Clyde McCoy
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Its not alot at all, Cloudwater and Other Half did a colab beer with 48 grams per liter which translates to 12lbs per barrel thats roughly 31oz in 5 gallons. I'm quiet sure there are breweries who went even beyond that.
It is a lot and it is "on the high side."
Typical according to many of the breweries who recently shared information to Janish for his book. Also from shellhammer’s study on maximum extraction rates;
Long-version
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jib.517
Short-version;
https://www.google.com/amp/s/patspi...dry-hopping-lessons-from-tom-shellhammer/amp/
I’d also like to see where it says heady uses 4 oz? Kemmich is open about his hops used but I’ve never seen him talk about a total hop amount. Also, even though Heady holds a special spot in my heart, it is not the same NEIPA( or for OH - Subcategory) that is being brewed today. Today’s beers are far softer, less bitter, more fruit forward. So if I’m trying to brew today’s beer I’m looking more towards OH, Trillium, Eq, TH, Weldworks, Monkish, and others as a source of information on hoping rates than Alchemist.
Yes, I've seen the Lafontaine and Shellhammer study. Their tests use whole cone Cascade hops, not pellets. And they recommend using 1.03-2.07 lbs/barrel, for the record. By historical standards and many professional breweries, 3lbs/barrel for dry hopping is "on the high side." Yes, I'm familiar with all of those breweries. I guarantee you some of them are using less than 3lbs/barrel for dry hopping. I also guarantee you some of them are using more than 3lbs/barrel for dry hopping. Obviously it depends on the target profile for each beer. Not clear to me why you and beervoid are going after me for this.
If you're really trying to use the hottest breweries as sources, enjoy this [old] Shaun Hill quote:
"9 barrels go into the fermenter.
Big Blow off.
Harvest and drop yeast.
7 pounds of dry hops go in.
7.5 bbls of beer come out."
The total quantity of hops in Julius is 3.1 lbs/barrel.
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