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Eastside

You barely have 1000 calories there. You are starving yourself.

2 eggs? thats it?

When I am cutting-

6 eggwhites
3 whole
2 pieces of whole grain toast
1 tab peanutbutter

8 oz Turkey sandwich
8 oz milk

8 oz steak
10 oz baked potato
10 oz vegatables

Post workout shake
50gm protien
50gm Dextros

2 6oz Chicken breast
1 8oz sweet potato
corn/beans

protein shake just before bed
45gm
Multi vitamins (somehting like Animal pak)

and usually I will wake up midnight ish and have
1 reheated chicken breast with 8-12oz milk

i usually switch to Skim when cutting as I drink about a gallon a day. On top of that I drink a min of 1 gallon of water if not 2 every day.

When Bulking I just add- 1 cup of rice or larger baked potato to every meal.
 
MikeFlynn74 said:
Eastside

You barely have 1000 calories there. You are starving yourself.

2 eggs? thats it?

When I am cutting-

6 eggwhites
3 whole
2 pieces of whole grain toast
1 tab peanutbutter

8 oz Turkey sandwich
8 oz milk

8 oz steak
10 oz baked potato
10 oz vegatables

Post workout shake
50gm protien
50gm Dextros

2 6oz Chicken breast
1 8oz sweet potato
corn/beans

protein shake just before bed
45gm
Multi vitamins (somehting like Animal pak)

and usually I will wake up midnight ish and have
1 reheated chicken breast with 8-12oz milk

i usually switch to Skim when cutting as I drink about a gallon a day. On top of that I drink a min of 1 gallon of water if not 2 every day.

When Bulking I just add- 1 cup of rice or larger baked potato to every meal.

Since you're talking cutting/bulking, I assume you're a lifter. It does not appear that Eastside is, therefore he doesn't need all the calories you do.

That said, I don't agree with crash diets....they are not sustainable, and you will gain the weight back. I lost about 42 lbs in 4 months by watching my diet, and exercising smartly. The first two months, I focused on running, and watching my calories. The last two months, I backed off on the cardio (just a little) and focused more on lifting. I adjusted my diet to high protein/moderate fat/low carb....I aimed for 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight. I put on muscle like crazy, and kept burning fat/losing weight. It's amazing what these adjustments will do for your metabolism. I attribute my success to two things: workout dicipline and keeping a close eye on the diet. It takes a significant lifestyle change.
 
Ok, time for me to jump in here also.

Stats:
Age - 38
Sex - Male
Height - 5'10"
Weight - 267
Body Fat - 26 %

The wife is convinced that I am going to die by the time I am 40.
I had two beers at a function that her company put on this evening,
between 6 and 8 pm. About 9 pm we were home, and I started to
pull a Winterhook out of the fridge, and that started a huge fight about
my weight/health. I know that she is right. I remember what it felt like
to be healthy and in shape. It is time to get there again. Back in 94 I
went from 240 to 175 by changing my eating habits and my work out
habits. It is time to do it again. I graduated high school at 190, and I
would like to be back around there. That is where I still have decent
muscle mass, but low body fat. When I get below 190, it is by also losing
a lot of muscle mass.

So, that being said, I like the idea of updating in here each week, like
someone said earlier.

01/04/2008 - 267.2 lbs and 26.0 % body fat
01/11/2008 - 262.6 lbs and 27.5 % body fat


Plus, when I can get to 190 and keep it there, she can't complain about
how much beer I drink :drunk:
 
rabidgerbil said:
Ok, time for me to jump in here also.

Stats:
Age - 38
Sex - Male
Height - 5'10"
Weight - 267
Body Fat - 26 %

The wife is convinced that I am going to die by the time I am 40.
I had two beers at a function that her company put on this evening,
between 6 and 8 pm. About 9 pm we were home, and I started to
pull a Winterhook out of the fridge, and that started a huge fight about
my weight/health. I know that she is right. I remember what it felt like
to be healthy and in shape. It is time to get there again. Back in 94 I
went from 240 to 175 by changing my eating habits and my work out
habits. It is time to do it again. I graduated high school at 190, and I
would like to be back around there. That is where I still have decent
muscle mass, but low body fat. When I get below 190, it is by also losing
a lot of muscle mass.

So, that being said, I like the idea of updating in here each week, like
someone said earlier.

1/4/2008 - 267 lbs and 26 % body fat


Plus, when I can get to 190 and keep it there, she can't complain about
how much beer I drink :drunk:

Get after it and let us know how it goes! :cool:
 
rabid

Good luck- You know you can do it.
My best shape was 255 @ 13% I am aiming for 248 @ 10% now.



sWami

While yes- I am a lifter I still do cardio as a stong body requires a strong heart.
 
I like the up front honesty of Rabidgerbil. (Even if I find his name somewhat disquieting.)

I'm jumping onboard the public scale. I was at my Dr's for a 5 year overdue physical just before Christmas and after I told him I wanted him to, he bitch slapped me for gaining as much weight as I have. I was at my all time high of 268. I've gained almost 70 lbs in about 3 years. My BP wasn't bad, but that's no excuse. I'm too freakin' fat. I'm about 5'9 and I'll be 49 in March. I need to lose weight. I know I can lose the weight, I've been almost this big before. I'm down to 261 as of last night and I'm hoping to be under 240 by the begining of Feb.

I can be pretty good at holding the line when I make up my mind to do so and I've been working towards steeling myself for a while. I'm onboard.
 
It's hard to be disciplined, that's for sure. I guess my words of encouragement are just to realize how damn good you feel when you're in shape. I sleep well, have tons of energy, and can outskate someone half my age. I haven't had a potato chip or soda in at least 5 years. I can't remember the last time I had a piece of cake or a doughnut- probably like 10 years, maybe more.

I LOVE good food, and just always tell myself that I'd rather have a very nice dinner every single night than to have a junk food meal once a week. We always have a nice dinner, complete with wine and candles, every single night. It's healthy stuff, and it is more of a treat than a stop at McDonald's anyway. And like OlllllO mentioned, I don't eat anything packaged or unrecognizable as food by my great- grandmother. I do drink too much beer, and so I'm a little heavier than I'd like to be, too.

So, there are ways to reward yourself that include food and beer! Just always think before you eat- no mindless eating. Especially in front of the TV- it's too easy to not even realize that you put away 800 calories!

Good luck all!
 
paulthenurse said:
Rabid,
What day do you want to do weigh ins and check in with each other? Do Saturday's work for you?
Paul

Paul - friday, saturday, what ever, it all works for me...
and I am happy to do what ever I can to help someone else stick to it,
and to have all the help I can get to help me stick to it...

as to my screen name, there is a thread about names and avatars...
here is my response to that one
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=500555&postcount=204
 
BierMuncher said:
Pushaaawwww...

I've seen a certain pic Yoop. You have all the right stuff in all the right places. ;)

I don't know about any particular pic, but I have seen a few of her pics, and I think that she looks great.
 
Works for me. I'm 5-10 195#s 20% BF 55yo. Working towards 12-15% in the next year.

Eat often. 5-6 meals a day.
Each meal an equal divisible of your daily caloric intake total.
Keep fats (unsaturated-"good fats") to around 20%
Eat lean protein at each meal
Drink a gallon of water a day.
Do NOT rely on aerobic exercise only. (it will strip the muscle off you)
Get on a progressive resistance program. (muscle mass burns calories)
Read "Burn the Fat -Feed the Muscle" by Tom Venuto

Limit drinking alcohol to weekends- like tonight :mug:

JW
 
Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............
 
Eastside Brewer said:
Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............

I'm curious as to what you mean by lifting weights making you "blow up like a baloon". You say you're looking to "lose body mass". If you work in some resistance training (i.e. lifting) to your exercise routine, you'll maintain/gain muscle mass and burn more fat. That means you will decrease your body fat and increase lean (muscle mass). It isn't all about losing weight.....it's about striking a healthy balance. Plus, the muscle mass will help you keep the fat off down the road.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eastside Brewer
Chriso, it is "Fat Flush" and it is organic 100% cran juice from Trader Joes, and it is mixed with water.

Just to clarify, it is not my suggestion that the meal plan I proposed earlier in this thread be a long term plan. It is intended to be a 2 to 4 week plan, and the once you get going, the plan gets modified with some carbs and larger protien portions, but the principles remain the same. Eat something every couple of hours, watch your calories, don't eat after 6pm, light to moderate exercise at least 30 min. a day. I like the diet because you get quick results, but everyone knows that to make it last, it has to be a lifestyle change. I am not a lifter, if I lift weights, I blow up like a baloon! I am looking to lose body mass. I am 36 years old, 6' 0" and 277 lbs., I need to get down to 200 to be healthy, I have a 3 year old that would probably like to have me around for a while. Fat Flush will get me down to my ideal weight, then it is my job to keep myself there. Thanks for your input, good luck to everyone, i'll be checking in periodically withe results.

Eastside............


I'm curious as to what you mean by lifting weights making you "blow up like a baloon". You say you're looking to "lose body mass". If you work in some resistance training (i.e. lifting) to your exercise routine, you'll maintain/gain muscle mass and burn more fat. That means you will decrease your body fat and increase lean (muscle mass). It isn't all about losing weight.....it's about striking a healthy balance. Plus, the muscle mass will help you keep the fat off down the road.

While this is all true- There is only one way to gain muscle. You must have a calorie surplus. The only way to lose weight is to have a calorie deficite. But too much either way gives bad results.

2lbs a week is a good healthy loss that will be easy to maintain in the long run. If you are seriously over weight 20% bf or 30% for women the first % of weight drops quick and slows. But just because your not losing 6lbs a week doenst mean your making progress. Goals should be 1-2lbs per week until you are down to 15% and then 1 per every 2 weeks.

Thats nice slow easy and healthy
 
Are any of you computer savy folks able to generate some sort of graph sheet, an Excell sheet that can be inserted into a thread here or as a seperate thread? People looking for the support of others or looking to make this a competition can log their vital stats weekly.

I know I do better if I have a goal and can make it a competition. I'll do well if my goal is to say 'make it down to 200 lbs by the 4th of July,' (and now that I've typed it that is my stated goal, I've just decided.) I'll do even better if I'm not only working to get to 200 but to lose 1 more pound than someone else.

Perhaps others don't want to be in a competition and it doesn't have to be. I just know myself and I'll turn it into one in my head for motivational purposes. An overwhelming desire to beat someone. Probably a result of going from 1959 till 2003 living and dying with the Red Sox. Sports fan psychosis?

Overall weight itself and absolute pounds lost is probably a bad indicator of progress. Perhaps we can figure it out by percentages of your starting weight. BMI is a VERY slowly changing indicator and has very little motivational power for me.

PTN
 
Paul

BMI is a poor indicator IMO
Everyone says its great however when I was at 10% bf I was told I had a BMI of 32. WTF? It doesnt take into account bone structure or overall muscle mass.

When I have veins in my arms chest and legs I shouldnt be in the obese cat.
 
Two things (which are rather similar) that I've seen already posted that are almost guaranteed won't work. You may see short term goals, but you'll inevitably fall off the horse:

1) Skipping meals. This is just going to cause you to overeat on your next meal.
2) Eating <= 1000/1500 calories a day. Same as above. One day you're just going to crack and binge. Plus, lifter or not, runner or not, couch potato or not, you're not going to have enough energy to get through a day. You will lose productivity at work and become lethargic.

It's not that hard, it all boils down to willpower. Eat smart. If you don't think you should eat it, then don't.
 
paulthenurse said:
Are any of you computer savy folks able to generate some sort of graph sheet, an Excell sheet that can be inserted into a thread here or as a seperate thread? People looking for the support of others or looking to make this a competition can log their vital stats weekly.

Paul,
I can come up with something, I don't know if there is anyway to "embed" it into the thread, but I can easily put together an application that can be run on one of my web servers, and post a link to it in here for others to use. I will let everyone know when it is ready, and anyone who wants access can pm me for a username/password.

I will also post some screen shots, so that people can decide if they want to check it out or not.
 
Once again I see the need to be more specific with my exercise details. I introduce light cardio at first as to not overly stress the heart. I have a job where i sit at a desk or drive. In the first intial steps to losing weight you don't need to go at it hard. I start with 30 min./day on an olyptical training machine for the first 2 weeks. Once things are under way, you can modify the workout to include light lifting, I like to circuit train with lighter weight and multiple reps which does build lean muscle. Look everybody has an opinion about everything, the key is to find what works for your body and go for it! It does take discipline and determination to get the weight off, but then it takes something even more difficult to keep it off, sel-control!! Hey good luck to everyone, like I said I'll be checking in later with results as I lose lbs.

Eastside........
 
This weekend was rough for me with the playoffs, regarding food, but I still havent had any beer since New Years day. I haven't started exercising yet either but I did walk 9 holes of golf yesterday. I'm down 2lbs as of now...
 
Soulive said:
This weekend was rough for me with the playoffs, regarding food, but I still havent had any beer since New Years day. I haven't started exercising yet either but I did walk 9 holes of golf yesterday. I'm down 2lbs as of now...

Good job man.

Mine was not the best weekend either. I have a brother in law that is getting married this coming Saturday, and we had an all day event for him this last Saturday... bunch of friends got together for breakfast at our favorite diner, then it was off to a gym at the school where one brother teaches, and we played basketball, floor hockey and dodgeball for about 4 hours, then we all got back together in the evening at church and had a big dinner for him. These all day events are a tradition with the guys in our church, and I have another close friend getting married in 8 weeks, so we have the bachelor party this last weekend, a wedding next weekend, another party in seven weeks, and another wedding in eight weeks.
Not exactly a diet friendly couple of months.

I can happily say though, that I too am down 2 lbs... probably just water weight, but hey, it is something to be happy about, and that is where it all starts.
 
rabidgerbil said:
Good job man.

Mine was not the best weekend either. I have a brother in law that is getting married this coming Saturday, and we had an all day event for him this last Saturday... bunch of friends got together for breakfast at our favorite diner, then it was off to a gym at the school where one brother teaches, and we played basketball, floor hockey and dodgeball for about 4 hours, then we all got back together in the evening at church and had a big dinner for him. These all day events are a tradition with the guys in our church, and I have another close friend getting married in 8 weeks, so we have the bachelor party this last weekend, a wedding next weekend, another party in seven weeks, and another wedding in eight weeks.
Not exactly a diet friendly couple of months.

I can happily say though, that I too am down 2 lbs... probably just water weight, but hey, it is something to be happy about, and that is where it all starts.

Good for you too. Like you said, ya gotta start somewhere and 2lbs in one week works for me :mug:
 
SWMBO and I had a productive week. We made it to the gym on Thursday and Friday, took the weekend off...

We've been eating better too. We're doing the "eat every 3-4hrs" thing. Smoothies in the morning, snack at 10 or so, half sandwich and snack at 1, Dinner at 5-6, Gym at 7.

I did a whole freakin hr on the elliptical while listening to the Jamil Podcast about IPA's....really helped the time fly.

We're going back to the gym starting today, I think we'll take the weekends off though bc it's just easier to do durring the week.

Oh and an assload of water everyday!
 
Welp, I might as well join ya'll.

Our work is having a bit of a "Biggest Loser" contest and we all are being encouraged to join... we have bi-weekly weigh-ins and the winner gets a round trip in a limo to the casino in Atlantic City, dinner and $150 to gamble away...

I have a 1 year old and 1 cooking, there is no way the SWMBO is going to be thrilled about me winning... plus we all have to pay in $50.

for some reason i'm just not into it this year.

I am a big guy, I'm 6'2" and weigh 243lbs. I used to weigh 185lbs and I'll admit it didn't look right on me... I looked too skinny... i'd like to at least drop a good 30lbs...

Right now my SWMBO and I realized we eat healthy, but we just don't have any activity, so we're going to drink more water and exercise on a regular basis (like 3 times a week)... hopefully I can shed some pounds and fit in some of my old clothes...
 
Alamo_Beer said:
SWMBO and I had a productive week. We made it to the gym on Thursday and Friday, took the weekend off...

We've been eating better too. We're doing the "eat every 3-4hrs" thing. Smoothies in the morning, snack at 10 or so, half sandwich and snack at 1, Dinner at 5-6, Gym at 7.

I did a whole freakin hr on the elliptical while listening to the Jamil Podcast about IPA's....really helped the time fly.

We're going back to the gym starting today, I think we'll take the weekends off though bc it's just easier to do durring the week.

Oh and an assload of water everyday!

I used to run 5 miles a night... I don't think I could manage 1 mile now :(

however, I was debating whether or not the whole eatting every 3-4 hours thing worked... how's that working our for you?

i drink a lot of water to being with, decided to drink more... i noticed i'm peeing a LOT!
 
I had tried doing the gym thing many times over the years. Then in '05 I started a new philosophy when I worked out and it really helped I have been going regularly (3-5 times a week) since.

In the past I had been very goal oriented I even went to trainers who gave me large lists of things to do and it never really stuck. I wanted to run x miles a day or be able to lift my body weight or whatever there were a lot of different things I wanted to do and some of them I did some I didn't. What I set as my goal in 05 was just to go to the gym. Thats the important thing to show up. You need to make it something you have to do but just get there, I think too many of us set goals that are either too hard at first or too boring.

The goal is to go. Make it for 15 minutes at first if you have to but just go. Then after a while give your self goals, get a trainer or whatever but make the goal just to show up not to get result immediately.
 
I'm joining you guys (christ I sound like a woman). I want to lose 5 lbs of body fat by April 15.

Right now I'm 5'10" and weigh 195.

I'm planning on reducing my calories to just under 2000 per day. The biggest problem I have is I work in the food industry and am surrounded by food or images of food all day. Mostly, I going to concentrate on eating a bit healthier and smaller portions (my biggest downfall).

I plan to work out at least 30 minutes 5-7 times per week. Through work, I have a free gym membership and am forced to go twice per week. The other 3-5 times per week will be at home on the treadmill and moderate lifting with home gym.
 

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