brought these with me and they were very helpful: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0741X2T3X/?tag=talkbecom09-20

 

[waltersrj]

Is shipping beer home more efficient than putting it in your checked luggage (intra-Europe transport aside)? Or is this in addition to?

I'll be in Europe (including Brussels) this summer, and was just planning to check the beer I want to bring home. My wife and I are allowed 2 checked bags each, so I would have that would be more than enough room for some nice souvenir beers. We only have two train rides after Brussels, so while hauling intra-Europe will be a pain, it will be limited.

For me it was just a pain in the ass bringing extra luggage full of beer everywhere. We have even more travel this time as we will be gone for a month. I’ll just leave the beers with 3F to ship for me. That’s just awesome.

Thanks GregorySingh

 

[JohnnyBags]

If you're allowed 2 checked bags each, I can't imagine that shipping would be more efficient. You can get like 10 750s in your luggage before getting near the ~50lb limit, I believe. I brought these with me and they were very helpful: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0741X2T3X/?tag=talkbecom09-20

Obviously not as convenient but I've found that most hotel front desks have a scale on hand, in case you don't feel like buying one yourself.

 

[sherm10161]

Also, our checked bags can be up to 32 kg / 70 lb.

BIDNISS CLASS 4 LYFE YO.

 

[nathanmiller]

Also, our checked bags can be up to 32 kg / 70 lb.

BIDNISS CLASS 4 LYFE YO.

And you can do THREE bags each.

 

[sherm10161]

And you can do THREE bags each.

We're flying KLM back to the US, and they only allow 2 checked bags in business class up to 32 kg / 70.5 lb each.

 

[Gaseous Clay]

Is shipping beer home more efficient than putting it in your checked luggage (intra-Europe transport aside)? Or is this in addition to?

I'll be in Europe (including Brussels) this summer, and was just planning to check the beer I want to bring home. My wife and I are allowed 2 checked bags each, so I would have that would be more than enough room for some nice souvenir beers. We only have two train rides after Brussels, so while hauling intra-Europe will be a pain, it will be limited.

Highly recommend checking the lazenne shipper as one of your checked bags if you have the ability to do so. Its a safe and easy way to get back the bottles you want to be sure get to you safely and without possibility of being confiscated/sent back by customs. I checked the bag with 12 750's inside and it was within weight limits and got back to the states no problem. From your post its not clear if you are already using up both checked bags; I did not read back to the last page so I may have missed some info here.

Shipping from within Belgium can be a pain unless you utilize existing services such as Etre and BiaB. If you want to send back through bpost you will need to locate all off the packing material yourself, which if youre accustomed to styo shippers, will be a pain as theyre not easy to come by from my experience.

 

[jivex5k1]

So a brewery in Colorado is going to sell boxed lambics.

 

[Compton25]

 

[wuntrikpony]

So a brewery in Colorado is going to sell boxed lambics.

So their site says

Primitive Beer is Colorado's first exclusively spontaneous, barrel-fermented beer blendery.

Isn’t that what Black Project is doing?

 

[Jspriest]

So their site says

Isn’t that what Black Project is doing?

No, certainly not. That's what years of Black Project's ad copy/marketing might lead a casual consumer to believe, however.

 

[wuntrikpony]

No, certainly not. That's what years of Black Project's ad copy/marketing might lead a casual consumer to believe, however.

So...what is Black Project actually doing?

Wait...did you just call me a casual consumer?

 

[Jspriest]

So...what is Black Project actually doing?

Wait...did you just call me a casual consumer?

(In addition to an unknown fraction of spontaneously fermented beer) they produce beers through an un- or ill-defined solera system, use "coolship caught microbes" which are subsequently propped-up/cultured one way or another. "Wild isolated yeasts." Things of that nature.

So, if in reading those things, you think "yep, that checks out, that's all spontaneous fermentation" then, and I'm really sorry to have to be the one to tell you this: you might be a casual consumer.

 

[wuntrikpony]

(In addition to an unknown fraction of spontaneously fermented beer) they produce beers through an un- or ill-defined solera system, use "coolship caught microbes" which are subsequently propped-up/cultured one way or another. "Wild isolated yeasts." Things of that nature.

So, if in reading those things, you think "yep, that checks out, that's all spontaneous fermentation" then, and I'm really sorry to have to be the one to tell you this: you might be a casual consumer.

nm just realized what thread this was...

 

[andrewdrinks]

Can we get the AWAs the **** out please?

 

[primebeer]

Can we get the AWAs the **** out please?

I drank some old gueuze tonight. In order from left to right: ‘05 OGV, ‘04 OG, ‘02 OGV, ‘08 OG, morning ‘07 Bio, ‘05 label Iris, ‘07 St Valetijns OGV. Overall, stellar bottles with the ‘02 OGV and ‘05 Iris being the highlights. ‘02 OGV was complex as hell and smelled like a fine blue cheese. Cork popped off as the cage was undone. The ‘05 Iris 375 was literally everything that old Iris is supposed to be. I may wake up and this was all a dream, but for now I’m very happy with a good night of drinking.

 

[ccbstl]

I drank some old gueuze tonight. In order from left to right: ‘05 OGV, ‘04 OG, ‘02 OGV, ‘08 OG, morning ‘07 Bio, ‘05 label Iris, ‘07 St Valetijns OGV. Overall, stellar bottles with the ‘02 OGV and ‘05 Iris being the highlights. ‘02 OGV was complex as hell and smelled like a fine blue cheese. Cork popped off as the cage was undone. The ‘05 Iris 375 was literally everything that old Iris is supposed to be. I may wake up and this was all a dream, but for now I’m very happy with a good night of drinking.