Lambic Discussion Thread

[Cruize4Gueuze]

Mate, that's a needle in a haystack situation.

Just look for the fedora.

 

[RyanG1]

Just look for the fedora.

 

[halo4one]

Just look for the fedora.

Padraig Haha, usually, yes. For easy targets, find a Maroon Texas A&M shirt (friend, not me) or a Yankees hat (me). Those should stick out.

 

[belvedere86]

Taken from the other site:

Live from 3 Fonteinen

Cuvée armand and gaston
Golden blend
Hommage
Intense red
Ogv 2012

Possible for take away

After the open beer days, it will be possible to taste a lot of vintage bottles in the tasting room (Armand Lente, lots of OGV, ...)

 

[ccbstl]

 

[2plums4one]

Just wanted to take this moment to say this is the best thread on the internet.

 

[henrythehippo]

Just wanted to take this moment to say this is the best thread on the internet.

I came for the butt stuff

 

[stakem1]

I came for the butt stuff

Did you put much thought into how this reply could be perceived?

Regardless, well done pun star.

 

[Snarf1]

I would be super excited if I has more than a slight chance of getting one 375ml bottle.

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

A Q for you guys, unfortunately unrelated to any recent discussion (which I've perused and enjoyed - thanks):

Early 1990s 3F Gueuze. How is it drinking? Apart from sheer rarity, is it worth trading for? I'm not necessarily looking for trade value (though you can feel free to weigh in) but I'm more just curious if it's held up well; so I thought I'd ask it here.

 

[callmemickey]

A Q for you guys, unfortunately unrelated to any recent discussion (which I've perused and enjoyed - thanks):

Early 1990s 3F Gueuze. How is it drinking? Apart from sheer rarity, is it worth trading for? I'm not necessarily looking for trade value (though you can feel free to weigh in) but I'm more just curious if it's held up well; so I thought I'd ask it here.

How you seen bottles of early 1990s 3F OG out there? Most of the 1990s stuff that is around is 1996 and later. Bottles of 1997 are available at the 3F restaurant and, as of two weeks ago, are still tasting phenomenal. Not too much oxidization (color is still fairly bright) and maintaining great complexity. Really hasn't fallen off in the last ten years, IMO.

 

[BadJustin]

Not mine.

 

[Saind]

Not mine.

Saw this before but I still don't know what I'm looking at exactly

 

[BadJustin]

Saw this before but I still don't know what I'm looking at exactly

Purportedly the new design for the bottles. Label on the back with all the required info and a small side label for type of beer.

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

How you seen bottles of early 1990s 3F OG out there? Most of the 1990s stuff that is around is 1996 and later. Bottles of 1997 are available at the 3F restaurant and, as of two weeks ago, are still tasting phenomenal. Not too much oxidization (color is still fairly bright) and maintaining great complexity. Really hasn't fallen off in the last ten years, IMO.

We're working on dating the bottles. Maybe will post pics later, but purportedly they're early 90's. May be impossible to date though, since the labels have dissolved off. :-/ That's great info though, if a 97 is drinking great then I feel okay pursuing stuff just a few years older than that. Thanks so much!

 

[Saind]

Purportedly the new design for the bottles. Label on the back with all the required info and a small side label for type of beer.

Looking good! 100% less Papyrus at least

 

[callmemickey]

We're working on dating the bottles. Maybe will post pics later, but purportedly they're early 90's. May be impossible to date though, since the labels have dissolved off. :-/

Early 1990s wouldn't have had labels on the body of the bottle... if anything, they would have just a neck-ring:

Would love to see a photo of the bottle/cork... would help a bit with figuring it out.

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

Early 1990s wouldn't have had labels on the body of the bottle... if anything, they would have just a neck-ring:

Would love to see a photo of the bottle/cork... would help a bit with figuring it out.

Yep sounds like we're on track.

There are two old 3F bottles in question, one Kriek and one Gueuze. Will try to get pics to post here. The corks state "Debelder" and "Beersel" and there are glue marks around the neck of the Kriek and there are signs indicating that there was once a label on the Gueuze too. They are cork and cap bottles too not the cork and cage type they use today.

 

[LuxWanderer]

When a big dude starts spouting knowledge to the 3F barrel manager during a tour about Zenne and asking about 'B-2' Zenne you know he's deep in the game

 

[2plums4one]

2012 ogv 1pp on both 375s and 750s to go from what I hear.

 

[iong516]

2012 ogv 1pp on both 375s and 750s to go from what I hear.

Seconded

 

[ac24]

Don't know if this was asked already and I apologize for not going back and looking for the answer but does anyone know if Zenne b2 was aged in the same sherry casks as b1? or were they new, to 3f, sherry casks and if new are they the same age as what was used for b1?

 

[Wino1]

A Q for you guys, unfortunately unrelated to any recent discussion (which I've perused and enjoyed - thanks):

Early 1990s 3F Gueuze. How is it drinking? Apart from sheer rarity, is it worth trading for? I'm not necessarily looking for trade value (though you can feel free to weigh in) but I'm more just curious if it's held up well; so I thought I'd ask it here.

How you seen bottles of early 1990s 3F OG out there? Most of the 1990s stuff that is around is 1996 and later. Bottles of 1997 are available at the 3F restaurant and, as of two weeks ago, are still tasting phenomenal. Not too much oxidization (color is still fairly bright) and maintaining great complexity. Really hasn't fallen off in the last ten years, IMO.

Seconding this. LuxWanderer and I split the '97 at the 3F restaurant back in February. IMO this is the best I've ever had, and that's comparing it against Blauw, Crianza, Zenne, Seasons, Aunis/Carignan/Vin Juane/older Cantillon I had while in Brussels during that trip.

It had this massive barnyard/cheese funk upfront and seamlessly flowed into a sweet, almost sherry like honey finish on the back palate (similar to Zenne). Blew me away.

 

[caninhand]

Not mine.

I ******* LOVE this bottle design!

 

[BadJustin]

I ******* LOVE this bottle design!

Agreed. Originally posted on the FB for .info or lovers, can't remember, but the idea is to emulate the old way of marking bottles with chalk.

 

[Abitker]

Don't know if this was asked already and I apologize for not going back and looking for the answer but does anyone know if Zenne b2 was aged in the same sherry casks as b1? or were they new, to 3f, sherry casks and if new are they the same age as what was used for b1?

I remember someone saying they didn't empty the barrels entirely and were going to start some sort of solera blend.....which is extremely awesome if accurate.

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

Don't know if this was asked already and I apologize for not going back and looking for the answer but does anyone know if Zenne b2 was aged in the same sherry casks as b1? or were they new, to 3f, sherry casks and if new are they the same age as what was used for b1?

I heard the same as above -- that Armand refilled the same casks from b1 with what will be b2.

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

Would love to see a photo of the bottle/cork... would help a bit with figuring it out.

Pics below. Thanks for the help.
The unmarked 3F with the round sticker on it is the Kriek (looks like that one is 1999) the other is the Gueuze (which we think is early 90s).

 

[tupacmoi]

Pics below. Thanks for the help.
The unmarked 3F with the round sticker on it is the Kriek (looks like that one is 1999) the other is the Gueuze (which we think is early 90s).

Looks like the first one is Cantillon and not 3F

 

[PDXAmbassador1]

Looks like the first one is Cantillon and not 3F

Oh man you're right - I must have mixed in a pic of a 99 Cantillon kriek and with the others. This is why I need you experts on the job! (Got all pics of the lot in a jumble -- a 01 GCB, 03 Vig, 99 Cantillon Kriek, and those two 1990s 3F bottles). So....disregard the 99 one and focus on the others, if y'all have input.