Double IPA Pliny the Elder Clone

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Good plan. Lots of those guys on Drinking Now forum trade. Did 1st with Bucknuts in Ohio. Need someone close to Vermont for HT for sure! 🍻

 

[Resonator]

Good plan. Lots of those guys on Drinking Now forum trade. Did 1st with Bucknuts in Ohio. Need someone close to Vermont for HT for sure! [emoji482]

Haha yea @finsfan hit me up looking for a trade. He wants 6 for him and some for a trade he's doing with @patrickgoss. I think 77 wanted some and one other person.

Not sure how many I'll be able to save until I get a 12 pack from the brewery one week. After walking a couple miles around the city to a few different places within an hour or two, all I want to do is drink them once I finally get home haha.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Experimental Pliny brew day. FWH, 5min, 180F, and 140F hop introductions only. Parti Gyle session IPA also.

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[ThirstyPawsHB]

Haha yea @finsfan hit me up looking for a trade. He wants 6 for him and some for a trade he's doing with @patrickgoss. I think 77 wanted some and one other person.

Not sure how many I'll be able to save until I get a 12 pack from the brewery one week. After walking a couple miles around the city to a few different places within an hour or two, all I want to do is drink them once I finally get home haha.

I offered a guy I know in the area $125 to send me a 6 pack, but no go. If there's anything in Austin/Texas your interested in, PM me anytime.

 

[ultravista]

Regarding the More Beer Pliny kit. Move the Cascade from mash to dry hop.

Russian River does not mash hop and I feel that any potential benefits of mash hopping will be lost in the massive kettle and dry hop additions.

I split the 2 ounces and double-dose during dry hop, one ounce each turn.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Oil sheen on the cooled wort makes me happy! Numbers came out tad high @ 1.074. Cheers!

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[arbadarchi]

Oil sheen on the cooled wort makes me happy! Numbers came out tad high @ 1.074. Cheers!

Why would you put ice in your Pliny!?!

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Why would you put ice in your Pliny!?!

Never..

 

[brewski09]

I offered a guy I know in the area $125 to send me a 6 pack, but no go. If there's anything in Austin/Texas your interested in, PM me anytime.

Someone said no to $125 for a six pack of beer shipped? Wow

 

[Resonator]

Someone said no to $125 for a six pack of beer shipped? Wow

It's like ~$40-48 for 6 -- buying bottles at different stores (since there's usually a 2-4 bottle limit, and range from $6-8). At the brewery it would probably be way cheaper.

Still a great offer for the trouble of getting them

 

[slym2none]

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About to start another PTE clone. Third time's the charm.

So pretty much same as MoreBeer! kit, but replaced the 2 oz of magnum with 2 oz of 15% AA warrior.

Only going to add in the DME and maltodextrin at the beginning of boil or possibly @60 min -- trying to keep the color light. May also throw in another pound of briess Pilsen light DME to bump it up a bit, and to make it so it's 2 lbs extract for 2.5 gal water. Also, adding the LME @15 min.

Thinking about adding in an oz of mosaic, but I'll probably save it for my Belgian Tripel IPA. Maybe use the magnum in that one too.

If anyone has any suggestions let me know soon haha.

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In case someone needs to see the recipe

Just, y'know, for science & all... what yeast is packed with this kit? What would be some good substitutions, too???

 

[Resonator]

Just, y'know, for science & all... what yeast is packed with this kit? What would be some good substitutions, too???

No yeast comes with, just recommendations

I use (2) packets of US-05

Others use:
wyeast 1056
Or
White labs California ale

 

[slym2none]

Thank you!

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

+1 for 2 pkgs Safale05

 

[ikaris]

I offered a guy I know in the area $125 to send me a 6 pack, but no go. If there's anything in Austin/Texas your interested in, PM me anytime.

Wow, i can get you some

 

[arbadarchi]

So earlier I said that after trying Pliny 3 times I didn't like it, with the last time being from a keg and too bitter. So I got a couple more bottles and tried it tonight and it was incredible. It was a totally different experience than before. The date on the bottle was the 21st of September so it was 12 days out. Very smooth and complex. Whereas the glass I had earlier was all bitter with little aroma.

I think I'll give it a shot.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

So earlier I said that after trying Pliny 3 times I didn't like it, with the last time being from a keg and too bitter. So I got a couple more bottles and tried it tonight and it was incredible. It was a totally different experience than before. The date on the bottle was the 21st of September so it was 12 days out. Very smooth and complex. Whereas the glass I had earlier was all bitter with little aroma.

I think I'll give it a shot.

Living in Texas, we don't get Pliny. Have a friend to has brought it back twice. Last summer, it was the most incredible drink I've ever had, bitter (not too), very floral...music to the taste buds. They brought back 9/3/15 batch a couple weeks ago, it was grassy/salty, like an amped up New Belgium Ranger, even she complained about the flavor....that's why we clone! Make our own consistently, hopefully, flavor beer.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Wow, i can get you some

After this last 9/3 batch we've had, rather spend $75 on 5 gallons of my own. Be curious if Pliny experts in the area, had same experience with that batch.

 

[brewski09]

After this last 9/3 batch we've had, rather spend $75 on 5 gallons of my own. Be curious if Pliny experts in the area, had same experience with that batch.

They are always making this stuff. I had some of the 9/10/15 batch on 9/12 and it was the best Pliny I've ever had.

 

[Brizzo]

Trying a clone of this tomorrow. Bought the Pliny hop pack from farmhouse and kind of butchering the grain bill 8lbs 2 row, 4lbs Vienna and 1 lbs Pilsner, .6lbs carapils, .6lbs crystal 40 And .75lbs dextrose

 

[cowger]

For you guys doing an all-grain and RIMS/HERMS on this recipe, I'm interested in hearing what you do for mash temp profiles. My two versions of this clone have been way too malty compared to the real PtE, and those have been done with a 150 degree mash (flat temp for 60 mins).

I find the real beer to be pretty dry and light, allowing the hops to really pop, so now I'm thinking I should be spending a lot more time in the 140s, and perhaps more time overall in the mash. Would love to hear what others are doing.

Thanks!
Bryan

 

[Resonator]

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Yeasty sample of my latest batch using warrior. Just added 1oz of centennial and 2oz of Columbus for the first dry hop.

It's currently sitting at an 8.8% ABV, and I can't believe how smooth it tastes! Dangerous stuff! Just going to have to make sure I bottle it before/if it gets to up to 9.2-9.3% -- since U.S.-05 will probably quit around 9.5%, I want to make sure it can still carbonate.

The color is definitely a lot lighter from adding the LME near the end of the boil, but unfortunately the bitterness isn't as strong as it usually is when adding all the extract at the start of the boil.

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Sample from yesterday.

It is smoother and hops are noticeable, but it doesn't have that bitter bite like most IPAs. It is probably the most similar to Pliny so far, but I should have added some LME in the beginning to help with hop utilization.

Then again, I have been drinking my heatwave DIPA batch right before, so my tastes could be a little dulled right now.

 

[orangemen5]

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Yeasty sample of my latest batch using warrior. Just added 1oz of centennial and 2oz of Columbus for the first dry hop.

It's currently sitting at an 8.8% ABV, and I can't believe how smooth it tastes! Dangerous stuff! Just going to have to make sure I bottle it before/if it gets to up to 9.2-9.3% -- since U.S.-05 will probably quit around 9.5%, I want to make sure it can still carbonate.

The color is definitely a lot lighter from adding the LME near the end of the boil, but unfortunately the bitterness isn't as strong as it usually is when adding all the extract at the start of the boil.

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Sample from yesterday.

It is smoother and hops are noticeable, but it doesn't have that bitter bite like most IPAs. It is probably the most similar to Pliny so far, but I should have added some LME in the beginning to help with hop utilization.

Then again, I have been drinking my heatwave DIPA batch right before, so my tastes could be a little dulled right now.

US-05 has an alcohol all the way up to 11-13%. A lot of ppl use it for high gravity barelywines.

Your not going to stop fermentation just by bottling it. It will still ferment in the bottle and you just end up with bottle bombs.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

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It's currently sitting at an 8.8% ABV, and I can't believe how smooth it tastes! Dangerous stuff! Just going to have to make sure I bottle it before/if it gets to up to 9.2-9.3% -- since U.S.-05 will probably quit around 9.5%, I want to make sure it can still carbonate.

Res, did you plan for 9%ish? This was a kit right? How'ed you get better efficiency?

 

[Resonator]

US-05 has an alcohol all the way up to 11-13%. A lot of ppl use it for high gravity barelywines.

Your not going to stop fermentation just by bottling it. It will still ferment in the bottle and you just end up with bottle bombs.

I thought I read somewhere it was 9.5%. If that's the case though, then I'll do everything normal.

Res, did you plan for 9%ish? This was a kit right? How'ed you get better efficiency?

Yea, I wanted to make it a bit stronger so I added another lb of Pilsen DME

 

[kmoyer01]

Just cooked this last night but tried fresh hops. As much as I would like to say that I don't like the wet hopped this, wet hopped that trend, I do like the flavor in many beers. Lets see how the classic of classics DIPA likes it.

 

[Resonator]

Just cooked this last night but tried fresh hops. As much as I would like to say that I don't like the wet hopped this, wet hopped that trend, I do like the flavor in many beers. Lets see how the classic of classics DIPA likes it.

You using fresh hops in the boil and dry/wet hopping? Let us know how it turns out though.

 

[Resonator]

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Yeasty sample.

I usually primary for 2 weeks and then dry hop, but this time I tried starting dry hopping on day 8.

Wondering if I should just bottle it and let it settle out in the bottles, or leave it for an extra day or two.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

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Yeasty sample.

I usually primary for 2 weeks and then dry hop, but this time I tried starting dry hopping on day 8.

Wondering if I should just bottle it and let it settle out in the bottles, or leave it for an extra day or two.

Res, sorry I didn't post the final results of my previous batch...swear I did, but looked back. Anyway, 8 days is definitely to short. I had a pronounced butter, diacetyl, flavor. It wasn't apparent at first. Going back to 17days fermentation on this new batch.

 

[Resonator]

It's all good. For me, it's more just yeasty and a little alcohol flavor that needs to mellow out. (Probably because it's at 9%) Does your 17 days include your dry hopping schedule?