Stone's latest hyped announcement

[evilc]

Why is everyone so outraged? Don't contribute, problem solved.

Talking **** about what a ****** Greg Koch is and how lame Stone is does not = outrage.

 

[jmgrub]

Why is everyone so outraged? Don't contribute, problem solved.

Because it's offensive to me that a successful business asks for handouts as opposed to either obtaining a business loan, which benefits the economy, or taking equity investment.

 

[evilc]

Because it's offensive to me that a successful business asks for handouts as opposed to either obtaining a small business loan, which benefits the economy, or taking equity investment.

At least some kickstarters have somewhat decent "perks". The richest craft brewery in San Diego are total ******* cheapskates.

 

[litheum94]

Why is everyone so outraged? Don't contribute, problem solved.

It probably has to do with the hubris of a giant and successful brewery choosing to go this route instead of applying for a business loan, which I have no doubt they could easily be approved for. Combine that with the fact that the perks you receive are either over-priced or unattainable unless you travel to SD or Germany, and it makes the whole thing look like a steaming pile of crap.

 

[drgarage1]

I just want dontdrinkbeer to intihar that Magnum of brewdog collab. I will start my own crowd sourcing campaign to do so.

Also, leave Kickstarter alone. This ones on Indiegogo.

 

[tehzachatak]

This is frankly embarrassing for the industry. Not that these weren't already, but this is an whole different ballpark. Christ.

 

[evilc]

I just want dontdrinkbeer to intihar that Magnum of brewdog collab. I will start my own crowd sourcing campaign to do so.

Also, leave Kickstarter alone. This ones on Indiegogo.

Yeah, Kickstarter to me though is like "Kleenex", I just call any money grubbing a kickstarter! -)

 

[tehzachatak]

Like, seriously, they could have posted this kickstarter verbatim on April 1st, and I would have thought it was pretty good.

 

[tinypyramids1]

Because it's offensive to me that a successful business asks for handouts as opposed to either obtaining a business loan, which benefits the economy, or taking equity investment.

exactly this. if my money gets me equity, or if it's just some little guy trying to get off the ground, that's one thing. but a campaign with **** benefits run by a wildly successful brewery who could probably fund the whole thing themselves (or with business loans) asking for a handout. thanks but no thanks; the government hands out enough of my tax dollars to big businesses already.

 

[jmgrub]

You guys think we can raise 10g's to get "**** Stone in the mouth with a BBC" on a fermenter?

 

[lb304854]

How much for the collaboration with Christian Zellersfield?

 

[drgarage1]

Stone has defined a new genre of beer: Future ********. $50+ per bottle.

The videos for each beer are horrendous also.

 

[user 306809]

At least some kickstarters have somewhat decent "perks". The richest craft brewery in San Diego are total ******* cheapskates.

Yeah I'm not outraged in the least, but this campaign is certainly worthy of ridicule. A crowdfunding campaign should make you think "hey that's not too bad a deal and I'm helping this business I really like." Stone selling $50 magnums that you have to somehow retrieve from California is not anywhere close to "not too bad a deal." I can get single color front/back screen printed t-shirts with a higher quality brand (not Gildan) for like $6-7 each in relatively small quantities (a few dozen). $41 with shipping is nuts.

Too many people look at their crowdsourcing campaign as a way to get NSA money. I'm not against crowdsourcing, and may do it myself someday, but I would absolutely make sure that the $25/50/100/500 whatever level was actually worth $25/50/100/500 to the supporter. A friend of mine did a Kickstarter for her band's album release. For $50 you got a signed CD, digital copy, a ticket to a private release party/concert, and a drink voucher. You know, like stuff you could argue was actually worth $50 all together.

 

[mrk_d]

hahahahaha

http://www.crowdfundmafia.com/mafia...-their-craft-beer-community-via-crowdfunding/

 

[FBIinformant]

I'm still not sure what, aside from overpriced perks, would anyone in the states benefit from this? I mean, they open a brewery in Berlin. Awesome for them, I guess, easier to get their product to Europe. But back here in the states are we going to be enjoying those sick collabs (I guess if you're in S.D.) or anything that this project will do?

If anything, it'll get the companies attention slightly away from domestic projects, which we would rather benefit from. Buried in that massive "Homeless, anything would help" panhandler sign is some mention that they're going to open up east of the mississippi. Which should have been the main focus here.

Not some dick wagging "gotta open up in Europe" ********. If I were to travel there, why should I ******* visit them when I could actually visit local breweries?

And more importantly, why the **** couldn't they just use the money they make hand over fist from the multiple stone stores, the massively overpriced bistro stone garden or profits from **** like Wootstout 2.0?

It's really comically offensive.

 

[drgarage1]

hahahahaha

http://www.crowdfundmafia.com/mafia...-their-craft-beer-community-via-crowdfunding/

Is that satire? How?! Why?

 

[drgarage1]

"CEO of Stone, Greg Koch, known for giving impassioned speeches via megaphone while crowdsurfing atop throngs of loyal fans, has never approached the business side of the brewery with a traditional mindset."

Yes he has. He got the starter money from his dad.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/15/business/la-fi-himi-stone-20130317

 

[litheum94]

Stone has defined a new genre of beer: Future ********. $50+ per bottle.

The videos for each beer are horrendous also.

I'm really looking forward to watching those when I get home. I bet they're gold.

 

[jmgrub]

I, __________, member of TalkBeer.com, pledge not to purchase any Stone products, rare, limited, barrel-aged, lembeek or otherwise.

 

[SeaWatchman]

This is frankly embarrassing for the industry. Not that these weren't already, but this is an whole different ballpark. Christ.

This.

 

[litheum94]

Is that satire? How?! Why?

" totally kickass, no-holds-barred, limited-edition collaboration brews."

It has to be satire. Has to be.

 

[jmgrub]

Tyler Mains thinks Stone Brewing is a joke.

 

[SeaWatchman]

The BA thread is sure to be a riot when it gets going.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...-and-destination-restaurant-in-berlin.195806/

 

[drgarage1]

What level do I have to pay to get to deliver an impassioned speech on a megaphone while being crowd surfed by Greg Koch and Dr. Bill?

 

[litheum94]

The BA thread is sure to be a riot when it gets going.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...-and-destination-restaurant-in-berlin.195806/

I was wondering what was going on over at the other site. Keep us updated.

 

[SeaWatchman]

I was wondering what was going on over at the other site. Keep us updated.

**** no. I just pulled up BA for the first time in months to see if it was being talked about. I doubt I'll check back on it more than once or twice.

 

[user 306809]

I was wondering what was going on over at the other site. Keep us updated.

Not even a full page of replies yet, and about 50/50 negative/positive.

#talkbeermasterrace

 

[jmgrub]

Not even a full page of replies yet, and about 50/50 negative/positive.

#talkbeermasterrace

You could take 1 away from the positive side, because I was just trollin'

 

[ficklenicholas]

13k in three hours.

Imagine if that money went to charity, or one of those LIF's floating around.

More charities need to go to giving out magnums of polarizing, nasty pseudo whalez to gain more donations from sloppy beer geeks.

 

[drgarage1]

13k in three hours.

Imagine if that money went to charity, or one of those LIF's floating around.

More charities need to go to giving out magnums of polarizing, nasty pseudo whalez to gain more donations from sloppy beer geeks.

Might be able to trade one of those for derklerds