Poll: Do you have, or plan to get, an electric car?

[Rodrigue Planck]

I love electricity! I love cars!
Brewing is going electric, it's wonderful.
Ah, waiting hours to charge a vehicle?
Not really saving the environment (but it's so nice ya care!)
I have 2014 Honda Civic SI, it's among the greatest of internal combustion engines, it's powerful, economical (25K +42 dollars otd) and gets 29.3 mpg with spirited driving from an old fogey like me and handles like a dream.
Beware of mandates say I! If they are so good (remember CFC bulbs before LEDs? CFCs were mandated, what a disaster!) they should stand on their own. They can't possibly compete at this stage. Thanks for putting our tax dollars to help the rich afford em while they spit on plebes for wrecking the environment .
LOL, just in jest really. If you like em, get one. Not for me.

 

[Airborneguy]

I never wait. I plug in at home. It takes a grand total of 3 seconds (plug and unplug 3 seconds total). I don’t miss gas station visits - 3 min, 5 min, 10 min - whichever it is its a waste of time compared to waking up full every day.

 

[Kent88]

I love electricity! I love cars!
Brewing is going electric, it's wonderful.
Ah, waiting hours to charge a vehicle?

Lots of EV owners plug in overnight while their car is just sitting around anyway.

Not really saving the environment (but it's so nice ya care!)

While the environment is a topic closely related to EVs, that's really not a topic for this thread.

I think the best comment I've read here that touches on the environment that didn't really cross the line was that if gas/diesel car engines were really that efficient, we'd run our houses on them and not plug into the grid.

I have 2014 Honda Civic SI, it's among the greatest of internal combustion engines, it's powerful, economical (25K +42 dollars otd) and gets 29.3 mpg with spirited driving from an old fogey like me and handles like a dream.

Less than 30mpg? Good grief, I can get that from my Jeep. I don't call that efficient. I got about that from a Pontiac that was 10 years older than your Honda.

Beware of mandates say I! If they are so good (remember CFC bulbs before LEDs? CFCs were mandated, what a disaster!) they should stand on their own. They can't possibly compete at this stage. Thanks for putting our tax dollars to help the rich afford em

Government regulation is another topic we try to avoid outside of the Debate section. I've personally gone to the trouble of avoiding mentioning EV tax incentives to avoid that topic here. The furthest I think I, personally, would go on that topic today is: I like to say about people that as a group or population grows, the number of sweeping generalizations that can be made about them plummets, and I think something similar can be said about regulations in general. There are lots of them, some are good, some are bad, and a lot aren't worth getting worked up about.

If you like em, get one.

Thank you for your approval, I guess.

 

[Airborneguy]

Hate to break it to you but these talking points are regurgitated so regularly, across so many platforms, in near-lockstep wording, that I’ve come to immediately assume they’re paid copy and paste postings.

 

[Rodrigue Planck]

Hate to break it to you but these talking points are regurgitated so regularly, across so many platforms, in near-lockstep wording, that I’ve come to immediately assume they’re paid copy and paste postings.

Hate all ya want, but if you can show me where my words are regurgitated (Meaning not my own words), please show me! I'd be enthralled to know my views don't come from me!
I guess, I should just shut up and pay my taxes so people who look down on my view can feel better about how much smarter they are than the plebes. Tongue in cheek but, if EV owners paid their own way without money from fellow citizens, I'd appreciate it.

 

[Kent88]

Did ya chuckle when California told EV owner not charge at night?

I don't live in California. I don't pay close attention to what they do.

So it's cool to you that welfare for a vehicle is ok, and I have to support it with my tax dollars? Also, regulations are one thing, laws banning something is another....
Seems to me you want to raise a toast to the greatness of the inferior while not touching upon the negatives. Kinda like if you have a discussion about guns but can't mention the negatives. That makes it a lecture, not a discussio

Again, regulations are a topic for a thread in Debate. Same with firearms.

 

[tracer bullet]

I guess, I should just shut up and pay my taxes so people who look down on my view can feel better about how much smarter they are than the plebes.

Nope, not at all. However this thread is really not the place for this discussion in the slightest.

And if the discussion is moved elsewhere, I think you'll find people wanting to engage in real conversation, in detail, and not do drive-by drop-offs of common talking points

 

[Airborneguy]

Hate all ya want, but if you can show me where my words are regurgitated (Meaning not my own words), please show me! I'd be enthralled to know my views don't come from me!
I guess, I should just shut up and pay my taxes so people who look down on my view can feel better about how much smarter they are than the plebes. Tongue in cheek but, if EV owners paid their own way without money from fellow citizens, I'd appreciate it.

Is it save to assume you believe gas prices aren't subsidized?

 

[Kent88]

Is it save to assume you believe gas prices aren't subsidized?

I'm going to attempt to speed things along here. The U.S. subsidizes gasoline.

Let's move on from government regulations and subsidies.

 

[Airborneguy]

I can change it up. I ran a battery health test on my car last night into this morning. Owners tend to use the Tessie app for this but I went through the car’s “secret” service menu.

After running the battery down to nearly 0%, then charging back to 100%, it reported a battery health of 87%. That’s not great, but still way under the 30% threshold for a warranty replacement claim.

I have about 65,000 miles left on my battery warranty so I will run it again in 6 months or so to see how it fairs.

13% degradation is above the average of 2.5% per year but still doesn’t affect me at all. My daily drives occasionally touch 100-125 miles due to work, still well within the range of the car, even in the dead of winter or height of summer. It still easily accomplishes my towing needs as well.

 

[lurker18]

A two hour trip in a modern ev will mostly likely not need any charging at all.

not in the winter. like i said 65km trip, needed to be charged at the end of that, and the way back had a low battery warning and reduced speed limiter on. Even Audi thought there was something wrong. They took the vehicle back.

 

[Airborneguy]

not in the winter. like i said 65km trip, needed to be charged at the end of that, and the way back had a low battery warning and reduced speed limiter on. Even Audi thought there was something wrong. They took the vehicle back.

Then there was an issue with the car, not the overall technology.

The first road trip I took in my Tesla was in the heart of winter last year. We drove through near-blinding snow in PA and still easily made it from my house to Binghampton, NY, 189 miles, without charging.

 

[tracer bullet]

Even Audi thought there was something wrong.

I'd feel certain they are right. Here in MN we can see -20F / -30C or so occasionally, and all the Tesla owning coworkers are still driving. I have chatted with them and been friends with one for like 30 years, and the range is very definitely reduced but nowhere near that far down.

An EV might not be for you, of course, it's fine. But that Audi you reference is an outlier for sure.

 

[doug293cz]

Then there was an issue with the car, not the overall technology.

The first road trip I took in my Tesla was in the heart of winter last year. We drove through near-blinding snow in PA and still easily made it from my house to Binghampton, NY, 189 miles, without charging.

A little OT pendantry: There is no "P" in Binghamton (former Endicott resident.)

Brew on

 

[Airborneguy]

A little OT pendantry: There is no "P" in Binghamton (former Endicott resident.)

Brew on

I always friggin’ do that lol

 

[doug293cz]

Time for a reminder that political discussions are allowed only in the "Debate" forum. Since this thread is not in the Debate forum, no political commentary is allowed. Some posts have been getting too political here lately, and have been deleted.

Things that are not ok to discuss here:

• Merits of public policies encouraging/mandating EVs. Simple statements about what policies exist are allowed.
• Climate change.
• Public policies unrelated to EVs.

doug293cz
HBT Moderator

 

[Airborneguy]

I’m at a charging stop now, on my way to southern Virginia.

 

[TwistedGray]

Removing the vinyl wrap...why wrap over this gorgeous red!

 

[doug293cz]

Removing the vinyl wrap...why wrap over this gorgeous red!
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Is that a cosmetic wrap or protective wrap?

Brew on

 

[day_trippr]

He traffics in Teslas so I bet that was somebody's cosmetic wrap coming off...

Cheers!

 

[passedpawn]

I like white vehicles - have 3 now. Clean look. I'm not flamboyant. I did try black once, not doing that again haha.

 

[Kent88]

Not many gravel roads in your area, 'eh?

 

[passedpawn]

Not many gravel roads in your area, 'eh?

you talkin to me?

 

[passedpawn]

Not many gravel roads in your area, 'eh?

Haha, sure, not in my area. Still, I think white cars suffer dust better than black.

 

[TwistedGray]

Is that a cosmetic wrap or protective wrap?

Brew on

He traffics in Teslas so I bet that was somebody's cosmetic wrap coming off...

Cheers!

Cosmetic - not sure why, and they did a crap job

 

[Jonakr]

Haha, sure, not in my area. Still, I think white cars suffer dust better than black.

The best car color I've had so far was gold. It hid everything.

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

The best car color I've had so far was gold. It hid everything.

I can see the "it hides everything", but you still have to drive around in a gold car... I'd almost hope the dirt hides the gold paint

 

[passedpawn]

I had a gold Ford Granada. Back in "the day". I did polish that sucker once with rubbing compound, and man it did shine after! I was Midas for a day.

 

[Kent88]

Looking for one at the moment. Is Nissan Leaf a good option?

I don't have a Leaf, but I've heard that they're one of the most improved EVs available. Seems like they had some problems early on, but are much better now.

I hope that they're a solid EV.

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Looking for one at the moment. Is Nissan Leaf a good option?

With the exception of the very early-gen Leaf, which apparently didn't have appropriate (or any?) thermal management system for the battery, I've heard good things. I have a homebrewing buddy who has one and likes it.

Obviously they're range-limited compared to something like a Tesla, but they start at $28K new while a Model 3 starts at $40K new, so obviously not the same class of vehicle.

If I was looking for a commuter / around-town type car, I'd consider it.