Lambic Discussion Thread

[SeaWatchman]

Is this where you follow up with the obligatory "send it to me for proper disposal" response?

Also cant tell if you are trolling or serious because im pretty sure pellicles are pretty common. What makes you say there "definitely should not be?"

No, please do not send to me for proper disposal. Unless you're misinterpreting what a pellicle is on there (I don't think you are), how many pellicles have you seen in bottles before? That's something that just shouldn't be occurring.

 

[tennispl]

No, please do not send to me for proper disposal. Unless you're misinterpreting what a pellicle is on there (I don't think you are), how many pellicles have you seen in bottles before? That's something that just shouldn't be occurring.

Hypothetically, it should be possible right? Pellicles form from bacterial interaction with unfermented sugar, and both of those are present in the bottle during bottle carbonation (admittedly, at very low concentrations normally), so although it is probably extremely unlikely, I'd be surprised if it was impossible (or even a problem)

 

[Hookemhops13]

Hypothetically, it should be possible right? Pellicles form from bacterial interaction with unfermented sugar, and both of those are present in the bottle during bottle carbonation (admittedly, at very low concentrations normally), so although it is probably extremely unlikely, I'd be surprised if it was impossible (or even a problem)

I was under the impression it was from exposure to oxygen. So theoretically if the bottle seal was compromised that much you could get oxygen in the botitle and a pellicle could form but I've never heard of that before...

 

[stupac2]

Hypothetically, it should be possible right? Pellicles form from bacterial interaction with unfermented sugar, and both of those are present in the bottle during bottle carbonation (admittedly, at very low concentrations normally), so although it is probably extremely unlikely, I'd be surprised if it was impossible (or even a problem)

If you've got enough microbial activity that they form a pellicle then I'd expect that the bottle would explode. Even infected beers that are so overcarbed they turn completely to foam don't have pellicles...

 

[ExtremistCow1]

Hypothetically, it should be possible right? Pellicles form from bacterial interaction with unfermented sugar, and both of those are present in the bottle during bottle carbonation (admittedly, at very low concentrations normally), so although it is probably extremely unlikely, I'd be surprised if it was impossible (or even a problem)

Naw, pellicles form as a biofilm to protect against oxygen. If you see one in a bottle, there's probably oxygen getting thru the cork.

 

[thefleshlight]

TFW you check and see the euro is up 4 cents vs. the USD

 

[MooseLang]

I've had pellicles develop in bottles of funky homebrew that I may or may not have bottled too early. Once they drop in the bottle though, I've never had any problems.

 

[nophunk]

I've also enjoyed '14 RdG about as much as any framboise short of LPF.

The 14 I opened in January-ish was absolutely fantastic, 100% agree.

 

[tennispl]

I was under the impression it was from exposure to oxygen. So theoretically if the bottle seal was compromised that much you could get oxygen in the botitle and a pellicle could form but I've never heard of that before...

Naw, pellicles form as a biofilm to protect against oxygen. If you see one in a bottle, there's probably oxygen getting thru the cork.

Alright fine, thank you for the correction but my point wasn't about their formation as much as the presence of one should be possible in the bottle and if it is as he described, which was a "pellicle line" and not an active, sitting pellicle, the bottle is probably still fine. Excessively acetic maybe, sure, but not some death bottle that should be disposed of immediately.

 

[drgarage1]

Just to echo that pellicles indicate nothing about carbonation level -- just oxygen and the presence of Brett and/or bacteria.

 

[ASUBeer]

You guys still use etre?

Message me with some new recommendations.

 

[thefleshlight]

Message me with some new recommendations.

Me too

 

[Shakedwnst]

If there are any bottles left after they clean out the site, let me know too.

 

[stakem1]

Just to echo that pellicles indicate nothing about carbonation level -- just oxygen and the presence of Brett and/or bacteria.

This.

I believe pellicles form inside bottles of geuze far more frequently than most think. Its just a matter of them being disturbed, falling to the bottom with the rest of the sediment and never being seen/reformed again.

Lambic has an array of pellicle forming microbes and has several points in the blending/bottling process where the necessary oxygen exposure occurs. Im guessing most lambic brewers/blenders do not purge oxygen out of bottles at bottling time. All bottle conditioned geuze referments inside the bottle creating the potential for pellicle formation.

 

[Pneill3161]

I've had pellicles develop in bottles of funky homebrew that I may or may not have bottled too early. Once they drop in the bottle though, I've never had any problems.

This.

I believe pellicles form inside bottles of geuze far more frequently than most think. Its just a matter of them being disturbed, falling to the bottom with the rest of the sediment and never being seen/reformed again.

Lambic has an array of pellicle forming microbes and has several points in the blending/bottling process where the necessary oxygen exposure occurs. Im guessing most lambic brewers/blenders do not purge oxygen out of bottles at bottling time. All bottle conditioned geuze referments inside the bottle creating the potential for pellicle formation.

All homebrewed lambics, gueuze and wilds I have done have had pellicle's form while bottle conditioning. I assume they are formed due to the small amount of oxygen in the head space as I don't purge. They have never been affected negatively.

 

[capnmike]

Admitted noob, I've never heard the word "pellicle" before today...I HAVE heard this rhyming word...

 

[FTowne1]

Admitted noob, I've never heard the word "pellicle" before today...I HAVE heard this rhyming word...

Pretty cool ****:
http://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/ill-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours-pellicles.3461/

 

[drgarage1]

Admitted noob, I've never heard the word "pellicle" before today...I HAVE heard this rhyming word...

Still waiting for Cigar City to drop a beer called Rum Tum Tugger.

 

[capnmike]

Pretty cool ****:
http://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/ill-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours-pellicles.3461/

Thanks for the link - that was intense, will revisit.

 

[boogercrack]

TFW you check and see the euro is up 4 cents vs. the USD

still a fuckton better than three years ago or so at ~1.5:1

 

[Padraig]

Just dropped my Zomer off with Padraig to complete the seasons set ahead of our tasting session... And now I'll never hear from him again.

*stuffs empty bottles down back of couch*

 

[SeaWatchman]

 

[JulianB1]

Cool, but what does this have to do with scoring lambic deals from online web shops? Think you posted this in the wrong thread.

 

[thefleshlight]

Cool, but what does this have to do with scoring lambic deals from online web shops? Think you posted this in the wrong thread.

 

[Pneill3161]

Damn my cloudberry source in Alaska said this year was **** for cloudberries. She only could come up with a hand full. Guess I'll have to wait again to make my soliel clone .

 

[boogercrack]

Damn my cloudberry source in Alaska said this year was **** for cloudberries. She only could come up with a hand full. Guess I'll have to wait again to make my soliel clone .

just ******** it and use something close.

i'd guess 1% of the population knows what cloudberries taste like. and half of them are full of ****.

 

[mctizzz]

SpontanBasil approved on August 1, 2015 for U.S. distro.

Anyone else notice anything weird about the volume listed on the label?

 

[boogercrack]

Spoiler: check the volume

The J Wakefield School of Volume Measurements and Stuff

 

[thefleshlight]

Anyone else notice anything weird about the volume listed on the label?

Ya, that's 500mL in conversion from 16.9oz but the bottle is definitely 750 I think.

Unless it's 5" thick glass like the stone BA bottles...

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

Anyone else notice anything weird about the volume listed on the label?

1pt .9 fl oz is 500ml. good catch