☕ Coffee ☕: Ingredients, Roasting, Grinding, Brewing, and Tasting

[jammin]

$140 is a great price! Standard tampers are 58mm. I have some extra 6” acid brushes if you want one for brushing out the grinder throat.

 

[jimyson]

$140 is a great price! Standard tampers are 58mm. I have some extra 6” acid brushes if you want one for brushing out the grinder throat.

So this is what I’m talking about. Is this a 58mm tamp?

The postage would cost more than the brushes. [emoji23]

I tell you what, I’ve wanted to see if someone else can roast this guatemala that I have and not get that cardboard flavor. I tried a fast roast last week and still sense it. If you send me your address, I’ll send some roasted and some green beans that you can roast and tell me if I’m doing something wrong. At that point, you’ll have my return address to send a brush or two if you’d like. What do you say?

 

[TallDan]

Very nice score there. I find myself looking for a deal on a mazzer every year or two. A super jolly was also the first burr grinder I had, unfortunately it was damaged in shipping and I sent it back for a refund.

 

[jimyson]

Very nice score there. I find myself looking for a deal on a mazzer every year or two. A super jolly was also the first burr grinder I had, unfortunately it was damaged in shipping and I sent it back for a refund.

This thing has definitely had its share of bumps and bruises but I think I can clean it up and have a consistent grinder for a fraction of the cost. It’ll help me get some better shots from the La Pavoni as well.

 

[TallDan]

This thing has definitely had its share of bumps and bruises but I think I can clean it up and have a consistent grinder for a fraction of the cost. It’ll help me get some better shots from the La Pavoni as well.

The one I had had it's share of bumps and bruises before it was shipped to me, but was supposedly in working condition. It was on ebay and the seller did not adequately pack it for shipping. When it arrived, the box was nearly destoyed. It had clearly been dropped from a decent height in such a way that the grinder landed upside down on top of the cord. The cord was severed in two and the adjustment would not budge because it was bent. I would have tried to fix it if the seller would agree to a partial refund, but they wanted me to either keep it or send it back to them for a full refund.

Now to go off and look at mazzer minis...

 

[jimyson]

And the tear down begins. Damn this thing is dirty.

 

[Paulaner]

And the tear down begins. Damn this thing is dirty.

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It's dirty for sure, but the burrs still appear to be in good shape. Also, are you sure you want to go doserless? I was in the same boat as you a few years back, I went with a smaller hopper and doserless and after a few weeks put all the originals back together and haven't looked back since. Still to this day I measure out 19g of coffee beans and use the original hopper and doser and wouldn't change a thing.

 

[TallDan]

It's dirty for sure, but the burrs still appear to be in good shape. Also, are you sure you want to go doserless? I was in the same boat as you a few years back, I went with a smaller hopper and doserless and after a few weeks put all the originals back together and haven't looked back since. Still to this day I measure out 19g of coffee beans and use the original hopper and doser and wouldn't change a thing.

Always seems like a doser would get in the way, but I've never used one.

 

[jimyson]

My concern is that the doser will need a tear down everyday to keep it clean and fresh. I’m not running that much coffee through it.

 

[jimyson]

I’ll add that the burrs still feel sharp, however, I’m looking at sending them out to SSP Grind Service. They do a sharpen and coating of existing burrs provided they have enough meat.

 

[jimyson]

Trying to wrap my brain around this, @jammin

https://www.home-barista.com/grinders/what-does-single-dosing-lose-t12652.html

 

[passedpawn]

Just wanted to post that scrappy sent me some blueberry bomb. I sense that it was roasted a little longer than I usually do, but man the berries just pop.

Scrap, what was that bean?

 

[applescrap]

Thanks for the kind words. That was konga. I have been roasting it too dark lately and it has not had the fruit flavors, but still tastes like a quality cup of coffee. Glad to hear the blueberry is still in it and that you are enjoying it. This guat had some nice fruit notes and was solid. At the same price of the better Ethiopians you would have to really love the style I think to buy it.

@jimyson love the new gear and am jealous. I like how you dive right in and start cleaning up. 140 is a killer deal.

 

[applescrap]

Oops, srry

 

[jammin]

Trying to wrap my brain around this, @jammin

https://www.home-barista.com/grinders/what-does-single-dosing-lose-t12652.html

Are you wondering about why you have to adjust grind setting for single dosing vs. hopper fed? I haven't heard a definitive answer not that but it's certainly true. IIRC you always adjust finer for single dosing. It's a been a looonngggg time since Ive used a hopper for espresso but i do remember for sure that the grind setting changed going back & forth.

Some folks have said that using the hopper yields a better grind vs. single dosing. Years ago when I experimented with it I thought maybe there was something too that but it's just not worth it. Single dosing saves you a ton of coffee & makes things so much more simple in a home setting.

 

[jimyson]

Are you wondering about why you have to adjust grind setting for single dosing vs. hopper fed? I haven't heard a definitive answer not that but it's certainly true. IIRC you always adjust finer for single dosing. It's a been a looonngggg time since Ive used a hopper for espresso but i do remember for sure that the grind setting changed going back & forth.

Some folks have said that using the hopper yields a better grind vs. single dosing. Years ago when I experimented with it I thought maybe there was something too that but it's just not worth it. Single dosing saves you a ton of coffee & makes things so much more simple in a home setting.

No, rather how the perceived mouthfeel and taste could be negatively impacted by a single dose in the grinder throat using a tamper as a lid. This is likely related to hopper vs no hopper and grind quality.

I’m thinking that this inferiority could be such a small impact to the normal drinker, under most circumstances, and by using a single dose the benefit of using less beans and beans not left in a hopper for days would be superior based on those factors.

It’s quite interesting to think about potential impact based on the weight on the beans going into the burrs and the freedom in which they can popcorn. So many factors in this game.

 

[jammin]

OK, I'm track'n now.

Single dosing in no way produces inferior coffee. That thread is from 2009 & the thoughts on that are completely outdated. I remember there being fierce debates about it though. During that time the TGP (Titan Grinder Project) ruled the land & it was thought that large conical grinders produced best espresso & folks stated that hopper feeding the grinder made better coffee. A key argument was that the grind size changed if you left the adjustment collar static & switched between single dosing & a full hopper. Folks came up with all kinds of wonky ways to make mini-hoppers to approximate the weight on the beans of a full commercial hopper and things just generally got a little weird. Google Titan Grinder Project & check out the multiple threads on it... ill see you in a few days when you come out the other end of the rabbit hole.

In any case, nobody subscribes to that anymore & single dosing is widely accepted the best method for the home barista. I will say the large conical still is considered to be an EXCELLENT espresso grinder. I pulled 2 shots today so far - 1 on my 75mm flat & the other on my 68mm conical. Both were single dosed & both were great!

 

[jammin]

Quick batch of Konga this afternoon. I'm looking forward to sprucing the battle station up a bit with some doors & conduit for the wiring.

 

[jimyson]

Quick batch of Konga this afternoon. I'm looking forward to sprucing the battle station up a bit with some doors & conduit for the wiring.

You forgot to tell us what you were drinking. [emoji6]

 

[TallDan]

Just got done roasting my last half pound of konga to drink this week. Had a good run with that 5lb.

 

[jammin]

You forgot to tell us what you were drinking. [emoji6]

Home-brew IPA! All the cliche ingredients - Conan, Citra, Mosaic, Oats blah blah hipster blah

 

[jimyson]

Who brought the cool kid? Sounds delicious .

 

[jimyson]

Lower burr holder off. Yuk! Waiting until daylight to pop the motor out. At that point it’ll be ready to clean up and send out to the powder coater.

 

[passedpawn]

Home-brew IPA! All the cliche ingredients - Conan, Citra, Mosaic, Oats blah blah hipster blah

You should check out one of those brewing forums.

I've got a pound of Mosaic in the freezer that I might use this upcoming weekend.

 

[jammin]

I ordered a box of fresh Yemen from the Crown. It’s expwnsive, but worthwhile Yemen coffee is. I can cut loose 3, 5lbs bags for $55 each shipped. PM me if you want one.

https://royalcoffee.com/products/cj1198/

 

[jimyson]

Hopefully my stator comes out!! 30 mins @ 200F.

Boy, those different profiles and write ups that they do @jammin are awesome. If I wasn’t so invested...

Good news is that I ordered a bunch of **** for this grinder. Nachi upper and lower bearings, new feet, adjustment ring pin, timer plate, and......parts from Mazzer to make it doserless!!!

Also have a quote request out to a local powder coater to do the body, base, and tamper. I’m thinking matte black. I’m really close to ripping the base, water sight glass cover, and lever off the La Pavoni to send with it to get matching colors.

 

[passedpawn]

Also have a quote request out to a local powder coater to do the body, base, and tamper. I’m thinking matte black.

Sounds like a good plan, but if it were mine I'd disassembly completely, wirebrush/degrease the exterior, and spray myself. If you want matte black, Rustoleum black chalk board paint is pretty cool. Leaves a nice texture. Many other options there.

 

[jimyson]

Sounds like a good plan, but if it were mine I'd disassembly completely, wirebrush/degrease the exterior, and spray myself. If you want matte black, Rustoleum black chalk board paint is pretty cool. Leaves a nice texture. Many other options there.

I’m hoping it will cost me under $100 to powder coat which will get me a lifetime.

Boom!!

 

[TallDan]

looks like i might have come across a mazzer mini with a $225 asking price. If I end up with it, it's all your fault, @jimmyson.

 

[Inkleg]

looks like i might have come across a mazzer mini with a $225 asking price. If I end up with it, it's all your fault, @jimmyson.

Everyone on here is an enabler. Which gives you the excuse that it's not your fault.
I'm Still eyeballing a Mill City roaster.