Lambic Discussion Thread

[Wino1]

Anyone with experience aging Vigneronne have thoughts on the best time to open a cellared one? I've only had it fresh.

Got a 2012 Vigneronne that I'm not sure how long I want to cellar. Had 2012 St. Lam recently it was doing great. So, I'm wondering if the same would hold true for Viggy.

I had a 2012 Vig at Grote Dorst a couple months back and it wasn't very pleasing. Quite acidic IMO. Given this was at Grote Dorst I assume it was aged properly

 

[Shilt]

Personal preference: st lam ages better, vig can get really acidic, but not always. Just more of a crap shoot with older bottles.

I really love Vig right around 3 years in the bottle.

As always, YMMV

Agree with this completely. Had a '14 Vig recently that I wasn't blown away by though. Of course, we opened it next to a '13 St. Lam which we all thought was drinking incredibly.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Agree with this completely. Had a '14 Vig recently that I wasn't blown away by though. Of course, we opened it next to a '13 St. Lam which we all thought was drinking incredibly.

14 Vig is the low/no carb batch.

I've had one that was amazing, and 2-3 that were just awful. Vig has really been hit or miss lately. The 2015 I tried was ungodly sour.

 

[bahnfire]

I only had 1 '14 Vig and it was perfect. Granted, I've only had Vig 3-4 times total, but it was far and away my best experience with it.

Edit: and while I'm just randomly interjecting, the '15 Lam I opened a few weeks back was not good at all. Very, very blah. I plan on letting my other one sit for a year or two.

 

[Calcifer]

14 Vig is the low/no carb batch.

I've had one that was amazing, and 2-3 that were just awful. Vig has really been hit or miss lately. The 2015 I tried was ungodly sour.

We opened a 2014 Vig in April that I got from buzzword and it was excellent. Light carb (not flat but not agressive either - nice and soft), not overly sour, great balance of fruit and funk. If some 14s are bad, I'm glad Walt sent a good one!

 

[Shilt]

I only had 1 '14 Vig and it was perfect. Granted, I've only had Vig 3-4 times total, but it was far and away my best experience with it.

Edit: and while I'm just randomly interjecting, the '15 Lam I opened a few weeks back was not good at all. Very, very blah. I plan on letting my other one sit for a year or two.

Interesting. Opened a '15 Lam two weeks ago and loved it. Over the past month I've opened a '13, '14, and '15 with various people. '13 and '15 were great and I was less impressed with the '14. The '14 was American label, so no idea if that has any difference (probably not).

 

[BusinessSloth]

I only had 1 '14 Vig and it was perfect. Granted, I've only had Vig 3-4 times total, but it was far and away my best experience with it.

Edit: and while I'm just randomly interjecting, the '15 Lam I opened a few weeks back was not good at all. Very, very blah. I plan on letting my other one sit for a year or two.

What was wrong with the Lam? I opened one recently and it smelled like fart. Cleared up after pouring a glass and letting it sit

 

[GetchaPull]

Based on what red viper said I'm wondering if that's lube instead of lotion.

One of each, actually. Variety is the spice of life...and surprise butt stuff.

 

[buzzword]

had this 2014 last night - perfect carb, still very fruity and not overwhelmingly sour. good funk as it warmed up - the last one I had was sour as crap already, and they were stored inches from each other in my 55* garage. weird!

 

[HenrikO]

Sorry guize, I just can't get behind this St Lam vs Vig meme. I love them both regardless of age (fresh or 10+ years, it don't matter none) - or have I just been lucky with bottles? Also IMHO there is no "weak vintage" St Lam/Vig, these two have been their most consistent seasonals for at least the past 5 years.


Bottom line, will trade Swedish shelf beers for any St Lam/Vig you don't like. I'm just that generous!

 

[bahnfire]

What was wrong with the Lam? I opened one recently and it smelled like fart. Cleared up after pouring a glass and letting it sit

It was tough to quantify exactly. There weren't any apparent off flavors, but it was more a complete lack of flavor. There was no fruit component to the taste. It was also basically still. All my previous experiences with St. Lam have been wonderful. I think it was just a case of bottle variation.

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

It was tough to quantify exactly. There weren't any apparent off flavors, but it was more a complete lack of flavor. There was no fruit component to the taste. It was also basically still. All my previous experiences with St. Lam have been wonderful. I think it was just a case of bottle variation.

blckout20 and I had one of these lackluster '15 St Lams a couple weeks back. First less than remarkable experience I have had with what is otherwise my favorite beer. Pretty much exactly as described above.

 

[caninhand]

All of your Vig and Lam are belonging to me

 

[Ben1]

XP from the Belgium Travel Thread.

Was in Brussels Friday & Saturday and didn't get a chance to make it to 3F's bottle shop.

A&G released into the wild and I don't find out about it until I am home. Ugh.

http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/when-im-****-up-and-i-pretend-i-am-ok-gif.gif

 

[SeaWatchman]

Ahhh yeah.

 

[Josh2]

Ahhh yeah.

I was stoked as **** when I read that until I remembered they dont distribute into utah.
At least we get Sheltons portfolio.

 

[SeaWatchman]

I was stoked as **** when I read that until I remembered they dont distribute into utah.
At least we get Sheltons portfolio.

Salt Lake ******

 

[Josh2]

Salt Lake ******

Cantillon and fantome by the case with a few clicks of the mouse aint too ****** though.
Can't win em all.

 

[drummermattie021]

Yeah, living in Texas, this reads a lot like "Please don't buy our beers so other people can buy our beers instead."

 

[Wino1]

Yeah, living in Texas, this reads a lot like "Please don't buy our beers so other people can buy our beers instead."

yea, well, texas...

 

[SeaWatchman]

Cantillon and fantome by the case with a few clicks of the mouse aint too ****** though.
Can't win em all.

ISO Fantome saison.

Srs.


By July 8.

 

[Josh2]

ISO Fantome saison.

Srs.


By July 8.

Won't happen. It's a 4-6 week lead time from order placement to delivery at liquor store.
It's quicker to order from Belgium, but half the cost.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Won't happen. It's a 4-6 week lead time from order placement to delivery at liquor store.
It's quicker to order from Belgium, but half the cost.

******* Utah.

 

[Pneill3161]

Yup Trappist world done did it!
http://www.trappistworld.com/store/index.php?id_product=197&controller=product
They also got a 10pk of hommage for you too.

 

[ac24]

All gone now.

 

[austinbridges]

Yup Trappist world done did it!
http://www.trappistworld.com/store/index.php?id_product=197&controller=product
They also got a 10pk of hommage for you too.

Well, they were still at half the cost that BelgianBeerBarn sold out at.

 

[64vdub]

All gone now.

Hahaha, they just added 12 more. Sneaky Belgians.

 

[ac24]

and just like that they are down to 4. Most likely all gone by the time i finish typing this.

 

[cneville1]

ISO Fantome saison.

Srs.


By July 8.

cases on cases near me. say the word if you really need it.

 

[2plums4one]

When did this go up? I probably would have puller the trigger.

https://belgiuminabox.com/shop/oude...de-geuze-doesjel-collection.html#.V2msfrgrK03