☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[jimyson]

looks like i might have come across a mazzer mini with a $225 asking price. If I end up with it, it's all your fault, @jimmyson.

I run a project management office for an IT services organization so getting blamed for things is a daily occurrence. I’ll add this to the list. [emoji23]

Hopefully your mini will be in better shape than my SJ. I also can’t recommend dismantling the whole thing either. Damn this has been an experience so far.

Luckily, everything on my end is dismantled! I received a quote of $75 to send the body and base to the powder coater. Hopefully I will have time to drop it off next week. I have some time before I get delivery of the doserless components from Mazzer so I guess I’m in no rush.

 

[TallDan]

I run a project management office for an IT services organization so getting blamed for things is a daily occurrence. I’ll add this to the list. [emoji23]

And I’m an IT consultant so it came pretty naturally to blame the PM. I can’t even add that to today’s list, I’m sure I blamed a PM for something today.

 

[jimyson]

And I’m an IT consultant so it came pretty naturally to blame the PM. I can’t even add that to today’s list, I’m sure I blamed a PM for something today.

So you’ll rush into your grinder project with no planning and blame me for your mistakes. Makes perfect sense!

[emoji16]

 

[TallDan]

So you’ll rush into your grinder project with no planning and blame me for your mistakes. Makes perfect sense!

[emoji16]

I don’t even understand the scope or requirements but started anyway. You’re too late to even ask me to plan. Now you’re coming in and trying to slow my progress. Would you make yourself useful and ask the customer for more budget and a deadline extension? I can’t explain the reason for either one coherently, so they will almost certainly get angry with you about it.

 

[jimyson]

I don’t even understand the scope or requirements but started anyway. You’re too late to even ask me to plan. Now you’re coming in and trying to slow my progress. Would you make yourself useful and ask the customer for more budget and a deadline extension? I can’t explain the reason for either one coherently, so they will almost certainly get angry with you about it.

If it didn’t pain me so much to laugh, I would.

 

[jimyson]

I’m rethinking the color black. It’s tough choosing something else. What would each of you choose if you had the chance?

http://www.ralcolor.com/

 

[passedpawn]

I’m rethinking the color black. It’s tough choosing something else. What would each of you choose if you had the chance?

http://www.ralcolor.com/

I didn't look at that site, but I'd go with the color of a dark coffee bean. You know, dark brown, chocolate brown. Light colors would be a mess around coffee grounds.

 

[jimyson]

My original thought was a matte or semi gloss black but I’m getting persuaded away from that. It won’t be on the counter when not in use so the sky is the limit. I like the Pantone colors better than RAL.

http://www.americanpowder.com/site...les/data-sheet-pdfs/Pantone Color-Chart 2.pdf

 

[applescrap]

@jimyson Man I'm enjoying your rebuild and remain very impressed with your skills. Btw I play chess too and have been wanting to play with you guys, what site is that. I think whatever color you want is key. I mean if you want to paint that thing tie dyed or whatever then as long as it suits you it will be great. Tie-dyed would look weird in my house but not my friends. Send in the lapavoni gear too sure. That would look pretty sweet and you'll be glad you did I'm guessing. Although the stainless steel look is nice as well imo.


@jammin man I want to be in so bad, but that description says dried fruit and chocolate. It's a given that this is an amazing quality coffee but I really like something there to cling on to. A strong blueberry taste or something. I don't know if I would rather have konga or reach out to this. I still have a few pounds of konga. Have all their other coffees been amazeballs? I have no problem with the price I just want a distinct cup of coffee. I have never had Yemen so I don't know what they are like.

Ok, im in. Pm sent. Thanks.

 

[Inkleg]

I’m rethinking the color black. It’s tough choosing something else. What would each of you choose if you had the chance?

http://www.ralcolor.com/

I'd go RAL 4003 Heather Violet or RAL 6038 Luminous Green with RAL 1016 Sulfur Yellow flames and that puppy would live on the counter for all to see.

 

[jammin]

@jimyson

I like the Luminous Green as well. I've seen a few of these projects & the bright colors are really neat.

I thought for a more subdued effect the Emerald Green RAL 6001 would be nice if you didn't want to wear sunglasses while you make coffee. I'll add Ruby Red RAL 3003 to the list as well.

For a more classic look, White looks good on a grinder. It somehow goes with the chrome on the doser funnel. Traffic White RAL 9016 or Papyrus White RAL 9018 would be cool.


Also - one accessory worth picking up is a dosing funnel. OE makes a nice one but there are a lot of options out there.

 

[jimyson]

@jimyson Man I'm enjoying your rebuild and remain very impressed with your skills. Btw I play chess too and have been wanting to play with you guys, what site is that. I think whatever color you want is key. I mean if you want to paint that thing tie dyed or whatever then as long as it suits you it will be great. Tie-dyed would look weird in my house but not my friends. Send in the lapavoni gear too sure. That would look pretty sweet and you'll be glad you did I'm guessing. Although the stainless steel look is nice as well imo.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. I still need to put it back together.

Chess.com. I have the same username there. Shoot me a game request when you're all setup.

I'd go RAL 4003 Heather Violet or RAL 6038 Luminous Green with RAL 1016 Sulfur Yellow flames and that puppy would live on the counter for all to see.

I don't think I will be doing Heather Violet any time soon. I have been eyeing the Luminous Green though.

@jimyson
For a more classic look, White looks good on a grinder. It somehow goes with the chrome on the doser funnel. Traffic White RAL 9016 or Papyrus White RAL 9018 would be cool.

Also - one accessory worth picking up is a dosing funnel. OE makes a nice one but there are a lot of options out there.

Well, I don't have the doser and will be converting to doserless with the Mazzer parts. They should arrive in 4-6 weeks. Factory built back plate, spout holder, and spout. It makes it harder to clean the output of the grinder throat, but as you can see, there is a cake decorating tool on top to push air in and remove left over grinds. I won't be using the hopper and will be putting a tamper in the throat for single dose grinding.

As for the dosing funnel. Yes! I have been eying those too. Along with possible shower screen and portafilter basket upgrades for the La Pavoni.

You guys aren't making this any easier to pick a color.

 

[TallDan]

You guys aren't making this any easier to pick a color.

Sounds like you should skip the powder-coat and paint it yourself then. Change color with the seasons.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

I like Emerald Green (something slightly retro, which I like) and I'm a big fan of white on something like this. If you get a chance to make it unique, why not something different, you know? I'm a huge fan of matte black, but that seems to be fairly common on grinders.

Is there a reason you're going to the trouble of having it powder coated, or is it just more for aesthetics/fun? Just curious; I've never thought about it before.

 

[TallDan]

Hmm, yeah, retro.

Go avocado or harvest gold!

 

[TallDan]

Anyone here happen to see this yesterday and jump on it?

http://www.greencoffeebuyingclub.com/index.php?topic=21089.0

I didn't see it until this morning and it was already sold out. Tempted to try some if more becomes available.

EDIT: and now i see that he has another bag.
$20/lb is expensive, but I feel like i need to try a Blue Mountain.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

I struggle with peaberries so I have just given them up entirely. That's still pretty pricey for an "89" rated coffee, whatever it's worth.

I had a shot of JBM at Eataly in Chicago and it was absolutely delicious, though.

 

[Inkleg]

Hmm, yeah, retro.

Go avocado or harvest gold!

My beer fridge in the garage is the original avocado green one that was in the kitchen when I bought my house in 86. It might not be the most efficient, but it just keeps chugging along.

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

Lately I've been on a kick for beat up, high quality old stuff (high quality being the key). The nice thing is, if it works fine it's depreciated about as much as it is going to and I don't have to worry about keeping it clean and spotless. Something nice about getting something well worn and used, makes me feel like it's well broken in and doesn't need to be babied.

At least this has been the logic I've applied for guitars, guitar equipment, coffee equipment, bikes, tools, and whatnot. Grinders definitely fit my style for getting something well used and worn in.

 

[TallDan]

Lately I've been on a kick for beat up, high quality old stuff (high quality being the key). The nice thing is, if it works fine it's depreciated about as much as it is going to and I don't have to worry about keeping it clean and spotless. Something nice about getting something well worn and used, makes me feel like it's well broken in and doesn't need to be babied.

At least this has been the logic I've applied for guitars, guitar equipment, coffee equipment, bikes, tools, and whatnot. Grinders definitely fit my style for getting something well used and worn in.

Well then, you might be interested in this if i don't go for it:
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/bfs/6590001103.html
I mentioned this the other day. In the picture with several grinders, the one on the left certainly looks like a mazzer mini to me. The seller doesn't seem to have a clue about grinders, they're a used restaurant/bakery equipment outfit. I asked twice in email if it works and what the brand/model of it is, and the reply both times along the lines of "yes, works, at 115 power its a commercial unit,"

 

[jimyson]

Is there a reason you're going to the trouble of having it powder coated, or is it just more for aesthetics/fun? Just curious; I've never thought about it before.

I'm going this route to create longevity in the coat. I'm investing enough time and money into a solid commercial grinder to think that this will be my only grinder for some time. I am not looking to revisit this again in the near term. This is why I'm also replacing the bearings, which didn't need replacing but for the additional investment, it'll be worth it to not have to do it again for quite a while.

In addition, having a durable and perfectly done coating to the grinder will look better and last longer than any spray application.

It's also enjoyable to tear something down, rehab it, and get it all back to pristine condition. Consider it a bonus to the hobby.

 

[jimyson]

@jammin

What would the difference be between https://www.levercraft.com/new-products-1/super-jolly-ssp-red-speed-burrs and https://www.verybarista.com/mazzerjollyred

 

[HarborTownBrewing]

@jimyson yeah that makes sense - definitely increases durability and you'll have that thing forever. When you decide to sell it in 20 years, look me up

@TallDan that looks like it could be a good find, but hard to say what they'd charge for it. The Faema price seems pretty comparable to what I'd seen on the market when I was shopping, so I wonder what they'd ask for that Mazzer.

 

[TallDan]

@TallDan that looks like it could be a good find, but hard to say what they'd charge for it. The Faema price seems pretty comparable to what I'd seen on the market when I was shopping, so I wonder what they'd ask for that Mazzer.

$225 is what he said, but his communication is unclear enough that I don't think I'd really know unless i go there.

 

[jimyson]

More plain coffee to keep the wife happy. It’s a necessity with all the hobbies that I maintain.

 

[jammin]

@jammin

What would the difference be between https://www.levercraft.com/new-products-1/super-jolly-ssp-red-speed-burrs and https://www.verybarista.com/mazzerjollyred

Its probably worth defining what Red Speed is: a coating. It's from Aluminum Titanium Nitride or something like that. It's good for reducing static (huge plus for single dose & direct to portafilter grinding) & increasing lifespan of burrs.

The SSP Red Speeds obviously have a significantly different geometry than the Very Barista set that has Red Speed coating. Knowing how much research goes into SSP, I wouldn't even consider anything else. The field reports Ive read all talk about how the results in the cup are improved by switching from stock to SSP burrs.

The link you posted appears to have the latest configuration/geometry for the 64mm Mazzer Super Jolly compatible burrs with Red Speed coating. I think you'd be VERY happy them.

Maybe try going straight to the source & ask what's new? See if they can sell you set with the specs you want. I think they usually want a bulk order but you might get some good info at least.

 

[jimyson]

Its probably worth defining what Red Speed is: a coating. It's from Aluminum Titanium Nitride or something like that. It's good for reducing static (huge plus for single dose & direct to portafilter grinding) & increasing lifespan of burrs.

The SSP Red Speeds obviously have a significantly different geometry than the Very Barista set that has Red Speed coating. Knowing how much research goes into SSP, I wouldn't even consider anything else. The field reports Ive read all talk about how the results in the cup are improved by switching from stock to SSP burrs.

The link you posted appears to have the latest configuration/geometry for the 64mm Mazzer Super Jolly compatible burrs with Red Speed coating. I think you'd be VERY happy them.

Maybe try going straight to the source & ask what's new? See if they can sell you set with the specs you want. I think they usually want a bulk order but you might get some good info at least.

I did email and didn’t get a response. I’ll see how I can track them down. Thanks for the explanation, thats helpful.

Dinner helped us choose a color.

 

[Inkleg]

Dinner helped us choose a color.

Nice.
With Sulfur Yellow flames?

 

[applescrap]

Orange you glad to have chosen! Sry, couldn't help myself.

So much to think about and enjoy here today. If you haven't watched that show American Restoration @jimyson, you will love it. I'm guessing you've watched it. I love this kind of work too and would love to do that for a living. However, when it comes to doing that at my house I'm impatient, rush, and smash things like Hulk.

I like retro things to, mostly because I want nice stuff and can't afford it new. I think all my speakers and my two cars are from 98 or 99. 98, 99, and 2000 seem like sweet years for about everything. The 99 Camry and the 98 4Runner are pretty boss. The 98 Bowers & Wilkins speakers are too. The new 802 speakers are 22,000 for the pair so yeah, not much option with getting retro verse new

 

[jimyson]

Orange you glad to have chosen! Sry, couldn't help myself.

So much to think about and enjoy here today. If you haven't watched that show American Restoration @jimyson, you will love it. I'm guessing you've watched it. I love this kind of work too and would love to do that for a living. However, when it comes to doing that at my house I'm impatient, rush, and smash things like Hulk.

I like retro things to, mostly because I want nice stuff and can't afford it new. I think all my speakers and my two cars are from 98 or 99. 98, 99, and 2000 seem like sweet years for about everything. The 99 Camry and the 98 4Runner are pretty boss. The 98 Bowers & Wilkins speakers are too. The new 802 speakers are 22,000 for the pair so yeah, not much option with getting retro verse new

I think I have seen that show, yes. I don’t get around to watching too much tv though. That is, unless it’s a kid show. Lately, I find myself browsing the web reading about SJ rehabs when not working or tending to a wife and 3 young children.

$22k for a pair of home loudspeakers?! I can’t imagine that my ears would be able to really heat the difference between that and say a $2k pair.