BrunDog 50A eRig - no HLT for me!

[poptarts]

Wicked

 

[JonW]

Latest upgrade: an LED backlight behind the sight glass.

Sweet!

 

[cod3ck]

I'm almost surprised there aren't sight glasses out there that already come with a built in light/switch.

Great idea!

 

[DarkStormBrewing]

http://www.brewershardware.com/TC05FERRULE10FLANGE.html

Found this, ordered 2. Hoping to solder to my stainless CFC that I desoldered the brass 1/2npt fittings from. I'll report back BrunDog

 

[BrunDog]

http://www.brewershardware.com/TC05FERRULE10FLANGE.html

Found this, ordered 2. Hoping to solder to my stainless CFC that I desoldered the brass 1/2npt fittings from. I'll report back BrunDog

Nice! I look forward to your report. This looks good but I would prefer a shorter stem so you could make bends tighter. Also, 1/2" and 5/8" ID options so you could use larger tubing.

 

[crane]

Nice! I look forward to your report. This looks good but I would prefer a shorter stem so you could make bends tighter. Also, 1/2" and 5/8" ID options so you could use larger tubing.

What about buying a TC cap like this and drilling a hole that is the size of the OD of the tubing you are trying to solder to it? Shove the tube in the hole and solder it.

https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/tc15bc.htm

 

[BrunDog]

Ya, that would work, as long as the hole is properly drilled. So for DIY, this is a good option, especially as it would allow the solder to flow through across the whole interface. It would be important to make sure there is no open gaps for junk to hide on the inside face, so a little overflow and a little light smoothing would be good. This would also allow for a quick tubing bend right away, as JonW pointed out.

Would be nice to have these off the shelf. Bobby, whatcha say?

 

[DarkStormBrewing]

The ferrules/1.5 triclamp I linked above fit perfectly inside my CFC! First time silver solder, thanks Bobby.

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[BrunDog]

Nice!!! Like a dummy I was thinking you would need the pipe to slide INTO the ferrule. No reason the ferrule couldn't slide INTO the pipe. The only concern would be to make sure there is full solder contact. In this configuration you cannot see solder on both sides, but it looks like you correctly did not insert it too deep.

 

[BrunDog]

Minor DIY project... I use Speidel fermenters in an upright freezer controlled by STC-1000. I never thought it would be a good idea to put a thermowell into the fermenter for fear of cleaning headaches and contamination. I have always used a cheapo plastic water bottle with the STC temp probe in it to measure temperature. Worked easy enough but not very refined. Time for improvement.

Grabbed a sparkling cider bottle, a stopper, and a 1/4" thermowell from Bobby. Cut the thermowell down with a grinder, and inserted deep it into the bottle filled with water. It's in the fridge acclimating but tomorrow it will get the probe. I am know this is nothing new but sharing anyway.


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[canmorebrewguy]

1. I determined early on that I wanted to minimize hardware and leverage some control from automation. This certainly isn't at the level of full automation of many high-end builds on this forum, but I wanted something at reasonable cost/size. I realized I could eliminate the HLT and just use the RIMS tube for heating strike and sparge water. This allowed for a smaller footprint and an off-the-shelf stand. I live in FL, where a basement brewery is not possible, so this was built to reside in my garage. I wanted this to be portable, so a cart design was selected. Luckily my electric panel is in my garage, so I installed a 50A outlet to power this (justified by potential for electric car charging in the future). The kettles are cheap Bayou’s. The MLT has a Norcal false bottom and a Loc Line sparge ring. The BK has a ripple element, a BrewPi element enclosure, and whirlpool arm, a DIY trub dam, and a borosilicate sight glass.

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2. As mentioned, I wanted to have a good controller. I researched many different homegrown options, initially planning on using a USB data acquisition board and writing my own interface, but ultimately decided I couldn't pump the time into it, and an off the shelf option would fit the bill. The BCS is a solid device at low cost, and the support is reasonable. The biggest problem is the NTC thermistors it uses (not RTD's which are more accurate and more common of most PIDs). I did not like the hardware probes that BCS offered, so I ordered Auber's probes for the RIMS TC end cap, the BK, and the MLT and chiller ports, and I replaced the RTD's inside with high quality thermistors.
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Hello Brundog,
What thermistors did you use and where did you purchase?
Cheers,
Todd

 

[TylerAI]

Latest upgrade: an LED backlight behind the sight glass. I bought this LED: https://www.adafruit.com/products/1626 and installed it there to provide light during whirlpool, oxygenation, and fermenter transfer.

Soldered in a 1500 ohm resistor to wire this to the same 24VDC which powers the valve which allows flow through the chiller/oxygenation circuit:
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Then installed it behind the sight glass:
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Looking forward to trying it out!

You have got to post pictures of this in use..

 

[BrunDog]

Hello Brundog,
What thermistors did you use and where did you purchase?
Cheers,
Todd

Hi Todd,

Got these Cantherm high tolerance (0.5%) pieces from DigiKey: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MF51E103E3950/317-1305-ND/1191080

Very small, easy to wire. Note that the wires look like wires but are coated for insulation and need to be cleaned at the ends before soldering in.

-BD

 

[BrunDog]

You have got to post pictures of this in use..

I will take a pic on my next brew. I may do a brew day video just for kicks, so will include there.

One thing I forgot to mention is that it is wired to the valves that feed the chillers, so it doesn't light unless there is fluid flowing through it - will help as a "reminder" light what state the valve is in.

 

[BrunDog]

Minor upgrade... got the plastic clean in place ball to replace the simple sprinkler head. This is from McMaster Carr and was originally demonstrated by an online video that Joe Fisher posted a while back. It is not inexpensive for what it is, but is certainly works well enough. I will upgrade the BK side as well.

I don't know how to embed YouTube video here, so if anyone can tell me, it would be appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/yzY7CMm2uRY

 

[BrunDog]

Hi all,

I did a video covering a brew day on my system this weekend. By no means is there any production quality to the video, and somehow it came out to 45 mins of my monotone dialogue, but you can get the crux of the system handling a brew nonetheless. Feedback appreciated!

https://youtu.be/bxUSwpv2H-s

 

[JonW]

Good vid! I don't have 45 minutes to watch it right now, but I did skim through it. What would be nice is if you created a little topic index with the time locations noted. It would make a good reference for people to check out when they had a question about a specific part of your build.

e.g.
4:20 Water Manifold
5:06 Rear Control Panel
5:55 Dual power RIMS description
6:25 Ipad Control Panel

 

[HarpuaScorpio]

I can't believe I watched that whole thing. Great video! I'm glad that you took the trouble to film this because, honestly, your build is so intricate that it's been hard to keep up with everything you add. Incredible!

 

[jcav]

Absolutely amazing. Top notch all the way! I really get your system now and how it works, and all the work that went into creating it. I watched the whole vid and all I can say is you are a class act and so is your brew rig!

Cheers

John

 

[BrunDog]

Thanks guys. I find my own voice puts me to sleep, but appreciate the positive feedback!

Good idea JonW, I will add an index.

 

[JonW]

Thanks guys. I find my own voice puts me to sleep, but appreciate the positive feedback!

Good idea JonW, I will add an index.

LOL, I feel the same way when I hear myself!

When I get time, I think I'll follow your lead here and do a walk through on my system.

 

[poptarts]

cleaning cycles, look at you mr fancy over there. I might have to do a video too. and make a cleaning cycle.

 

[BrunDog]

... and do a walk through on my system.

How about just putting up some looks at that new system to start!

cleaning cycles, look at you mr fancy over there. I might have to do a video too. and make a cleaning cycle.

Well, call me fancy or not... but cleaning blows. So if I can shortcut it, damn right I will! Also, PBW is wondrous stuff, so why would I bother scrubbing?!?

 

[jcav]

Wish I had a cleaning cycle on mine, that would be awesome........I'm totally envious!! The only cleaning cycle I have is if one of my sons comes over for a visit on brew day and I hand them the garden hose!

John

 

[BrunDog]

Not gonna lie... It makes life much easier! I do have a slight problem where water somehow leaks past the lids. Clamping them down helps but I think repositioning the heads lower will help. Baby steps like everything else....

 

[cowboy1]

Great job on the system and really nice work on the video. I know you have spent a lot of time in your design and build of this system. It is amazing what lengths people go to to make beer. I have been working on mine for a year and a half nothing as elaborate as this. I hope to run 1st water batch Sunday... Very anxious. Anyhow great work and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,

David

 

[bayoujeeper]

Brun,
Maybe I missed it in the thread, where did you get the CIP heads from? Are you driving them with the march/chuggers?

 

[BrunDog]

Hi. These are from McMaster Carr. Rotating drum cleaner, about $50 each.

 

[bayoujeeper]

Thanks! No separate pump? Running then with your March pumps?

 

[BrunDog]

Ya, running from the chuggers. I saw a video where Joe Fisher tested this sprayer, and it worked well, so I gave it a shot. Definitely works well for a kettle.

 

[RocketBrewer]

I intended to just check out a few minutes of your video, ended up watching the whole thing! Just mesmerized by that system, AMAZING BUILD!

 

[BrunDog]

Thanks guys. The big question is... What's my next upgrade? I will be doing the built in RasberryPi / touchscreen but then what?

 

[RocketBrewer]

I don't know... Make some beer?

 

[cod3ck]

That setup is awesome!

I dunno, you could fancy up the UI on the iPad controller if you're into that kind of thing (and it's even possible)?

 

[Tularac]

Very well thought out and well documented.

Thank you for sharing.

 

[Rondacker]

I just watched the brew day demo video, and just read this thread for a second time. That's one outstanding system! You thought of everything, and executed it with fantastic craftsmanship! Kudos!
And, no, your voice didn't put me to sleep!

 

[iijakii]

Thanks guys. The big question is... What's my next upgrade? I will be doing the built in RasberryPi / touchscreen but then what?

In a few month's you'll find something to be unhappy about, sell and rebuild.

 

[JonW]

In a few month's you'll find something to be unhappy about, sell and rebuild.

LOL, that's what I did!

 

[iijakii]

Yeah I've done it twice, lol.

 

[ChocolateMaltyBalls]

It's all about the journey...