real vs fake pizza toppings

[fluketamer]

what do you consider real vs fake pizza toppings:

real: peperoni, mushroom, peppers and onions, white , unfortunately although no-one really likes em . anchovies are a real topping. , meatball if you must, i may have forgotten others.

fake : any type of pasta, HAM and PINAPPLE, ceasars salad - wtf, phily cheesesteak pizza - no. and that thing they call vegetable pizza which is really just when someone drags your slice through the garden. chicken unfortunately is not a real pizza topping. i think rays in the city is responsible for a lot of these mistakes. oh i almost forgot . bacon which is the greatest food of all time does NOT belong on a pizza. its prolly the only thing that bacon shouldn't be on. i guess at the most pancetta or guanciale. but only if you are in italy.

what do you consider legit vs BS pizza toppings. sorry work is killing me again today.

 

[lumpher]

Ham, jalapeño, onions, yes. Don't like pepperoni (greasy shoe leather), mushrooms, anchovies, pineapple pizza are cardinal sins, bacon and chicken are good but NOT on pizza.

 

[mac_1103]

fake : ...HAM...

Hey now. Prosciutto is a type of ham.

 

[fluketamer]

Ham, jalapeño, onions, yes. Don't like pepperoni (greasy shoe leather), mushrooms, anchovies, pineapple pizza are cardinal sins, bacon and chicken are good but NOT on pizza.

your from texas so you get a pass on the ham ? and jalapenos.

Hey now. Prosciutto is a type of ham.

only in italy.

proscuitto not on pizza. proscuitto and tomato sauce dont mix.

unless its a white pizza then its not really a pizza anyway.

 

[shoengine]

The only things that should go on pizza is olive oil, basil and mozzarella.

Once your past that, anything is fair game

 

[mac_1103]

proscuitto not on pizza. proscuitto and tomato sauce dont mix.

You need to broaden your horizons; you're missing out on a lot of good eating. You're also dissing my mom who was about as Italian as it gets and a better cook, I'd wager, than anyone who is likely to respond to this thread.

 

[passedpawn]

I do love the toppings, but the sauce and dough are so danged important, I almost don't care about the rest.

 

[DBhomebrew]

Prosciutto not a "real" pizza topping? Ha!

Besides, don't get get too high on your horse about a "real" pizza. It's peasant food. It's like asking what is "real vs fake slang".

 

[passedpawn]

to answer the original question though, I agree with all. I do happen to love anchovies too. I'll add olives. I never order them on pizza, but I love them. Green or black (black has very little flavor tho, just the salty brine they come in).

My favorite pizza has fresh basil on it. Add pepperoni to that, and it's perfect. And a garlicy sauce that you can actually taste.

 

[passedpawn]

Prosciutto not a "real" pizza topping? Ha!

Besides, don't get get too high on your horse about a "real" pizza. It's peasant food. It's like asking what is "real vs fake slang".

haha, the original pizza was created for a King visiting Naples Italy.

 

[fluketamer]

Prosciutto not a "real" pizza topping? Ha!

Besides, don't get get too high on your horse about a "real" pizza. It's peasant food. It's like asking what is "real vs fake slang".

all delicacies start out as peasant food.

 

[DBhomebrew]

haha, the original pizza was created for a King visiting Naples Italy.

Go on

 

[DBhomebrew]

all delicacies start out as peasant food.

Agreed

 

[fluketamer]

You need to broaden your horizons; you're missing out on a lot of good eating. You're also dissing my mom who was about as Italian as it gets and a better cook, I'd wager, than anyone who is likely to respond to this thread.

i would never diss anyones mom. lol isnt it amazing that all moms make the best food. (its not true tho. its only the best cause we grew up on it. - i miss her cooking so much.) my wife couldnt hold a candle to my moms cooking but my kids say its the best. lol

 

[passedpawn]

Go on

Lol. Obviously, almost every combination of foods was around since before recorded times. But you can find that pizza of its current form, especially the form I like (dough, sauce, cheese, basil) was served as a local delicacy to the king of Italy (Umberto). I imagine, that was where its popularity took root.

Consider theOctoberfest beer. It was certainly a existing style, but when a German noble requested something for a wedding, it's popularity soared.

 

[passedpawn]

Besides, don't get get too high on your horse about a "real" pizza. It's peasant food. It's like asking what is "real vs fake slang".

OK, now that I think about it, you might be right.

 

[mac_1103]

lol isnt it amazing that all moms make the best food. (its not true tho. its only the best cause we grew up on it.

Well, my mother actually was an amazing cook. Mostly but not exclusively southern Italian and most of it off the top of her head. Fortunately we got her to write most of her recipes down before she passed away. She was a great cook because she had a great pallate - if you took her out to eat and ordered a dish she wasn't familiar with, she would ask for a taste and if she liked it she would cook it herself just from the memory of what it tasted like. I guess it's kind of like the gastronomic equivalent of having perfect pitch, which she most definitely did not.

 

[MaxStout]

all delicacies start out as peasant food.

Lobster used to be peasant food. It was also fed to prisoners.

My must-haves for pizza: Good crust (something much better than the glorified flatbread too many places use), a little olive oil, good pizza sauce, the right herbs (fresh basil!), and cheese. I'm a pepperoni guy, but I will certainly enjoy a cheese pizza any day.

 

[Yooper]

I LOVE pizza. I don't love deep dish anymore, but I would still eat that too.

One of the highlights for me of Florence was a 'four seasons' pizza and the waiter brought it out, with a bottle of good olive oil and a bottle of balsamic vinegar for drizzling. I loved the very thin crust, the lack of very much cheese (hate that thick gooey stuff), and the minimal amounts of sauce. It was perfect!
Not exactly my pizza in Tuscany, but here is the gist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza...ing, tomatoes or,and "renowned" Italian pizza. My pizza was more bare, in a good way!

 

[lumpher]

You need to broaden your horizons; you're missing out on a lot of good eating. You're also dissing my mom who was about as Italian as it gets and a better cook, I'd wager, than anyone who is likely to respond to this thread.

Your mom may have been a better Italian cook than me, but I'd challenge her with anything Mexican. "A better cook" is not only biased toward your opinion, but is like saying "a better engineer" or "a better driver".

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

I'm generally not a fan of pineapple on pizza.

However, pineapple+pepperoni+jalapeno actually works. The grease of the pepperoni and the heat of the jalapeno cuts the sweetness of the pineapple. It's a good combo.

 

[fluketamer]

"Well, my mother actually was an amazing cook."

all of our mothers were, that was my point.

dont forget most of us on here come from a time where our mothers actually cooked. lol

but i dont doubt that your mom was a great cook. you are lucky to have got the recipes. but i know no matter how hard you try they wont be the same.

i got a recipe from my grandma once before she passed. i followed it to the tee.....and it all ended up in the trash. when i went back to her and asked what went wrong she just shrugged her shoulders and said no one ever complained when she made it so she had no clue.

 

[mac_1103]

all of our mothers were, that was my point.

My MIL was a terrible cook and all six of her children concur. My FIL loved her cooking though. Only person on the planet who did. Guess it's good that they found each other.

i know no matter how hard you try they wont be the same

They only have to be close enough to trigger the memory. Sort of like my Belgian style ales.

 

[passedpawn]

Pineapple must be coupled with pork. Take my word, this is sacrosanct. Test it yourself.

 

[Hoochin'Fool]

Thin-crust (and it needs to be crisp), mozzarella, light tomato sauce, garlic, basil, and pepperoni. Then mix up a special sauce of a 2 parts thai sweet chili sauce, and 3 parts marie sharp's fiery hot habanero sauce, and drizzle that all over. It's addicting as hell, but it's also so damned spicy, that you can't eat more than a few slices -- it's practically self-enforced dieting!

 

[Cheshire Cat]

I LOVE pizza. I don't love deep dish anymore, but I would still eat that too.

One of the highlights for me of Florence was a 'four seasons' pizza and the waiter brought it out, with a bottle of good olive oil and a bottle of balsamic vinegar for drizzling. I loved the very thin crust, the lack of very much cheese (hate that thick gooey stuff), and the minimal amounts of sauce. It was perfect!
Not exactly my pizza in Tuscany, but here is the gist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza_quattro_stagioni#:~:text=Artichokes represent spring, tomatoes or,and "renowned" Italian pizza. My pizza was more bare, in a good way!

Pizza quattro stagioni is my favourite also as well as quattro fromaggi.​

 

[TheDudeLebowski]

Nice job!!! Obvious troll bot OP.

You ain't tried anything until it's 3am in Montreal

https://montreal.eater.com/2014/3/19/6259407/pizzaghetti-is-quebecs-most-shameful-food

 

[Broken Crow]

The only things that should go on pizza is olive oil, basil and mozzarella.

Once your past that, anything is fair game

Really close! You sound like a fellow 'sense of history' pizza buff. Here's a bit:

"Following the 1861 unification of the country, baker Raffaele Esposito was credited, in 1889, with inventing the now ubiquitous Margherita pizza in honour of the visit of Queen Margherita di Savoia, the wife of King Umberto the I, to the city. The colours of the Italian flag were mirrored in the ingredients: tomatoes for red; cheese for white; and basil for green. And thus, the iconic pizza was born."
(here's the whole article: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200415-how-to-make-pizza-like-a-neapolitan-master)
I'm spoiled for pizza as my town had the best pizza in Canada (at least from the 70's through the 90's)...also, we have a large Italian community so if you went to the right places you can get real Italian pizza rather than the North American stuff that was brought back from WWII which, if you want to be pedantic isn't 'Real' pizza at all...but then, 'Real' American hamburgers are served on bread, not buns, and ketchup is a no-no..Only a real slice of tomato! Heck..I don't live too far from the town where Hawaiian pizza was invented so I've had both great and really bad pizzas with pineapple.
Heck...most of the beers on market today could be called 'Not Real'..especially those hazies if you really wanted to get pedantic.
Thanks for the thread though...nice reading and thoughts to wake up to.

 

[shoengine]

Really close! You sound like a fellow 'sense of history' pizza buff. Here's a bit:

"Following the 1861 unification of the country, baker Raffaele Esposito was credited, in 1889, with inventing the now ubiquitous Margherita pizza in honour of the visit of Queen Margherita di Savoia, the wife of King Umberto the I, to the city. The colours of the Italian flag were mirrored in the ingredients: tomatoes for red; cheese for white; and basil for green. And thus, the iconic pizza was born."
(here's the whole article: https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20200415-how-to-make-pizza-like-a-neapolitan-master)
I'm spoiled for pizza as my town had the best pizza in Canada (at least from the 70's through the 90's)...also, we have a large Italian community so if you went to the right places you can get real Italian pizza rather than the North American stuff that was brought back from WWII which, if you want to be pedantic isn't 'Real' pizza at all...but then, 'Real' American hamburgers are served on bread, not buns, and ketchup is a no-no..Only a real slice of tomato! Heck..I don't live too far from the town where Hawaiian pizza was invented so I've had both great and really bad pizzas with pineapple.
Heck...most of the beers on market today could be called 'Not Real'..especially those hazies if you really wanted to get pedantic.
Thanks for the thread though...nice reading and thoughts to wake up to.

Ahh, I forgot the tomatos!

 

[MaxStout]

What kind of sauce does everyone like for making pizza?

I found a recipe on Zymurgy a few years ago that's a bit different. It was called Ekstedt, IIRC. Tomato sauce, onion, garlic, herbs, a little sugar, etc., but with a twist: adding soy and worcestershire sauces. It's got a nice zing.

For canned, I like this one, though I haven't seen it sold in my area. I picked some up on a trip to NY state last spring, and I think Amazon has it. Has a nice bite and not too sweet.

This one isn't bad either, and my stores carry it.