Random Beer Thoughts

[trickytunadicky]

Tell me more about that Pizza Parka

 

[sacrelicio]

First time poster, please be gentle. Also, in before INRAT.

I was talking with raginasian238 just now about this, so blame her for encouraging me to post here. However, my RBT: does the craft beer industry owe its success, at least partially, to resellers, traders, shitlords, etc.? Let's say, for example, we were all forced to only buy beer for personal consumption, how much Huna or BCS or TreeHouse or whatever hyped beer / brewery you want would you actually buy? The average craft beer drinker would likely be buying a lot less, IMO.

The resellers or traders have created this odd love of waiting in lines for rare beers because that's the only way to get most of them now without trading or buying at an inflated cost. By creating this line requirement, they're essentially creating a product scarcity and FOMO, which then creates more lines. If they all went away, or if there was no such thing as "secondary," would breweries be selling as much product or for that matter, even making as much product as they are now? My guess is no.

That being the case, I'm sure most brewers have a love / hate relationship with the lines because they know they're going to sell a lot of beer, but they also have to deal with the general public and the complaints from those who missed out. If there was no such thing as lines, the brewers would likely be selling less beer, or maybe have to branch out to distribution to sell the same amount, which would result in less profit for the brewery itself in both instances.

I have no doubt breweries hate seeing their beer on the secondary market, especially for inflated prices, but it's also creating a demand for them since clearly they are either pricing it too low, or they're not making enough to satisfy the demand. Raise prices and they may not sell as quickly, taking up space or going bad, but they collect more profit on what's sold. Increase production and your product doesn't sell as well, taking up cellar space or going bad, but it's also not being sold on secondary. It kind of seems, in some ways, the secondary market is actually good for craft beer / breweries.

Thoughts? Disagreements? So much INRAT?

I think for upstarts and smaller places it helps. Our local Facebook group basically supported tiny Disgruntled Brewing for a year or so. People used to do mule runs for hoppy crowlers until they started distributing to MSP, and they were pretty successful once they did, since the hype had gotten out. Not sure the local townspeople in Perham MN could have consumed all that haze. It helped that the brewer was in the group and friends with people also, it was a good way for them to get some traction. Bottle releases for stouts were all people from the group and they distributed bottles to the rest of the group.

People from all over the upper midwest did runs to Toppling Goliath for cases of hoppy stuff and still do. Basically free distro. Places like Pulpit Rock and Forager also attract mule runs.

In these cases, there's not a ton of flipping for profits, since it's mostly friends muling for each other, and it's mostly hoppy beers, and these places don't have much of a national profile (except TG of course).

 

[quirk6]

Tell me more about that Pizza Parka

I think he's Spiderman.

 

[drgarage1]

I think he's Spiderman.

That’s impossible! He takes pictures of Spider-Man. Besides, Parka is a weakling with glasses. No way.

 

[JulianB1]

In news that will shock pretty much no one, Pizza Boy's new blueberry sour is apparently dead flat, and their customer service response to complaints and requests for refunds is basically "lol go **** yourself".

 

[Lutter]

PBR came out with a jacket that holds 12 16 oz cans. I want one.
http://www.foodandwine.com/news/pbr-beer-jacket

Not a great idea for skiing though, if you wipe out it's going to hurt a lot.

https://www.686.com/products/686-mens-sixer-insulated-jacket?variant=49051853190

You're making a jacket that holds 12 beers and the size only goes up to XL?

GTFO, amirite?

 

[austinbridges]

As for food, I pretty much just eat as many tacos as possible (AMTAP) while in Phoenix and it works out nicely. Obviously I enjoy everything AZW brews, but it's very hard to find their beer around the city. Was extremely underwhelmed by OHSO. Wren House is the only other real game in town, and I think even they themselves would benefit from some friendly competition (and collaboration!) in the local scene. SunUp was nice, and I did enjoy their White Russian stout (and impressive line-up of Superstition meads for onsite pours), but that's not necessarily a difficult beer to make delicious.

All of that being said, the scene there is hurting for a serious high-level operation to raise the local bar for quality. Then again, AZW is building a new, bigger facility that's actually in downtown Phoenix, so that may just take care of it right there.

Came into work this morning to a note that I have to go to Phoenix Friday. Wren House and tacos it is.

 

[docreight1]

In news that will shock pretty much no one, Pizza Boy's new blueberry sour is apparently dead flat, and their customer service response to complaints and requests for refunds is basically "lol go **** yourself".

The dude certainly is known for his outstanding customer service.

 

[Ziggy]

First time poster, please be gentle. Also, in before INRAT.

I was talking with raginasian238 just now about this, so blame her for encouraging me to post here. However, my RBT: does the craft beer industry owe its success, at least partially, to resellers, traders, shitlords, etc.? Let's say, for example, we were all forced to only buy beer for personal consumption, how much Huna or BCS or TreeHouse or whatever hyped beer / brewery you want would you actually buy? The average craft beer drinker would likely be buying a lot less, IMO.

The resellers or traders have created this odd love of waiting in lines for rare beers because that's the only way to get most of them now without trading or buying at an inflated cost. By creating this line requirement, they're essentially creating a product scarcity and FOMO, which then creates more lines. If they all went away, or if there was no such thing as "secondary," would breweries be selling as much product or for that matter, even making as much product as they are now? My guess is no.

That being the case, I'm sure most brewers have a love / hate relationship with the lines because they know they're going to sell a lot of beer, but they also have to deal with the general public and the complaints from those who missed out. If there was no such thing as lines, the brewers would likely be selling less beer, or maybe have to branch out to distribution to sell the same amount, which would result in less profit for the brewery itself in both instances.

I have no doubt breweries hate seeing their beer on the secondary market, especially for inflated prices, but it's also creating a demand for them since clearly they are either pricing it too low, or they're not making enough to satisfy the demand. Raise prices and they may not sell as quickly, taking up space or going bad, but they collect more profit on what's sold. Increase production and your product doesn't sell as well, taking up cellar space or going bad, but it's also not being sold on secondary. It kind of seems, in some ways, the secondary market is actually good for craft beer / breweries.

Thoughts? Disagreements? So much INRAT?

Question

What does RBT mean?

In the first main paragraph, you mentioned something called "RBT"

Does that stand for Really Big Titties?

There's also this definition on Urban Dictionary:

R.B.T

Where a female sucks a team of dicks at once.

"Wow man, this girl actually ran a r.b.t last night on me and my buddies."
"You see that girl there? yea she runs trains"

#runbraintrain#oralsex#train#sexorgy#********#suckdick#rbt
by WRig May 05, 2008

 

[Lutter]

What does RBT mean?

 

[drgarage1]

Rebuttal, *********

 

[jivex5k1]

Question

What does RBT mean?

In the first main paragraph, you mentioned something called "RBT"

Does that stand for Really Big Titties?

There's also this definition on Urban Dictionary:

R.B.T

Where a female sucks a team of dicks at once.

"Wow man, this girl actually ran a r.b.t last night on me and my buddies."
"You see that girl there? yea she runs trains"

#runbraintrain#oralsex#train#sexorgy#********#suckdick#rbt
by WRig May 05, 2008

It stands for real beer talk.

 

[Ziggy]

It stands for real beer talk.

Preference to Real Big *******

 

[jvanaus]

Question

What does RBT mean?

In the first main paragraph, you mentioned something called "RBT"

Does that stand for Really Big Titties?

There's also this definition on Urban Dictionary:

R.B.T

Where a female sucks a team of dicks at once.

"Wow man, this girl actually ran a r.b.t last night on me and my buddies."
"You see that girl there? yea she runs trains"

#runbraintrain#oralsex#train#sexorgy#********#suckdick#rbt
by WRig May 05, 2008

Or, possibly the name of the thread I'm posting in.

 

[AndresR]

Anyone else constantly hit the refresh on the FedEx/UPS site when a package is expected?

Every 10 Damn minutes I catch myself doing it today! OCD is for Realz!!!

 

[Gene1]

Anyone else constantly hit the refresh on the FedEx/UPS site when a package is expected?

Every 10 Damn minutes I catch myself doing it today! OCD is for Realz!!!

The UPS app now lets you see your driver’s location in real time. It’s maddening.

 

[furley]

The UPS app now lets you see your driver’s location in real time. It’s maddening.

so i can track him delivering a package to my neighbor's house instead of mine where it belongs? neat

 

[AndresR]

The UPS app now lets you see your driver’s location in real time. It’s maddening.

I don't want to create a UPS account to get that feature.

JUST LET ME TRACK IN REALTIME WITHOUT SIGNING UP FOR ****!!!

 

[sherm10161]

The UPS app now lets you see your driver’s location in real time. It’s maddening.

This could be handy. I've had to chase down a UPS driver at 7pm on a Friday, when I was leaving for four days, so as not to let a box sit on my stoop until I got back.

 

[Lutter]

Does it bother anyone else when someone has 3+ adjuncts in a beer and they still call it an "IPA" because it's hazy?

Am I just being old man stubborn?

 

[JulianB1]

Does it bother anyone else when someone has 3+ adjuncts in a beer and they still call it an "IPA" because it's hazy?

Am I just being old man stubborn?

I feel like this needs some fleshing out. Is the "base" an IPA or something similar? I mean, at this point the definition of IPA has been stretched so much it's nearly meaningless other than as an indication that the beer is pale in appearance (unless black or some other color is included in the name) and hop character is a major component of the flavor.

I also don't really see what hazy has to do with it other than the fact that most "milkshake IPAs" and the like are, since that's what I'm assuming we are talking about. I mean, I can totally see Stone doing a crystal-clear "mocha latte IPA" or something along those lines, if they haven't already.

 

[boogercrack]

Does it bother anyone else when someone has 3+ adjuncts in a beer and they still call it an "IPA" because it's hazy?

Am I just being old man stubborn?

The less you give a **** about trivial things like this the happier you'll be as a human

 

[quirk6]

The less you give a **** about trivial things like this the happier you'll be as a human

Damn right. If someone gives you a bucket to **** in, just **** in the bucket.

 

[furley]

Does it bother anyone else when someone has 3+ adjuncts in a beer and they still call it an "IPA" because it's hazy?

Am I just being old man stubborn?

not even remotely something i consider

 

[RyanG1]

Damn right. If someone gives you a bucket to **** in, just **** in the bucket.

 

[quirk6]

In Texas they give you buckets when the bathroom plumbing isn't working. I thought everyone knew that.

 

[boogercrack]

Damn right. If someone gives you a bucket to **** in, just **** in the bucket.

You didn't see me questioning if the bucket being metallic or plastic disqualified it is being labeled a **** bucket did you?

No sir-ree, I took what I was given and lived my life the best I can, trying not to dip my dick in the slop at the bottom of the bucket.

 

[sherm10161]

There’s a bar/restaurant on the air side of security in Terminal D of Mitchell Airport selling 12 packs of Spotted Cow cans to go for the low, low price of $27.99.

On one hand, it’s nice to see Milwaukee getting with the program, albeit a little late.

On the other, **** off with that price. It’s basically double normal retail price. However, I’m sure they have no trouble selling it to visitors with space in their carry-on luggage.

 

[Josh2]

There’s a bar/restaurant on the air side of security in Terminal D of Mitchell Airport selling 12 packs of Spotted Cow cans to go for the low, low price of $27.99.

On one hand, it’s nice to see Milwaukee getting with the program, albeit a little late.

On the other, **** off with that price. It’s basically double normal retail price. However, I’m sure they have no trouble selling it to visitors with space in their carry-on luggage.

There's a very small percentage of vendors past security that sell anything at "retail".
Everything from candy to stupid keepsakes and everything in between gets an instant and significant convenience price once you get through security.

 

[FoudreGuy]

There's a very small percentage of vendors past security that sell anything at "retail".
Everything from candy to stupid keepsakes and everything in between gets an instant and significant convenience price once you get through security.

Portland's airport doesn't allow the retailers to increase their prices. Too bad more airports don't follow suit.