Lambic Discussion Thread

[jbeezification1]

While yes Spon is good I wouldn't say it is the best American representation of the style, I feel like Resurgam is. Its all opinion though.

I haven't had the pleasure. ISO

 

[DCLA]

Well, without the bread, I think we would have to agree that it is spon, right?

FTFY

 

[ggfunk]

stillnotlambic.jpg

 

[Lamnic]

New website dedicated to "Methode Traditionelle"

https://methodetraditionelle.org/

Get out your reading glasses

 

[Lamnic]

I also just want to point out that as long as Americans are making wild ales that are more expensive at the source than lambics I can order online shipped to my door, I'll continue to buy only 1 just to try it, and carry on with my cases of Girardin and 3F gueuze

 

[64vdub]

Am I missing something, or isn't 'American Wild Ale' the perfect term for JK Spon? When I read the 'Methode Gueuze' on the label last year, my hipster alert siren went off, and I had to calm down my grandma and tell her everything would be okay.

 

[nathanmiller]

If you put lambic between two slices of bread, is it now a sandwich?

Okay now we're talking about my favorite topic of all! Is the lambic still in a bottle? Is it in some kind of edible pouch? Or is it just straight soaking the bread? Is this like the Kendrick Lamar line, "I remember lambic sandwiches and wort allowances"?

I would agree if they had some type of legal protection on the name and style (here in the US), but they don't. They have a voluntary label that can be used. Nothing is stopping any brewery from putting the name "lambic" or "lambic-inspired" or whatever they want on their beer and selling it. And they can make it any way they like. They just can't used the MT label and term unless they are following those guidelines. There are countless examples of similar situations such as "Made in the USA" label or the countless labels for cheese, beef, milk, or any other food or beverage. There are still other manufactures who make in the USA but don't use the label cause they don't want to be part of that group. It doesn't make their product less usa made because of a lack of label.

Don't disrespect our flag with your non-made in the USA cheeses.

We could make a lager and call it lambic-lager if we really wanted to.

ISO Lambic Lager

 

[wolfman1201]

Okay now we're talking about my favorite topic of all! Is the lambic still in a bottle? Is it in some kind of edible pouch? Or is it just straight soaking the bread? Is this like the Kendrick Lamar line, "I remember lambic sandwiches and wort allowances"?

 

[matedog]

Am I missing something, or isn't 'American Wild Ale' the perfect term for JK Spon? When I read the 'Methode Gueuze' on the label last year, my hipster alert siren went off, and I had to calm down my grandma and tell her everything would be okay.

I see why they want to differentiate from AWA. AWA can mean anything from just a straight non-BA brett beer to the "everything but the terrior" lambic clone JK is doing. That's a very broad flavor spectrum, so not a terribly helpful label. Not unlike someone telling you a beer is an ale or lager. To make matters worse, most lambic homages aren't even done remotely close to real lambic and consequently lack some very distinct lambic flavor characteristics (I'm thinking Rueuze, DDG, hell even Beat). Spon on the other hand, did have some of those distinct lambic characteristics.

So if non-Pajottenland brewers want to more closely replicate the lambic process and ultimately get something that tastes similar to lambic, then I'm for having a label to differentiate from other "wild" beers.

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

Am I missing something, or isn't 'American Wild Ale' the perfect term for JK Spon? When I read the 'Methode Gueuze' on the label last year, my hipster alert siren went off, and I had to calm down my grandma and tell her everything would be okay.

Where was she in line?

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

New website dedicated to "Methode Traditionelle"

https://methodetraditionelle.org/

Get out your reading glasses

This just makes me want to start Method Traditional for traditional method kettle sours with some ****** logo

Instant authenticity

 

[callmemickey]

https://methodetraditionelle.org/standards/

Who wants to start "signing" the "agreement" on behalf of a few breweries???

 

[lambandtunaphish]

https://methodetraditionelle.org/standards/

Who wants to start "signing" the "agreement" on behalf of a few breweries???

Already signed on behalf or Turtleback Ridge.

 

[MikeG1]

https://methodetraditionelle.org/standards/

Who wants to start "signing" the "agreement" on behalf of a few breweries???

Upland in the house

 

[mvl339]

Does the label lambic or gueuze really hold much legal weight even in Belgium? Can't you go into a supermarket in Brussels and pick up some sweetened crap labelled lambic? If anybody's tarnished or confused people about the definition of lambic in the US it's Lindemans and not these small AWA brewers.

 

[falc0n26001]

Does the label lambic or gueuze really hold much legal weight even in Belgium? Can't you go into a supermarket in Brussels and pick up some sweetened crap labelled lambic? If anybody's tarnished or confused people about the definition of lambic in the US it's Lindemans and not these small AWA brewers.

The “oude” designation is what’s important in Belgium.

 

[Saind]

when did Girardin start doing this?

 

[SeaWatchman]

https://methodetraditionelle.org/standards/

Who wants to start "signing" the "agreement" on behalf of a few breweries???

I call Trinity!

 

[JBP]

New website dedicated to "Methode Traditionelle"

https://methodetraditionelle.org/

Get out your reading glasses

Here's a crazy idea, make some good beer, sell it, and chill with the dissertations. I'm a fan of their beer but this whole thing is/has been just so insufferable.

 

[ccbstl]

https://methodetraditionelle.org/standards/

Who wants to start "signing" the "agreement" on behalf of a few breweries???

ABinbev taken care of!

 

[mvl339]

The “oude” designation is what’s important in Belgium.

So if Trinity, Upland etc. isn't calling their stuff Oude Gueuze, who cares? Is their "lambic" really any worse than the sweetened Lindeman's crap that's way more well known?

 

[TripleSixHoppia]

This just makes me want to start Method Traditional for traditional method kettle sours with some ****** logo

Instant authenticity

I already did. Step off.

https://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/protecting-tradition.36183/

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

I already did. Step off.

https://www.talkbeer.com/community/threads/protecting-tradition.36183/

That's why I'm calling mine method traditional so it's completely different and in no way appropriating your idea.

Find out more at methodtraditional.xxx/kettle-sour-lambic/budweiser-collaboration.txt

 

[MikeG1]

I'm working on Method Florida-Diabetes-Stout. Very strict standards, including Kickstarter money needed, in order to qualify.

 

[64vdub]

Where was she in line?

I see what you did there, but yeah, no...never been to JK.

 

[cyde]

I'm working on Method Florida-Diabetes-Stout. Very strict standards, including Kickstarter money needed, in order to qualify.

Rigid standards indeed.
****-ton of oats: check
Lactose in every beer: check

 

[Shakedwnst]

Rigid standards indeed.
****-ton of oats: check
Lactose in every beer: check

Is that the tired hands formula?

 

[cyde]

Is that the tired hands formula?

It's the beer formula for customers who don't like the taste of actual beer.

 

[isaac11]

07/2016, Fill line on the bottles I have for this batch seem to be right up near the cork/top of the bottle and the carbonation seems crazy high, which surprises me in a beer like this, but is ever so delightful. I'd say its been about a year since I've had this, but it's been one of my favorites. Opened near room temperature, I get hints of apple, which I typically seem to pick up more in Boon, and a mellow smooth body though out.

 

[bostonvert]

You don't get to try a new lambic everyday! it's a very drinkable gueuze, very soft in flavors with a very subtle sourness to it. You could easily drink a couple, reminds me of Moriau or a softer version of Cuvee Renee. I had the impression that it was pretty young, I'm sure this one will improve with another year or more in the cellar.

They will be available on the 4th in select local shops in the Zenne area.