Make IPA Clear Again

[Blazinlow86]

I'm not sure we are in the minority. Pretty sure most of the beer purchased in the world is clear.

In that case you shouldn't have a problem ordering a ipa and getting a clear one correct? The op who I was replying to has trouble finding clear IPA in his area and therefore made post #1. Cheers

 

[NeoBrew]

In that case you shouldn't have a problem ordering a ipa and getting a clear one correct? The op who I was replying to has trouble finding clear IPA in his area and therefore made post #1. Cheers

Touche! You got me. I was stretching there. (Too many homebrews I guess!) I'm with the OP, clear labeling is what I'm looking for.

 

[Schlenkerla]

I'm not sure we are in the minority. Pretty sure most of the beer purchased in the world is clear.

The dark malty ones are usually not clear. That's mainly because of the high amount of dark roasted malts.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I'm not sure we are in the minority. Pretty sure most of the beer purchased in the world is clear.

I think you're in the minority with respect to complaining about NEIPAs being labeled as IPAs. I guess you really have two options:

Be angry until the day you leave this earth

or

Get over it.

You're choice

 

[Beerswimmer]

When NEIPAs originated, they didn't want to create a hazy beer. They wanted to create a beer loaded with hop flavor....particularly some of the modern (at the time) hops that featured a very fruit forward flavor profile. The haze just came with the process.

I did the same thing back in the early 2000's when fruity hops were becoming more popular. I wanted a fruity IPA that wasn't bitter, but soft like a hefeweizen. I always felt like too much bitterness took a bit away from the hop fruityness. I wanted a super fruity beer that had a texture and low IBU taste of a hefeweizen. I kept all hops out of the hot side and added dry hops during and after fermentation to achieve it. I used low attenuating English yeasts and 50%wheat + oats sometimes to get it silky. I couldn't get it clear every time, but it wasn't bitter! They were always a little hazy, but so are silky hefeweizens. Then I started to hear about the Alchemist and their "hazy" IPA and understood that they were doing the same as I was. It was just what the beer ended up looking like. Now, intentionally adding things to create a haze with no purpose other than appearance I can't understand. Or wanting it to look as clear as a pilsner(it's NOT a pilsner!) I don't get either. Personally, appearance means zero to me. I care more about what it tastes like!

Clear, hazy. As long as it tastes great I'm in!

 

[Schlenkerla]

I think you're in the minority with respect to complaining about NEIPAs being labeled as IPAs. I guess you really have two options:

Be angry until the day you leave this earth

or

Get over it.

You're choice

You're right it's not worth being angry. I like a classic IPA, but will drink NEIPA. The latter is a favorite at my local watering hole.

It's more of an annoyance of beers being passed for what they are not. Nothing else. So blame the brewer not the beer. It's like guns.... I'm mad at that damn gun, it killed my dog. When it's was in fact my neighbor.

So, blame the brewer for shooting your dog, or your neighbor for giving you cloudy beer. Or your neighbor for shooting your dog for crapping on his lawn. Or blame your brewer for giving you crappy beer. But don't shoot him, crap on his lawn.

 

[Schlenkerla]

Or teach your dog to do it....

 

[NeoBrew]

I think you're in the minority with respect to complaining about NEIPAs being labeled as IPAs. I guess you really have two options:

Be angry until the day you leave this earth

or

Get over it.

You're choice

Be angry until the day you leave this earth <--THIS

or

Get over it.

 

[day_trippr]

Excessive cortisol production will take time off your clock.
Strive for chill.

Cheers! ("Serenity Now" )

 

[Schlenkerla]

Excessive cortisol production will take time off your clock.
Strive for chill.

Cheers! ("Serenity Now" )

... Or Batschït Crazy!!!

 

[6Tap]

Just use best practices during the brewing process and then add gelatin during cold crash and we can all be happy...[emoji85]

 

[Schlenkerla]

Just use best practices during the brewing process and then add gelatin during cold crash and we can all be happy...[emoji85]

Problem is Millennials don't like Jell-O.....

 

[6Tap]

Problem is Millennials don't like Jell-O.....

Shhhh, no one needs to know. [emoji482]

 

[Qhrumphf]

Just use best practices during the brewing process and then add gelatin during cold crash and we can all be happy...[emoji85]

Cool story.

Except as has been said in this thread, and has been emperically proven, clarifying strips out hop character.

The guys who cheat to get haze or have technical problems usually make sh** NEIPA anyway. Unconverted starch ain't gonna taste right. The good ones require sound practice. It ain't laziness.

I will take a hazy beer with juicy bouquet any day than the same beer losing its edge when fuged and filtered just to appease a few fundamentalists.

 

[6Tap]

Cool story.

Except as has been said in this thread, and has been emperically proven, clarifying strips out hop character.

The guys who cheat to get haze or have technical problems usually make sh** NEIPA anyway. Unconverted starch ain't gonna taste right. The good ones require sound practice. It ain't laziness.

I will take a hazy beer with juicy bouquet any day than the same beer losing its edge when fuged and filtered just to appease a few fundamentalists.

I’m not sure I believe u.
Please send me a case of beer to evaluate so I can determine what you are stating is correct.
[emoji482]

 

[applescrap]

Wow, I can actually agree with you on something. I like how you stated the part about sound practice. The stouts and sours from weldwerks, one of our best neipa makers, are also awesome. I have found this true of other brands that make good neipa, their other beers are good too. I have seen posts of treehouse stouts and I would be willing to bet they are pretty good.

Cool story.

Except as has been said in this thread, and has been emperically proven, clarifying strips out hop character.

The guys who cheat to get haze or have technical problems usually make sh** NEIPA anyway. Unconverted starch ain't gonna taste right. The good ones require sound practice. It ain't laziness.

I will take a hazy beer with juicy bouquet any day than the same beer losing its edge when fuged and filtered just to appease a few fundamentalists.

 

[Wayne1]

Two recent blog posts by Jeff Alworth on the history of "Juicy" IPAs and a time line comparison of Hazy NE style to West Coast IPA. Very good reads.

https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2019/11/17/the-birth-of-juicy

https://www.beervanablog.com/beervana/2019/11/19/how-east-meets-west

 

[applescrap]

Ugh, look at this shat from a beer I poured today. I think the other ones were clear? Not sure but this is the kind of lack of attention to quality that we can all agree sucks.

 

[Blazinlow86]

Ugh, look at this shat from a beer I poured today. I think the other ones were clear? Not sure but this is the kind of lack of attention to quality that we can all agree sucks.View attachment 654063

What's wrong with it? Looks tasty to me

 

[day_trippr]

"Chunky Style"

 

[Schlenkerla]

"Chunky Style"

Like Minute Maid Orange Juice.

with Pulp and Fortified with Calcium.

 

[day_trippr]

No doubt the BJCP is all over that. I can see it now: "21B-1 New England Chunky Style IPA"...

Cheers! (I think I just threw up in my mouth a little )

 

[Nagorg]

Ugh, look at this shat from a beer I poured today. I think the other ones were clear? Not sure but this is the kind of lack of attention to quality that we can all agree sucks.View attachment 654063

Is that a "Rome City IPA"? The can at the bottom of the pic sure looks like it. And when I had this beer it shat in my glass too!

 

[applescrap]

Yep! Great call. Not terrible for a 6 pack price, but I wont buy it again, thats for sure.

Is that a "Rome City IPA"? The can at the bottom of the pic sure looks like it. And when I had this beer it shat in my glass too!

View attachment 654207

 

[applescrap]

So glad I called them. Super cool guys. They won gabf with that, pretty impressive. They offered to send a sixer right away and I didn't ask for that or anything. He said its an unfortunate part of this recipe, if the beer sits to long that happens. The can was from june. They dont want to change recipe though, cant blaim them after winning gabf. He said their helles won silver this year and another got a bronze. Their response was first class and I will try the helles and have no problem giving a fresh can a try. Super class organization, good on them.

 

[Blazinlow86]

So glad I called them. Super cool guys. They won gabf with that, pretty impressive. They offered to send a sixer right away and I didn't ask for that or anything. He said its an unfortunate part of this recipe, if the beer sits to long that happens. The can was from june. They dont want to change recipe though, cant blaim them after winning gabf. He said their helles won silver this year and another got a bronze. Their response was first class and I will try the helles and have no problem giving a fresh can a try. Super class organization, good on them.

Steam works flagship won best IPA in bc and regularly looks exactly like that. Cheers

 

[whovous]

Just to add a data-point to this conversation: I was in Des Moines over Labor Day. Ordered an "American Pale Ale" at a place, and was served a glass of opaque "juiciness"! No mention in the description of the beer anywhere that this was a "juice bomb".

This is a reason why descriptors exist... if I ordered an IPA five years ago and I was served a beer that looked like a stout or schwarzbier, I would send it back-- oh wait, CDA or Black IPA would have been used to describe it!

Name these beers "juicies" or "sippy cup" or whatever... but let the consumer have an idea of what they are getting into!

I wanted to go back to the source and give credit to your inspiration for my Sippy Cup of Blood milkshake IPA. I like clear IPAs as much as the next guy, but this cloudy mess came out really well! Thank you!

 

[Qhrumphf]

Seemed relevant.

 

[applescrap]

This seemed relevant too!

 

[Jag75]

This seemed relevant too!View attachment 656305

Looks cold outside lol. Was Galaxy the only hops in that beer?