Double IPA Pliny the Elder Clone

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Does your 17 days include your dry hopping schedule?

No, but just checked the Pliny parti gyle with no off flavors (12.5 days). So may check Pliny tomorrow night to dry hop.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Ok, experiment continues. Using Oregon St. research, dry hopped for 6hrs...yes you read that correct. Now kegged. 8.0% on the nose! No butter flavor! Bitter, alcohol warm, and fruity.

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[ultravista]

Why only a 6 hour dry hop? What size was the dose?

 

[Resonator]

Ok, experiment continues. Using Oregon St. research, dry hopped for 6hrs...yes you read that correct. Now kegged. 8.0% on the nose! No butter flavor! Bitter, alcohol warm, and fruity.

Looks nice.

 

[alazar]

I hope you're using that 6hr dose for bittering next batch yo.

 

[brewski09]

Why only a 6 hour dry hop? What size was the dose?

There is some research out there that says dry hops basically reach peak oil concentration in as little as 4-6 hours so all that other time is just wasted as the beer is sitting and not developing. I'm curious how this turned out myself.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Well a true scientist would have brewed 2 batches using "standard" and this experimental hop introduction technique. If the hop flavor last 6 weeks in the keg, i'd call it successful. That's about my limit for detectable hop flavors after kegging.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Why only a 6 hour dry hop? What size was the dose?

It was 5.5oz. 2.5 simcoe, 1oz each of amarillo, cascade, Columbus.

If I may add, no one would not think of making tea by putting leaves into the water and letting them sit for 5-7 days right?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Sorry, don't mean to jack the thread on brewing techniques, but it took about an hour to cool the wort due to the two different hop introductions at 180/140F. I've read all about oxygenation and sulfur compounds forming with slow cool downs. I get my beer sampled by a long time brewer in LHBS. He has never said anything about detecting these issues. Wondering if it's overstated.

 

[Resonator]

Just bottled my 9% warrior PTE.

Have my next one ready with an additional 4 oz of warrior and 2 oz of Amarillo.

Thinking of using all 20 oz and making a hop bomb.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Have my next one ready with a
Thinking of using all 20 oz and making a hop bomb.

Do it Res!

Mine's not bitter enough either.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Getting excited..citrus with that floral action. Bitterness is getting pronounced. Just hope it clears up.

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[ultravista]

My PTE is very cloudy too, not sure why. The process was the same as prior batches, the exception being that I dry hopped at serving vs. fermentation temps.

 

[Resonator]

Getting excited..citrus with that floral action. Bitterness is getting pronounced. Just hope it clears up.

Wish mine was that color. More reason to move to all grain as soon as I graduate and get a job locked down.

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Lighter than previous ones, but I still think the LME is to blame.

Still, very smooth for 9%. Kinda wish there was more hop bitterness on the tongue, but I'm sure most everyone I give it to will like.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Wish mine was that color. More reason to move to all grain as soon as I graduate and get a job locked down.

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Lighter than previous ones, but I still think the LME is to blame.

Still, very smooth for 9%. Kinda wish there was more hop bitterness on the tongue, but I'm sure most everyone I give it to will like.

All grain for these big beers are a must. All grain equipment is not much, 10gal HD cooler and parts run $100.

I'm actually starting to do partial mashes with lighter <6%. A 3hr day vs 8hr looks appealing.

Cheers to Pliny lovers. This is truly the juiciest Pliny I've made. Wish I could share to gather opinions. Oh and go Niners!

 

[Joesl8]

All grain for these big beers are a must. All grain equipment is not much, 10gal HD cooler and parts run $100.

I'm actually starting to do partial mashes with lighter <6%. A 3hr day vs 8hr looks appealing.

Cheers to Pliny lovers. This is truly the juiciest Pliny I've made. Wish I could share to gather opinions. Oh and go Niners!

Did you guys use Irish moss or Whirfloc tabs? Or is the haze hop sediment?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Not in this case. Used both before. Give it another week, will be better.

 

[Resonator]

So thinking about brewing my Pliny today, and adding 4 oz of warrior @60 and 2 oz of Amarillo @30 to the boil. Might throw in an oz of mosaic to the dry hops to make it a total of 21oz of hops.

21oz / 50 bottles = 0.420 oz hops/per bottle [emoji41]

 

[Resonator]

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This should be bitter enough this time... 228.29 IBU

Wondering if I should space out the warrior more or take some out. The 4 oz is adding 111 IBU @ 60min

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

With 8oz of bittering hops, don't think a few min either way would matter.

 

[Resonator]

Yea I think I'm going to do the warrior @90 and magnum @60. What temp have you been adding the flameout hops at? 140?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Yea I think I'm going to do the warrior @90 and magnum @60. What temp have you been adding the flameout hops at? 140?

I took the 30min to whirlpool hops, divided them in 1/2 and added at 180/140. I actually had a simcoe/Amarillo 5min, but only an ounce combined.

My bittering hops totalled ~3oz. It is plenty bitter to not overwhelm the juiciness.

Dry hop was 6hrs, but will do 24hrs next.

Just MHO, I'd put the 2oz cascade from FWH to the whirlpool additions.

 

[Resonator]

I took the 30min to whirlpool hops, divided them in 1/2 and added at 180/140. I actually had a simcoe/Amarillo 5min, but only an ounce combined.

Just MHO, I'd put the 2oz cascade from FWH to the whirlpool additions.

Lol too late on the fwh.

Would you leave the whirlpool hops in there for 30 min even if I hit 70 in 10 min?

Should I just cool it down to whatever I can then just let them sit for 30 min?
Or
Should I just cool it down slower?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Yea Res, the goal is to have an oil sheen on your wort, as much as possible. I took me 60min to cool 6gallons...as reference.

 

[Resonator]

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PTE #3 1lb of hops with warrior bittering.
Color still off even adding at the LME @10 min.
Not sure what it could be other than the LME.

Bag of ultralight LME from most recent brew.

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[brewski09]

That still seems a bit dark even for being ultra light IMO. I like Briess Pilsen Light for my light LME personally but that might change the malt character.

 

[Resonator]

That still seems a bit dark even for being ultra light IMO. I like Briess Pilsen Light for my light LME personally but that might change the malt character.

Yea, that's what I've been thinking. It even smelled a little toasted/burnt before I put it in.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Can you get golden dme as a substitute from supply store?

 

[Resonator]

Can you get golden dme as a substitute from supply store?

I've been ordering from MoreBeer, and unfortunately my lhbs 30 min away has only has Pilsen and wheat for some reason. I plan on sending morebeer an email about it with some pictures, but at this point I'm done brewing for a couple months until I graduate. I still have a couple batches to bottle and drink, but I need to focus

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Had to put this here haha
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9y the elder
PTE clone #3 using warrior and extra lb of Pilsen DME

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Pliny the Amber! Sure looks nice.