Lambic Discussion Thread

[tom10101]

Is there any de cam that is recent that is really good?

Oude Kriek bottled last spring is probably the best Kriek I have ever had. Super fruity, but also a wonderful mineral/earthy character that there's quite often in De Cam lambics. The last bottle I had a few weeks ago was starting to get a little less fruity, but there's still plenty of cherries and it's super cohesive.

Lambiek Special is wonderful. I need more of this.

The 3 years old unblended lambiek (worth was from Boon) that I had on premise last spring is also the amongst the best unblended lambics I have tried so far. So smooth. I could drink gallons of this. No idea if it has been bottled though. The Kriek Lambiek I had on premise (from the tank) was wonderfully fruity. I haven't tried it from bottle for a while, but a friend told me it was really good. Can't wait to open one.

I will echo the others... there's only the recent bottled unblended lambic that might not be top notch at the moment and I would still not bet against it down the road.

 

[Pneill3161]

Has anyone else gotten recent de cam Oude lambiek with the old label from 2001 with the date crossed out? Wondering if this is the newest batch and hopefully not the US import batch.

 

[tom10101]

Two really nice surprises recently:

- Boon Oude Geuze (375 ml) bottled on 14-08-2013

- Oud Beersel Oude Gueuze (750 ml) bottled on 04-04-2013

I'm pretty sure these gueuzes would both rank very low in a blind tasting w/ small pours because they are so soft, but it's so easy to drink an whole bottle (or two) of those. Both are superb, easy to find and cheap "everyday" gueuzes.

 

[KeKeKumba]

Oud Beersel Oude Gueuze (750 ml) bottled on 04-04-2013

Nice, I've got a ton of those. Guess I should finally open one this weekend.

 

[MChand2]

Dat 3 Fonteinen 1998 Oude Geuze. Can't wait for my birthday to roll around next month. Compton25, MChand2 and I are going to have one hell of a bottle share...

Holy hell!! You are seriously bringing the heat

 

[SeaWatchman]

X-post.

Checking in on some bottles of this and it's quite sour now with an almost cranberry like characteristic to the fruit. Still some grape flavor left as well, and it's starting to get into that old funky/musty/leathery space that older Cantillon seems to get. 2005 is still one of the standout years for their fruit beers in my mind. Tiny bit of carbonation left.

 

[matedog]

X-post.

Checking in on some bottles of this and it's quite sour now with an almost cranberry like characteristic to the fruit. Still some grape flavor left as well, and it's starting to get into that old funky/musty/leathery space that older Cantillon seems to get. 2005 is still one of the standout years for their fruit beers in my mind. Tiny bit of carbonation left.

375 or is that just the biggest Cantillon glass ever?

 

[SeaWatchman]

375 or is that just the biggest Cantillon glass ever?

375

#forcedperspective

 

[owlsandcrows]

X-post.

Checking in on some bottles of this and it's quite sour now with an almost cranberry like characteristic to the fruit. Still some grape flavor left as well, and it's starting to get into that old funky/musty/leathery space that older Cantillon seems to get. 2005 is still one of the standout years for their fruit beers in my mind. Tiny bit of carbonation left.

Just made an IP exchange for my first bottle of St. Lam, very excited to get into it!

 

[foscorelli]

Just made an IP exchange for my first bottle of St. Lam, very excited to get into it!

 

[Stevedore1]

Don't know if anyone has asked this before, but...

What do lambic blenders do with the spent fruit after the fruit lambic in question has been packaged? Does it simply go the way of the spent grains from the brewing process? Do they dump it or do something else with it?

I want second-use cherry Kriek pie.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Don't know if anyone has asked this before, but...

What do lambic blenders do with the spent fruit after the fruit lambic in question has been packaged? Does it simply go the way of the spent grains from the brewing process? Do they dump it or do something else with it?

I want second-use cherry Kriek pie.

I was under the impression that the fruit completely macerates into the beer to the point of becoming sediment.

 

[Beerontwowheels]

I was under the impression that the fruit completely macerates into the beer to the point of becoming sediment.

That hasn't my experience when using cherries in a sour beer. I pitted and halved my cherries and they remained mostly intact when I racked the beer off 2 months later. Could have probably used them in a pie if I had any inclination to do some baking.

 

[BusinessSloth]

That hasn't my experience when using cherries in a sour beer. I pitted and halved my cherries and they mostly intact when I racked the beer off 2 months later. Could have probably used them in a pie if I had any inclination to do some baking.

Maybe it varies? I don't know that I've ever seen an explanation on lambic.info

 

[thrashD]

I was under the impression that the fruit completely macerates into the beer to the point of becoming sediment.

That hasn't my experience when using cherries in a sour beer. I pitted and halved my cherries and they mostly intact when I racked the beer off 2 months later. Could have probably used them in a pie if I had any inclination to do some baking.

Maybe it varies? I don't know that I've ever seen an explanation on lambic.info

There's some info from Shelton that suggests that at least for Cantillon Kriek, the entire cherry is dissolved over time, including the pit, when added to lambic:

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/beers/cantillon-kriek/

 

[drgarage1]

I've re-used cherries between multiple sours. Could be a length of time issue -- I've never let it run more than two months. And I'm not working with lambic, also.

 

[deckardjk]

Longest I've let fruit go on my sours is 3 months. They were still pretty whole looking and floating. They taste super sour and funky. I think it would take a very long time for them to totally break down. Even then I doubt the skins/pit would totally disintegrate.

 

[SeaWatchman]

There's some info from Shelton that suggests that at least for Cantillon Kriek, the entire cherry is dissolved over time, including the pit, when added to lambic:

http://www.sheltonbrothers.com/beers/cantillon-kriek/

Yeah, they definitely don't just dissolve completely over time.

Maybe it varies? I don't know that I've ever seen an explanation on lambic.info

I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the fruit just gets thrown away, at least that's what two different people have told me affiliated with two different breweries.

 

[Doc1]

Has anyone who acquired a '14 Framboos from Etre received anything other than just a receipt? It's been awhile since my last order and I can't remember an approx. timeline before receiving shipping info.

 

[Rowingbrewer1]

Has anyone who acquired a '14 Framboos from Etre received anything other than just a receipt? It's been awhile since my last order and I can't remember an approx. timeline before receiving shipping info.

usually a day short of forever

 

[HenrikO]

Has anyone who acquired a '14 Framboos from Etre received anything other than just a receipt? It's been awhile since my last order and I can't remember an approx. timeline before receiving shipping info.

My shipment is in transit to Sweden, got the notification middle of last week.

 

[BusinessSloth]

I'm trying to squeeze as much time as I can on my Framboos+box. Still have ~3 spots open in this box, MVB drops this weekend, and a few other deals I'm working on.

 

[HenrikO]

Blah blah blah MVB drops this weekend blah

What is MVB?
Is it sour?
Is it .rar?

 

[Doc1]

What is MVB?
Is it sour?
Is it .rar?

Montmorency vs. Batalon, Jester King sour with cherries

Also what's the story with "adding" to an Etre box? I just checked out with the Boos, didn't realize I could go back and modify.

 

[kscaldef]

What is MVB?
Is it sour?
Is it .rar?

Montmorency vs Balaton is the only beer I know by that abbreviation.

 

[BadJustin]

What is MVB?
Is it sour?
Is it .rar?

Another overhyped Jester King beer that will be a huge let down. YMMV.

 

[HenrikO]

Got it, Jester King.
Somehow thought it was a Euro sour of some type since I misunderstood and thought BusinessSloth was adding it to his etre box.

 

[BusinessSloth]

Montmorency vs. Batalon, Jester King sour with cherries

Also what's the story with "adding" to an Etre box? I just checked out with the Boos, didn't realize I could go back and modify.

You....didn't know you could reserve beer at etre and pay for shipping when you want to or fill you box up? Or am I mis-reading?

 

[Doc1]

You....didn't know you could reserve beer at etre and pay for shipping when you want to or fill you box up?

No I did not

 

[BusinessSloth]

No I did not

Go to etre page, find the shipping policy link toward bottom left of the page. They make you ship every quarter anything on reserve. Now you know though!