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A dissolved oxygen meter bargain 40 bucks, brand new. Just got to work out how and what to use it for.
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You can use this to check oxygenation of beer at yeast pitch, where you are looking for 10 - 12 mg/L (ppm) O2 (IIRC.) But, it is not useful for fermented beer where you are looking for 0.1 mg/l, or less. The stated accuracy (from the Amazon listing) is: "Accuracy: ±0.4mg/L." For finished beer, you need an accuracy of about 0.01 mg/L, or better.

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@doug293cz
Thank you for that. Yes it's parts per million accuracy not billions as would be needed for finished beer. It's always been guesswork for me with the aeration stone and oxygen cylinder so that is a great idea.
With my closed end of ferment and closed transfer into late ferment purged kegs I'm likely to get a consistent reading of 0 or 0.4 mg/L.
Thank you again.
 
Not beer related but one of my other hobbies can't wait to get in to this. Please note the carboy in the upper left hand corner though lol.
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After oxidizing a batch of competition beer due to splash caused by stiff tubing
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Silicone is the absolute worst tubing material for preventing oxygen diffusion from the air into the beer/wort inside.

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Why is silicone so bad for preventing oxygenation?

It is permeable, all rubberized tubing has a diffusion factor which allows gas to travel through the tube wall. While it easily retains liquids, the tubing has a slow rate of diffusion allowing O2 to enter.

Even barrier bottle caps have a low rate of diffusion, gas is always trying to reach equilibrium and will migrate.
 
Thank you for that info.

If ALL rubberized tubing allows gas to pass (lol... sorry...) is silicon worse than other materials? I'm asking because I have always liked silicone and used it for not shedding plasticisers, and it's ability to last and last.
 
Thank you for that info.

If ALL rubberized tubing allows gas to pass (lol... sorry...) is silicon worse than other materials? I'm asking because I have always liked silicone and used it for not shedding plasticisers, and it's ability to last and last.
Yes, silicon is the worst. It's diffusion coefficient for O2 is 10 - 100 X higher than other common polymers.

It's ok for plumbing for wort (unless you are going full LoDO), but should not be used with finished beer, especially hoppy beers.

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Silicone is the absolute worst tubing material for preventing oxygen diffusion from the air into the beer/wort inside.

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Well damn! The tubing I had used had gotten out of position then basically made a fountain in the bottling bucket. Running some beer through silicon, but without splashing shouldn’t be nearly as bad. (I hope) I do thank you for sharing the information.
 
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Well damn! The tubing I had used had gotten out of position then basically made a fountain in the bottling bucket. Running some beer through silicon, but without splashing shouldn’t be nearly as bad. (I hope) I do thank you for sharing the information.
Yes, even the worst tubing is better than a fountain.

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If ALL rubberized tubing allows gas to pass (lol... sorry...) is silicon worse than other materials? I'm asking because I have always liked silicone and used it for not shedding plasticisers, and it's ability to last and last.

This data table suggests silicone is ~130x more permeable to oxygen than polyethylene, and this article (worth a read) has polyethylene 80x more permeable than barrier beer line.

So yeah, silicone is fine for wort but barrier beer line is worth it for serving beer - if you can find it, Malt Miller is about the only place that has it in retail quantities in the UK.
 
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