Official HBT Weight loss thread

[BierMuncher]

...I do drink too much beer, and so I'm a little heavier than I'd like to be, too....

Pushaaawwww...

I've seen a certain pic Yoop. You have all the right stuff in all the right places.

 

[rabidgerbil]

Pushaaawwww...

I've seen a certain pic Yoop. You have all the right stuff in all the right places.

I don't know about any particular pic, but I have seen a few of her pics, and I think that she looks great.

 

[skinfiddler]

Works for me. I'm 5-10 195#s 20% BF 55yo. Working towards 12-15% in the next year.

Eat often. 5-6 meals a day.
Each meal an equal divisible of your daily caloric intake total.
Keep fats (unsaturated-"good fats") to around 20%
Eat lean protein at each meal
Drink a gallon of water a day.
Do NOT rely on aerobic exercise only. (it will strip the muscle off you)
Get on a progressive resistance program. (muscle mass burns calories)
Read "Burn the Fat -Feed the Muscle" by Tom Venuto

Limit drinking alcohol to weekends- like tonight

JW

 

[Eastside Brewer]

Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............

 

[SwAMi75]

Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............

I'm curious as to what you mean by lifting weights making you "blow up like a baloon". You say you're looking to "lose body mass". If you work in some resistance training (i.e. lifting) to your exercise routine, you'll maintain/gain muscle mass and burn more fat. That means you will decrease your body fat and increase lean (muscle mass). It isn't all about losing weight.....it's about striking a healthy balance. Plus, the muscle mass will help you keep the fat off down the road.

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastside Brewer
Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............


I'm curious as to what you mean by lifting weights making you "blow up like a baloon". You say you're looking to "lose body mass". If you work in some resistance training (i.e. lifting) to your exercise routine, you'll maintain/gain muscle mass and burn more fat. That means you will decrease your body fat and increase lean (muscle mass). It isn't all about losing weight.....it's about striking a healthy balance. Plus, the muscle mass will help you keep the fat off down the road.

While this is all true- There is only one way to gain muscle. You must have a calorie surplus. The only way to lose weight is to have a calorie deficite. But too much either way gives bad results.

2lbs a week is a good healthy loss that will be easy to maintain in the long run. If you are seriously over weight 20% bf or 30% for women the first % of weight drops quick and slows. But just because your not losing 6lbs a week doenst mean your making progress. Goals should be 1-2lbs per week until you are down to 15% and then 1 per every 2 weeks.

Thats nice slow easy and healthy

 

[paulthenurse]

Are any of you computer savy folks able to generate some sort of graph sheet, an Excell sheet that can be inserted into a thread here or as a seperate thread? People looking for the support of others or looking to make this a competition can log their vital stats weekly.

I know I do better if I have a goal and can make it a competition. I'll do well if my goal is to say 'make it down to 200 lbs by the 4th of July,' (and now that I've typed it that is my stated goal, I've just decided.) I'll do even better if I'm not only working to get to 200 but to lose 1 more pound than someone else.

Perhaps others don't want to be in a competition and it doesn't have to be. I just know myself and I'll turn it into one in my head for motivational purposes. An overwhelming desire to beat someone. Probably a result of going from 1959 till 2003 living and dying with the Red Sox. Sports fan psychosis?

Overall weight itself and absolute pounds lost is probably a bad indicator of progress. Perhaps we can figure it out by percentages of your starting weight. BMI is a VERY slowly changing indicator and has very little motivational power for me.

PTN

 

[paulthenurse]

I don't know about any particular pic, but I have seen a few of her pics, and I think that she looks great.

Pony up the $ for a membership and go looking. You won't be sorry.

 

[MikeFlynn74]

Paul

BMI is a poor indicator IMO
Everyone says its great however when I was at 10% bf I was told I had a BMI of 32. WTF? It doesnt take into account bone structure or overall muscle mass.

When I have veins in my arms chest and legs I shouldnt be in the obese cat.

 

[PseudoChef]

Two things (which are rather similar) that I've seen already posted that are almost guaranteed won't work. You may see short term goals, but you'll inevitably fall off the horse:

1) Skipping meals. This is just going to cause you to overeat on your next meal.
2) Eating <= 1000/1500 calories a day. Same as above. One day you're just going to crack and binge. Plus, lifter or not, runner or not, couch potato or not, you're not going to have enough energy to get through a day. You will lose productivity at work and become lethargic.

It's not that hard, it all boils down to willpower. Eat smart. If you don't think you should eat it, then don't.

 

[rabidgerbil]

Are any of you computer savy folks able to generate some sort of graph sheet, an Excell sheet that can be inserted into a thread here or as a seperate thread? People looking for the support of others or looking to make this a competition can log their vital stats weekly.

Paul,
I can come up with something, I don't know if there is anyway to "embed" it into the thread, but I can easily put together an application that can be run on one of my web servers, and post a link to it in here for others to use. I will let everyone know when it is ready, and anyone who wants access can pm me for a username/password.

I will also post some screen shots, so that people can decide if they want to check it out or not.

 

[Eastside Brewer]

Once again I see the need to be more specific with my exercise details. I introduce light cardio at first as to not overly stress the heart. I have a job where i sit at a desk or drive. In the first intial steps to losing weight you don't need to go at it hard. I start with 30 min./day on an olyptical training machine for the first 2 weeks. Once things are under way, you can modify the workout to include light lifting, I like to circuit train with lighter weight and multiple reps which does build lean muscle. Look everybody has an opinion about everything, the key is to find what works for your body and go for it! It does take discipline and determination to get the weight off, but then it takes something even more difficult to keep it off, sel-control!! Hey good luck to everyone, like I said I'll be checking in later with results as I lose lbs.

Eastside........

 

[Soulive]

This weekend was rough for me with the playoffs, regarding food, but I still havent had any beer since New Years day. I haven't started exercising yet either but I did walk 9 holes of golf yesterday. I'm down 2lbs as of now...

 

[rabidgerbil]

This weekend was rough for me with the playoffs, regarding food, but I still havent had any beer since New Years day. I haven't started exercising yet either but I did walk 9 holes of golf yesterday. I'm down 2lbs as of now...

Good job man.

Mine was not the best weekend either. I have a brother in law that is getting married this coming Saturday, and we had an all day event for him this last Saturday... bunch of friends got together for breakfast at our favorite diner, then it was off to a gym at the school where one brother teaches, and we played basketball, floor hockey and dodgeball for about 4 hours, then we all got back together in the evening at church and had a big dinner for him. These all day events are a tradition with the guys in our church, and I have another close friend getting married in 8 weeks, so we have the bachelor party this last weekend, a wedding next weekend, another party in seven weeks, and another wedding in eight weeks.
Not exactly a diet friendly couple of months.

I can happily say though, that I too am down 2 lbs... probably just water weight, but hey, it is something to be happy about, and that is where it all starts.

 

[Soulive]

Good job man.

Mine was not the best weekend either. I have a brother in law that is getting married this coming Saturday, and we had an all day event for him this last Saturday... bunch of friends got together for breakfast at our favorite diner, then it was off to a gym at the school where one brother teaches, and we played basketball, floor hockey and dodgeball for about 4 hours, then we all got back together in the evening at church and had a big dinner for him. These all day events are a tradition with the guys in our church, and I have another close friend getting married in 8 weeks, so we have the bachelor party this last weekend, a wedding next weekend, another party in seven weeks, and another wedding in eight weeks.
Not exactly a diet friendly couple of months.

I can happily say though, that I too am down 2 lbs... probably just water weight, but hey, it is something to be happy about, and that is where it all starts.

Good for you too. Like you said, ya gotta start somewhere and 2lbs in one week works for me

 

[Alamo_Beer]

SWMBO and I had a productive week. We made it to the gym on Thursday and Friday, took the weekend off...

We've been eating better too. We're doing the "eat every 3-4hrs" thing. Smoothies in the morning, snack at 10 or so, half sandwich and snack at 1, Dinner at 5-6, Gym at 7.

I did a whole freakin hr on the elliptical while listening to the Jamil Podcast about IPA's....really helped the time fly.

We're going back to the gym starting today, I think we'll take the weekends off though bc it's just easier to do durring the week.

Oh and an assload of water everyday!

 

[brauhaus]

Welp, I might as well join ya'll.

Our work is having a bit of a "Biggest Loser" contest and we all are being encouraged to join... we have bi-weekly weigh-ins and the winner gets a round trip in a limo to the casino in Atlantic City, dinner and $150 to gamble away...

I have a 1 year old and 1 cooking, there is no way the SWMBO is going to be thrilled about me winning... plus we all have to pay in $50.

for some reason i'm just not into it this year.

I am a big guy, I'm 6'2" and weigh 243lbs. I used to weigh 185lbs and I'll admit it didn't look right on me... I looked too skinny... i'd like to at least drop a good 30lbs...

Right now my SWMBO and I realized we eat healthy, but we just don't have any activity, so we're going to drink more water and exercise on a regular basis (like 3 times a week)... hopefully I can shed some pounds and fit in some of my old clothes...

 

[brauhaus]

SWMBO and I had a productive week. We made it to the gym on Thursday and Friday, took the weekend off...

We've been eating better too. We're doing the "eat every 3-4hrs" thing. Smoothies in the morning, snack at 10 or so, half sandwich and snack at 1, Dinner at 5-6, Gym at 7.

I did a whole freakin hr on the elliptical while listening to the Jamil Podcast about IPA's....really helped the time fly.

We're going back to the gym starting today, I think we'll take the weekends off though bc it's just easier to do durring the week.

Oh and an assload of water everyday!

I used to run 5 miles a night... I don't think I could manage 1 mile now

however, I was debating whether or not the whole eatting every 3-4 hours thing worked... how's that working our for you?

i drink a lot of water to being with, decided to drink more... i noticed i'm peeing a LOT!

 

[Fish]

I had tried doing the gym thing many times over the years. Then in '05 I started a new philosophy when I worked out and it really helped I have been going regularly (3-5 times a week) since.

In the past I had been very goal oriented I even went to trainers who gave me large lists of things to do and it never really stuck. I wanted to run x miles a day or be able to lift my body weight or whatever there were a lot of different things I wanted to do and some of them I did some I didn't. What I set as my goal in 05 was just to go to the gym. Thats the important thing to show up. You need to make it something you have to do but just get there, I think too many of us set goals that are either too hard at first or too boring.

The goal is to go. Make it for 15 minutes at first if you have to but just go. Then after a while give your self goals, get a trainer or whatever but make the goal just to show up not to get result immediately.

 

[srm775]

I'm joining you guys (christ I sound like a woman). I want to lose 5 lbs of body fat by April 15.

Right now I'm 5'10" and weigh 195.

I'm planning on reducing my calories to just under 2000 per day. The biggest problem I have is I work in the food industry and am surrounded by food or images of food all day. Mostly, I going to concentrate on eating a bit healthier and smaller portions (my biggest downfall).

I plan to work out at least 30 minutes 5-7 times per week. Through work, I have a free gym membership and am forced to go twice per week. The other 3-5 times per week will be at home on the treadmill and moderate lifting with home gym.

 

[Alamo_Beer]

I know what you mean Fish, I don't necissarily have any set goals for myself besides just going...right now thats the most important thing. If SWMBO and I can just get it into our routine then thats what counts.

BraeHaus, the "eating every 3-4hrs thing" seems to be going pretty well. I've deffinatly been eating less but I don't feel hungry because I'm always eating, or at least I know "ok 1 more hour and I can have a snack" It kinda makes since too bc if your body realizes there is a constant supply of food it doesn't have to store fat. The whole "feast or famine" thing right?

Also, does anybody have any idea on how much water you really should drink? I've been looking online and some of the estimates seem a bit rediculous but maybe I'm just wrong...

 

[david_42]

Water: your TOTAL fluid intake should be about 30 ml/kg. That includes all sources, water, bread, beer, coffee, fruit, everything. Since this works out to about 64 ounces per day for an average person, 8 glasses of water per day has become a factoid that will never die.

If you are thirsty, drink an 8 oz. glass of water, juice, whatever. If you are not thirsty, don't force water. It messes with your ion balance and in extreme cases, can kill you.

 

[bigjohnmilford]

1 week+ without beer watching what I eat a little more and some more physical activity = 7lb less of me.

anyone else have an update?

 

[MikeFlynn74]

David

64oz is a good starting point for most women and men under 150, but I have never seen an adult male who needed less than 1gal a day.

And only in EXTREME cases does drinking too much water become an issue. These are usually in people with a huge potassium imbalance in the first place.

If you are 200+ 1 gallon a day should be your goal.

On a side note- This is my first week back in the gym- muscles are not happy. By week 3 I should be lifting 90% and hitting cardio about 3x a week for 20 min. I should be able to hit 245-250 and keep my 35" waist. Just wish I had a proper kitchen or food menu here.

 

[brauhaus]

on a given day I drink an easy 64oz here at work, plus we have a water cooler at home that we get frequent use out of....

naturally I drink and pee a lot.

my wife and I don't eat bad, we just don't exercise... sadly I need to motivate myself to actually try to get some physical activity... with long hours at work, plus fire school at night til 11pm i come home and all I want to do is sleep...

it's easier to make excuses why not to work out than it is to work out, so I'm working on breaking myself of this and trying to be more active... one thing I noticed I do more of is walk... I get up every 2 hours or so at work and just walk around...

hey if some people take 15 smoke breaks in a day, what's me stretching my legs for 5 mins going to hurt?

 

[sdhucks7]

Hit the gym for the first time this year last night. 20min on the treadmill, 20 min on machines and then 20min on bike. Dang i am sore! But it is a good kind of sore. Now if i can just keep it up for another couple of months i will be svelte again.

SD

 

[Schwind]

Started the year at 203, today I'm at 199, and I want to be at 190-185 before March. Working out isn't the hard part, its the not drinking during the week that kills.
Still better than a year ago when I was 230.

The one thing I learned though, if you just stick with it, it gets easier. and then when you miss a few days at the gym, or eat five sausages with five beers, you'll be dissapointed with yourself. At least I was. but they were good sausages.

 

[Alamo_Beer]

Well I guess It's time for the Friday Weigh In

5' 11" 240Lb 1/11/08

Down 5lb!!

Woohoo! Well we've stuck with it a week so far, we didn't go to the Gym on Wednesday bc we had to run some other stuff to get done, but we've been eating well and drinking lots of water so....here's to another week

 

[Yooper]

Well I guess It's time for the Friday Weigh In

5' 11" 240Lb 1/11/08

Down 5lb!!

Woohoo! Well we've stuck with it a week so far, we didn't go to the Gym on Wednesday bc we had to run some other stuff to get done, but we've been eating well and drinking lots of water so....here's to another week

Five pounds! That's great!

 

[Chriso]

SWMBO and I aren't on track yet, we are waiting for life to settle a bit, and to get back to our routine. Nothing is harder than trying to initiate small, gradual changes when the rest of your life still is swirling around you.

The roommates move in a couple of weeks, then we get our house and our life back. Normalcy will reign, and we can finally put effort into a exercise routine.

I'm also petitioning Mum to let us borrow her treadmill that is unused as of late. (She does Tae Kwon Do four nights a week, doesn't need a treadmill much b/c of it)

 

[Soulive]

SWMBO and I aren't on track yet, we are waiting for life to settle a bit, and to get back to our routine. Nothing is harder than trying to initiate small, gradual changes when the rest of your life still is swirling around you.

Same here, but its back to the YMCA on Monday...

 

[Chriso]

Part of it is $$$ too - SWMBO just got her 2nd paycheck today, we're still working on reserve funds and paying off a couple of late bills before we can splurge on a Y membership. I joined the Y this time of last year, and went for 2 months.... love their facilities, it's a great service for a reasonable price. I assume that, unless SWMBO has other plans, that we'll rejoin the Y before looking at a private gym. If we can borrow the treadmill, though, we have something to do for free, at home, with no membership.

 

[Reverend JC]

ok, here we go again.

Only this time i actually want to lose the weight. The last time i gave it a half assed effort.

I consulted with my sister who is getting her masters in dietary something or other.

She told me for my height and weight i need to eat 2300 calories a day to lose a lb a week with zero exercise. i have one upped her and settled at 2000.

My problem is i love eating. i lvoe the taste. but only when im hungry and as such when i do eat which is 2 times a day i eat to much. so when i still feel hungry the past few days i drink alot of water to feel full and it seems to be working.

6'6" 285 when i started 3 days ago. we will see what happens.

 

[bigjohnmilford]

Five pounds! That's great!

+1 way to go

 

[EdWort]

Been going to the gym every day this week. Cut WAY back on the beer. Down 8 lbs since 1-3-08.

Going to a Birthday party tonight and my Anchor Porter Clone is the guest of honor. Gonna have to go to the gym over the weekend.

 

[Soulive]

Been going to the gym every day this week. Cut WAY back on the beer. Down 8 lbs since 1-3-08.

Going to a Birthday party tonight and my Anchor Porter Clone is the guest of honor. Gonna have to go to the gym over the weekend.

Damn, a pound per day! :rockin:

 

[bigjohnmilford]

Been going to the gym every day this week. Cut WAY back on the beer. Down 8 lbs since 1-3-08.

Going to a Birthday party tonight and my Anchor Porter Clone is the guest of honor. Gonna have to go to the gym over the weekend.

nice going Ed

 

[sdhucks7]

Been to the gym twice this week, and havent eaten alot either. Just got off of the scale, started at 205 just weighed 201. Not alot but hey its a start. As long as it keeps going down

 

[Alamo_Beer]

I know what you mean about normalcy Chriso. Classes haven't started yet so things are a bit wacky but with both of us working everyday M-F it's pretty easy to go in the evenings. The weekends are OUT though bc there is no where we need to be or do so it's a lot harder to plan.

Good luck everybody! I think if you just stick to it SOMETHING is going to happen

 

[shunoshi]

I've jumped on this wagon myself. This new brewing hobby has made quite the impact on my belly. Time to burn this puppy off. I've stopped drinking pop completely, cut out beer drinking on weekdays, switched up the diet to remove fast food (except Chinese on Thursdays...you can't pay me to give up Chinese food), and started running every night after work. Hoping to burn off a good chunk of this gut by spring time. Just gotta stick with it. Good luck all!! :rockin: