Lambic Discussion Thread

[Rowingbrewer1]

The worst thing about all of this is that this only encourages even higher pricing and even worse deals in the future. But it's supply and demand, after all..

No kidding. I wish people would realize this. Like the 25ish euro 1 year old bottles of gueuze Kriek and rose that sit for a while but still get bought up. It's not worth it people, don't buy an the price will come down

 

[LukeAleTime]

The worst thing about all of this is that this only encourages even higher pricing and even worse deals in the future. But it's supply and demand, after all..

I'm wondering how many are going to be sent back.... All of the packs disappeared pretty quick but with the volume of returns right now it seems like not many will make it through.

 

[jmarce]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141629099850

 

[jbeezification1]

You would think the labels would be in much worse condition.

 

[falc0n26001]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141629099850

You would think the labels would be in much worse condition.

Not sure if it's related, but a guy posted in the lambic lovers facebook group about a wine collector who just died who also had some lambic. He posted a haul of some bottles of Gueuze from the 70s or 80s that looked to be in similarly perfect condition. Never taken out of the box. Same cellar?

 

[SeaWatchman]

Not sure if it's related, but a guy posted in the lambic lovers facebook group about a wine collector who just died who also had some lambic. He posted a haul of some bottles of Gueuze from the 70s or 80s that looked to be in similarly perfect condition. Never taken out of the box. Same cellar?

Same, yes

 

[NAPO]

Absolute pleasure drinking this bad boy. Perfect tartness.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Absolute pleasure drinking this bad boy. Perfect tartness.

b1 or b2? B1 bottle I had was an incredible experience. Batch 2 was awful.

 

[HenrikO]

b1 or b2? B1 bottle I had was an incredible experience. Batch 2 was awful.

Batch 2 Hommage awful? You cray-cray, Sloth. ISO your leftover b2 Hommage, FT Swedish massage.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Batch 2 Hommage awful? You cray-cray, Sloth. ISO your leftover b2 Hommage, FT Swedish massage.

I sent mine far away a long time ago But yes the bottle I had was medicinal and band-aidy in the aroma+slightly noticeable in the flavor as well.

But I'd like to offer you an American reach-around for that Swede massage.

 

[HenrikO]

But I'd like to offer you an American reach-around for that Swede massage.

DONE

No band-aids in any of the Hommage b2s I've tasted. Just jammy sour funky berry goodness. Damn dat lambic bottle variation, huh?

 

[Odesseiron]

Only had Hommage b2 once, but it might just be the best fruit lambic I've tasted.

 

[BusinessSloth]

DONE

No band-aids in any of the Hommage b2s I've tasted. Just jammy sour funky berry goodness. Damn dat lambic bottle variation, huh?

Only had Hommage b2 once, but it might just be the best fruit lambic I've tasted.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[ridglens]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

the one i opened a while ago (last summer?) was incredible up front, with a little bit of the plasticy/bandaidy stuff at the end, but felt like it was cleaning up maybe.

The good was far better than the bad, though!

i'm laying a few down from different sources hoping to nail some great ones, but hey it's lambic

 

[Odesseiron]

Had mine at Akkurat in January, so makes sense if it got its **** together a bit since then.

 

[pmoney]

the one i opened a while ago (last summer?) was incredible up front, with a little bit of the plasticy/bandaidy stuff at the end, but felt like it was cleaning up maybe.

The good was far better than the bad, though!

i'm laying a few down from different sources hoping to nail some great ones, but hey it's lambic

Had mine at Akkurat in January, so makes sense if it got its **** together a bit since then.

I could refer back to my BJCP binder, but I'm sure this will be answered in two seconds. Remind me what produces the band-aid off-flavor/aroma. And is that something that usually cleans up over time?

 

[ridglens]

I could refer back to my BJCP binder, but I'm sure this will be answered in two seconds. Remind me what produces the band-aid off-flavor/aroma. And is that something that usually cleans up over time?

@someonesmarterthanme

 

[Odesseiron]

Chlorophenol at least. And there's not much a heavy brett/bug combo won't clean up

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

Hommage B2 and 11 Framboos I had fairly recently both tasted great, but each had some serious band aid presence on nose and some in taste. More so on the Boos that night, and even more on an old LPF. I'm wondering how this new Framboos is out of the gate.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Chlorophenol at least. And there's not much a heavy brett/bug combo won't clean up

Chlorophenol at least. And there's not much a heavy brett/bug combo won't clean up

Yeah, it's chlorophenols.

 

[Odesseiron]

Some people just confuse it with the heavy barn taste some brett strains and utilizations give off, though.

 

[pmoney]

Yeah, it's chlorophenols.

And is that something that will typically clean up? Maybe not too quickly considering people are saying '11 Boos still has the band-aid thing going on.

 

[tehzachatak]

And is that something that will typically clean up? Maybe not too quickly considering people are saying '11 Boos still has the band-aid thing going on.

Not sure where I got this understanding, and it could be totally wrong, but I always understood chlorophenols to be a pretty difficult to recover from flaw, hence the extreme importance in making sure you have good water... I don't know that they CAN'T be cleaned up, but they certainly don't easily clean up and sometimes will persist for a very long time. Whereas other phenols can clean up pretty quickly, especially the ones that come across as "smoky."

I also didn't think bandaid was automatically chlorophenol, though.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

Anyone ever try to use lambic to make ceviche? I saw some pairings recommended on line but now one using lambic to cook the fish. I know not all lambic will have a low enough pH to do it, but things like hanssens experimental likely would. thoughts?

 

[GuzzleMcBrew]

Some people just confuse it with the heavy barn taste some brett strains and utilizations give off, though.

I also didn't think bandaid was automatically chlorophenol, though.

No science or research to back this up, but based on my experiences it seems like the combination of Raspberry and some kind of Wild Culture (whether Brett, Lacto, Pedio; I have no idea) will produce some plastic/rubber odors and tastes [sometimes].

A couple of us shared a Bier Noir from De Garde the other day and the beer tasted exceptional but had the weirdest, most medicinal funk on the nose of almost any beer I have experienced. Seems like this is the case with a good number of Raspberry sours, particularly older ones.

As I mentioned, the LPF, Boos and Hommage all seemed to have some rubber going on that night - of a gauntlet of Lambic consumed, the only other beer of the evening that seemed to have even the slightest element akin to this was an 04 LPG, and that was only faintly in the finish. Could just be coincidence.

 

[boogercrack]

having plowed through WAY more than a fair share of Hommage b2... there's a fuckload of bottle variation.

some were bad. some were the best beer i've ever had. all sourced from the same location at the same time.

i am a gamblin' man.

 

[BusinessSloth]

having plowed through WAY more than a fair share of Hommage b2... there's a fuckload of bottle variation.

some were bad. some were the best beer i've ever had. all sourced from the same location at the same time.

i am a gamblin' man.

y u no drink lambic with me? Do you hate mammals?

 

[drgarage1]

Not sure where I got this understanding, and it could be totally wrong, but I always understood chlorophenols to be a pretty difficult to recover from flaw, hence the extreme importance in making sure you have good water... I don't know that they CAN'T be cleaned up, but they certainly don't easily clean up and sometimes will persist for a very long time. Whereas other phenols can clean up pretty quickly, especially the ones that come across as "smoky."

I also didn't think bandaid was automatically chlorophenol, though.

Rubber/smoke polyphenols will never clean up that's the worst one.

 

[The Red Viper]

I sent mine far away a long time ago But yes the bottle I had was medicinal and band-aidy in the aroma+slightly noticeable in the flavor as well.

But I'd like to offer you an American reach-around for that Swede massage.

I agree, the b2 Hommage I had had metallic/bandaid flavors for sure. My friends opened their bottle and same thing. Nothing terrible but it wasn't half as good as Rose or 3F Oude Kriek or a bunch of other regularly available stuff.

 

[boogercrack]

y u no drink lambic with me? Do you hate mammals?

i don't get out much.