Lambic Discussion Thread

[BadJustin]

Shitlords muling from the breweries to sell to shitlord webshops who sell to shitlord retailers in the US who sell to #newmoney shitlords who don't drink the beer, just trade it to other #newmoney shitlords for hype-of-the-week adjunct stouts who got their trade equity by paying shitlords to stand in line for them.

Craft beer is a ******* unending chain of shitlords.

OH GOD I AM A SHITLORD

Must resist urge to sig the last line.....

 

[Phin1]

Had a small pour of SpontanBasil tonight, pretty good, certainly hits you over the head with basil.

 

[LuxWanderer]

Not gonna start the rumor mill with only one hearsay report, but

 

[Saind]

Not gonna start the rumor mill with only one hearsay report, but

Scary stuff indeed.

 

[Hopping Tiger]

I totally know what you guys are talking about.

 

[Saind]

I totally know what you guys are talking about.

Some guy on facebook said Cantillon has stopped selling at the brewery except for geuze, kriek and rdg. They're apparently sick of the ridiculous prices people are selling the bottles for and are only going to sell directly to distributors/shop owners.
But again, this is just one shitlord on facebook saying this. They've stopped sales for several days before.

 

[beerman2]

I actually prefer Resurgam and Beat over Tilquin, 3F, or Loon standard gueuzes, but the American ones are even harder for me to obtain without paying $60+/bottle.

 

[LuxWanderer]

Well, I have seen it several places now.

Cantillon says it does not plan to sell any of its seasonal beer to the public at the brewery due to the mules and online sales at crazy prices. No timeline as far as starting again or what they will be doing instead. Much more will be distributed

The few ruining it for everyone.

 

[Beerontwowheels]

I don't see how this really affects secondary sales, but ok. A bottle purchased from a retailer is just as likely to be sold at inflated prices later down the line.

 

[lazerviking]

The few ruining it for everyone.

This should be the new motto for good beer in 2016.

 

[Saind]

Well, I have seen it several places now.

Cantillon says it does not plan to sell any of its seasonal beer to the public at the brewery due to the mules and online sales at crazy prices. No timeline as far as starting again or what they will be doing instead. Much more will be distributed

The few ruining it for everyone.

If it means I can buy shitloads of seasonals through my normal distributor I'll be pretty happy actually.

 

[The Red Viper]

I don't see how this really affects secondary sales, but ok. A bottle purchased from a retailer is just as likely to be sold at inflated prices later down the line.

Well, and also the retailers as often as not are just as guilty of charging ridiculously inflated prices as people who to resell on secondary. At least in the US that's the case. (And more guilty of not actually offering them for sale to the public in a fair and open way etc.)

 

[Saind]

Well, and also the retailers as often as not are just as guilty of charging ridiculously inflated prices as people who to resell on secondary. At least in the US that's the case. (And more guilty of not actually offering them for sale to the public in a fair and open way etc.)

Not that bad around here. Local bar sells Vig for €18, stuff like CSG goes for 12. Prices from the only importer for the country are about the same as buying at the brewery.

 

[mateoloco]

They're apparently sick of the ridiculous prices people are selling the bottles for and are only going to sell directly to distributors/shop owners.

What about Trappist World? Ridiculous prices? Check. Shop owner? Check.

Oh well. Based on those haul picks I think Compton25, BusinessSloth, NAD1983 and a few others brought back most of the lambic from Europe anyway

Hopefully jvr and the crew will get with the times and start kettle souring that **** and pumping it out to the states for them new money palates that can't tell the difference anyway.

 

[mrand01]

Well, I have seen it several places now.

Cantillon says it does not plan to sell any of its seasonal beer to the public at the brewery due to the mules and online sales at crazy prices. No timeline as far as starting again or what they will be doing instead. Much more will be distributed

The few ruining it for everyone.

Any idea if this includes all the popular sites we've been using? My state is ******** and gets no Shelton distro, so sadly most lambics are not possible where I'm at. And trying to hop the pond and compete for them in NYC is not gonna happen. Ugh.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Yawn.

 

[deckardjk]

Any idea if this includes all the popular sites we've been using? My state is ******** and gets no Shelton distro, so sadly most lambics are not possible where I'm at. And trying to hop the pond and compete for them in NYC is not gonna happen. Ugh.

From what Pierre Tilquin was saying a month or two ago... sounds like some of the webshops go around to other shops to scoop up limited beers. So it probably won't really stop that practice. Perhaps prices go up? More crappier bundle packs?

I'm happy I prefer just basic gueuze although it was nice to have a fruited lambic from time to time.

 

[BusinessSloth]

I'm happy I prefer just basic gueuze although it was nice to have a fruited lambic from time to time.

The sooner more people realize this, the better.

 

[Saind]

The sooner more people realize this, the better.

I've never been a big fan of Cantillon's geuze. The kriek is great but if I want a regular geuze I'll take a shelf 3F any day of the week.

 

[holldy01]

Question about boon oude geuze on BiaB. Are the capped ones any different than their corked and caged ones? Is there are reason they are capped and not cork and caged? And why is a crate of it so cheap?

 

[Saind]

Question about boon oude geuze on BiaB. Are the capped ones any different than their corked and caged ones? Is there are reason they are capped and not cork and caged? And why is a crate of it so cheap?

The capped ones aren't the best to age, but I can't taste any difference other than that. Price difference is substantial, but only because of the packaging as far as I can tell.

A crate of it is cheap because they brew a shitload of it

 

[SeaWatchman]

Somehow missed this picture when it got posted, but was chatting with the owner of Miorge Mihoublon and asked if I could post this to the site:

This was served at his place on Zwanze Day 2015. A remake of Zwanze 2012 aka Zwanze 2008 with leftover lambic from the 2015 bottling of LPK. This is what everyone who is drinking "Z12" at the brewery is drinking.

 

[The Red Viper]

Somehow missed this picture when it got posted, but was chatting with the owner of Miorge Mihoublon and asked if I could post this to the site:

This was served at his place on Zwanze Day 2015. A remake of Zwanze 2012 aka Zwanze 2008 with leftover lambic from the 2015 bottling of LPK. This is what everyone who is drinking "Z12" at the brewery is drinking.

And it's gooooood.

 

[BusinessSloth]

I've never been a big fan of Cantillon's geuze. The kriek is great but if I want a regular geuze I'll take a shelf 3F any day of the week.

Oh I'm the same. I love old Cantillon Gueuze though. That lemony thing that typically appears is nice

 

[BusinessSloth]

Somehow missed this picture when it got posted, but was chatting with the owner of Miorge Mihoublon and asked if I could post this to the site:

This was served at his place on Zwanze Day 2015. A remake of Zwanze 2012 aka Zwanze 2008 with leftover lambic from the 2015 bottling of LPK. This is what everyone who is drinking "Z12" at the brewery is drinking.

That makes sense. The rhubarb tasted very fresh.

 

[Abitker]

I don't see how this really affects secondary sales, but ok. A bottle purchased from a retailer is just as likely to be sold at inflated prices later down the line.

Agreed, and like others have said, it's often the retailers who are taking part in this practice.

 

[bvdubn1]

I've never been a big fan of Cantillon's geuze. The kriek is great but if I want a regular geuze I'll take a shelf 3F any day of the week.

 

[andrewdrinks]

That makes sense. The rhubarb tasted very fresh.

Were you at Soho for Zwanze 15? We were there with LuxWanderer - good times. That Rhubarbe was great.

 

[andrewdrinks]

Over in London and Padraig has popped a 3F Doesjel 2006 and 2009.

2009 has carbed up, little ring of head. 2006 looks dead but coats the tongue nicely with CO2.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Were you at Soho for Zwanze 15? We were there with LuxWanderer - good times. That Rhubarbe was great.

No sir. I just recently took a trip to Brussels and visited a few cities around Belgium. I am discussing the possibility of attending Tour de Geuze 2017 though with my friends, so if you're going, I'd love to meetup!