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Clown shoes hammer of the holy B1 was just that. Everything else is par. I think it is available and affordable. There is an 'eternal september' happening in craft right now that is perpetuating available affordable at par beers. That is great. It is the ONLY thing keeping this ****** wheel rolling.
 
Clown shoes hammer of the holy B1 was just that. Everything else is par. I think it is available and affordable. There is an 'eternal september' happening in craft right now that is perpetuating available affordable at par beers. That is great. It is the ONLY thing keeping this ****** wheel rolling.
That one was good too. Ferrand Billionaire was another.
 
I can understand that, but mint has, like, ZERO similar flavor characteristics to basil
Well that's just not true. Basil is in the mint family, and old basil (like the stuff you buy in a jar at the grocery store) can basically just taste like faded mint. I've stopped putting it on pizza because it just tastes like mint to me.

Now, saying fresh basil tastes like mint? That's some crazy talk. I can see saying the flavor has some similar characteristics to mint, because, yeah, it's in the mint family, but you'll never get it confused with spearmint or something.
 
When Clown Shoes first launched in MA years back, I went to their launch party and wasn't impressed with their offerings. Never really gave them a second chance.
 
Well that's just not true. Basil is in the mint family, and old basil (like the stuff you buy in a jar at the grocery store) can basically just taste like faded mint. I've stopped putting it on pizza because it just tastes like mint to me.

Now, saying fresh basil tastes like mint? That's some crazy talk. I can see saying the flavor has some similar characteristics to mint, because, yeah, it's in the mint family, but you'll never get it confused with spearmint or something.
Different basil tastes different (Italian, vs purple, vs thai). Thai is more minty to me.
 
I definitely get mint and licorice from thai basil, which is completely different than italian basil.

Has anyone made a thai basil stout? Would probably be better than most mint stouts.
I made thai basil pesto once. Was a pain in the ass harvesting all those tiny leaves. Purple basil is my favorite. So pretty with all those purple leaves.
 
Well that's just not true. Basil is in the mint family, and old basil (like the stuff you buy in a jar at the grocery store) can basically just taste like faded mint. I've stopped putting it on pizza because it just tastes like mint to me.

Now, saying fresh basil tastes like mint? That's some crazy talk. I can see saying the flavor has some similar characteristics to mint, because, yeah, it's in the mint family, but you'll never get it confused with spearmint or something.
Not saying it's a dead ringer or that you'd confuse one for the other. Just similar characteristics that don't really work in a stout for me.
 
While we're on the subject, anyone try the SpontanBasil from Linemans/Mikkeller? I had it last night, and the basil flavor worked great with the gueuze.
Was tasty. But certainly a beer for circumstance, not regular quaffing. Wish it were in 375ml bottles instead
 
The only basil that I like:

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