FIB War Room

[middlebrow]

Looks like I have a well-timed visit from the MIL that will prevent me from making the VSOJ/Code Switch release. With a limit of 2 each, I'm guessing they'll sell out.

If any of you FIBs happen to be going to the event and happen to be wanting to buy under your limit, I'd be happy to reimburse you on a "go pick it up for me bro" of either one. Will gladly pay a handling surcharge.

To echo...I gotta play dad then celebrate my birthday with Titus andronicus & ted Leo. Crossing fingers somes left on Saturday, but if not, if some kind soul can spare a can or two of both, i got cash and like a couple free pints when we open in like December.

 

[zieglemt]

To echo...I gotta play dad then celebrate my birthday with Titus andronicus & ted Leo. Crossing fingers somes left on Saturday, but if not, if some kind soul can spare a can or two of both, i got cash and like a couple free pints when we open in like December.

Looks like I have a well-timed visit from the MIL that will prevent me from making the VSOJ/Code Switch release. With a limit of 2 each, I'm guessing they'll sell out.

If any of you FIBs happen to be going to the event and happen to be wanting to buy under your limit, I'd be happy to reimburse you on a "go pick it up for me bro" of either one. Will gladly pay a handling surcharge.

No promises (yet), but I should be able to get you both. I'm good with a 4 of each, or even less, and I will have a buddy in town that wouldn't be taking any home. I'm only a few blocks from there so I'm pretty sure we'll be going over.

 

[BobCobb1]

No promises (yet), but I should be able to get you both. I'm good with a 4 of each, or even less, and I will have a buddy in town that wouldn't be taking any home. I'm only a few blocks from there so I'm pretty sure we'll be going over.

If I can't manage to ingratiate myself to zieglemt's buddy in the next 4 days, I'll start the line for anyone not buying full VSOJ allotment. Or who would rather have code switch. [Edit: after non-attendees are good]

 

[beeraficionado]

Lots of solid offers coming in on our Instagram post for anyone who wants to flip their 2-3 year barrel-aged barleywine for out of distro juice. Better act fast though.

 

[middlebrow]

Lots of solid offers coming in on our Instagram post for anyone who wants to flip their 2-3 year barrel-aged barleywine for out of distro juice. Better act fast though.

have we reached peak juice yet? what does 2019 look like? will places continue to release the same yeast/malt bill with a different hop blend every two weeks in a glossy can with a new name? whole industry has a real mid-90's grunge/alt-rock vibe right now (or early-aughts garage rock bands named 'the ....').

 

[jvanaus]

Lots of solid offers coming in on our Instagram post for anyone who wants to flip their 2-3 year barrel-aged barleywine for out of distro juice. Better act fast though.

So this is a question I think I have asked here before, not directly to you, but just in general. How do breweries feel when they see IG / FB / whatever other posts ISO:FT comments with no other substance?

Do you like those posts knowing you have a product that people enjoy and want to have, regardless of location? Or is it annoying to see so many people who don't have much to say other than they want that beer and have other stuff to trade in return?

 

[jvanaus]

have we reached peak juice yet? what does 2019 look like? will places continue to release the same yeast/malt bill with a different hop blend every two weeks in a glossy can with a new name? whole industry has a real mid-90's grunge/alt-rock vibe right now (or early-aughts garage rock bands named 'the ....').

You basically nailed the business models of Other Half, Monkish, Trillium, Tree House, Fieldwork, etc.

Personally, I'm over the haze: it's too expensive and most are not done very well anymore. At some point, breweries should just sell hop pellets to their consumers and say it's a new minimalist style they're trying out. No water, no yeast, no malt, just all hops. IT'S LIKE A DRYHOP IN YOUR MOUTH. Super rare.

 

[middlebrow]

You basically nailed the business models of Other Half, Monkish, Trillium, Tree House, Fieldwork, etc.

Personally, I'm over the haze: it's too expensive and most are not done very well anymore. At some point, breweries should just sell hop pellets to their consumers and say it's a new minimalist style they're trying out. No water, no yeast, no malt, just all hops. IT'S LIKE A DRYHOP IN YOUR MOUTH. Super rare.

Ill contend more than a few of those mentioned are constantly trying new malts, techniques, yeasts and adjuncts. But ****, there’s a ton repackaging damn near the same beer. If making beer for humor wasn’t cost prohibitive, I’d release a new saison every two weeks, in a new package with a different blend of noble hops.

 

[capnmike]

Ill contend more than a few of those mentioned are constantly trying new malts, techniques, yeasts and adjuncts. But ****, there’s a ton repackaging damn near the same beer. If making beer for humor wasn’t cost prohibitive, I’d release a new saison every two weeks, in a new package with a different blend of noble hops.

It’s tariffs, right?

 

[jdhende]

I know it was mentioned we were getting Ale Apothecary awhile back. Anyone know any stores in the city that are carrying their beers? I did a quick search and came up mostly dry.

 

[dgoogle]

have we reached peak juice yet? what does 2019 look like? will places continue to release the same yeast/malt bill with a different hop blend every two weeks in a glossy can with a new name? whole industry has a real mid-90's grunge/alt-rock vibe right now (or early-aughts garage rock bands named 'the ....').

My main issue is the price point...why pay $20 a 4 pack when I can get Gone Away / Lizard King / Anti Hero, etc for half the price. I have admittedly bought a fair share of haze in the past, but it just doesn't add up anymore. Being an adult is expensive enough.

 

[thegoodtimeguy]

I know it was mentioned we were getting Ale Apothecary awhile back. Anyone know any stores in the city that are carrying their beers? I did a quick search and came up mostly dry.

Beer Temple had a bunch Friday night

 

[BobCobb1]

Does anyone expect the going rate on juice to drop at some point from the $16-$20 range? I wonder how much is driven by actual production costs / profit margin vs. current supply/demand? I'm hoping that these could eventually settle in the $12-$14 range over the next few years, but I have no idea if that is even feasible with cost/availability of hops and other inputs.

 

[ThatJackOC]

I know it was mentioned we were getting Ale Apothecary awhile back. Anyone know any stores in the city that are carrying their beers? I did a quick search and came up mostly dry.

Binnys Grand had some last week. $40ish per bottle.

 

[middlebrow]

Does anyone expect the going rate on juice to drop at some point from the $16-$20 range? I wonder how much is driven by actual production costs / profit margin vs. current supply/demand? I'm hoping that these could eventually settle in the $12-$14 range over the next few years, but I have no idea if that is even feasible with cost/availability of hops and other inputs.

as a guy that makes a 6.5% version with rotating hops and a non-cheap yeast, and sells it for 10 bucks per 12oz 4-pack (through a distributor no less!!!), you will see the correction. like a 10 dollar bomber, watch em gain dust and the market correct. but the select few that get the lines for the variation on a theme, the price will remain. ya it requires more hops and the 5 dollars worth of water chemicals, but its like 10/15% more cost than a normal IPA, not 50%.

 

[beeraficionado]

So this is a question I think I have asked here before, not directly to you, but just in general. How do breweries feel when they see IG / FB / whatever other posts ISO:FT comments with no other substance?
Do you like those posts knowing you have a product that people enjoy and want to have, regardless of location? Or is it annoying to see so many people who don't have much to say other than they want that beer and have other stuff to trade in return?

When I saw it last night, my reaction was more like "oh cool, people in Philadelphia and Nashville know and care about V.S.O.J." so I was excited. However, I wish they weren't just offering haze juice in exchange.

have we reached peak juice yet?

I think we're getting pretty close, if we're not already there. I've seen some big stacks of 3 month old juice recently, marked down to fire sale prices.

 

[vav1]

When I saw it last night, my reaction was more like "oh cool, people in Philadelphia and Nashville know and care about V.S.O.J." so I was excited. However, I wish they weren't just offering haze juice in exchange.

I think we're getting pretty close, if we're not already there. I've seen some big stacks of 3 month old juice recently, marked down to fire sale prices.

"the race to the bottom" -donn

 

[DanH11]

When I saw it last night, my reaction was more like "oh cool, people in Philadelphia and Nashville know and care about V.S.O.J." so I was excited. However, I wish they weren't just offering haze juice in exchange.

I think we're getting pretty close, if we're not already there. I've seen some big stacks of 3 month old juice recently, marked down to fire sale prices.

ISO: V.S.O.J
FT: Mead

 

[Tooch4321]

ISO: VSOJ
FT: One knock-knock joke...

 

[YellowBird1]

I know it was mentioned we were getting Ale Apothecary awhile back. Anyone know any stores in the city that are carrying their beers? I did a quick search and came up mostly dry.

 

[middlebrow]

ISO-rev brewing sanctuary beers ; FT-in-state shelf-haze

dope ass approach to non-brett/sour BA beer. color me intrigued.

https://revbrew.com/the-sanctuary-barrel-program

 

[danbanana]

ISO-rev brewing sanctuary beers ; FT-in-state shelf-haze

dope ass approach to non-brett/sour BA beer. color me intrigued.

https://revbrew.com/the-sanctuary-barrel-program

"In January, we’ve got a project that Scott calls “completely mental” [he means that in a good way] - Straight Jacket begun in a WhistlePig Boss Hogg Armagnac barrel, transferred to Heaven Hill bourbon barrels, and topped off with a bit of Very Special Old Ryeway. It’s been aging since late 2016, and is more than ready for its time to shine."

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY ****.

 

[user 306237]

ISO-rev brewing sanctuary beers ; FT-in-state shelf-haze

dope ass approach to non-brett/sour BA beer. color me intrigued.

https://revbrew.com/the-sanctuary-barrel-program

17%?!

SANCTUARY BEERS

• SANCTUARY #8: DOUBLE BARREL LYNOTT’S 2017 STOUT
  
  BARREL-AGED STOUT
  
  16% / -
  
• PRE-SANCTUARY: V.S.O.C.H. (VERY SPECIAL OLD CHERRY HUGENE)
  
  BARREL-AGED PORTER
  
  14% / -
  
• SANCTUARY #1 - VANILLA DOUBLE BARREL V.S.O.D. 2018
  
  BARREL-AGED IMPERIAL STOUT
  
  17% / -
  
• SANCTUARY #18: DOUBLE BARREL BILLY 2018
  
  BARREL-AGED SCOTCH ALE
  
  15.5% / -
  
• SANCTUARY #19: CURSED MAN
  
  BARREL-AGED CUVÉE
  
  17% / -
  

 

[capnmike]

Crowlers?

kidding, of course*

*if the answer is yes, I’m happy to look like an ass

 

[daniel1]

The double barrel vanilla tapping should catapult the December release into absolute mega shitlord territory.

 

[kodt]

There are not one, but two Spumoni stouts being released in Chicagoland this weekend. Have we reached peak adjunct stout yet?

 

[Tooch4321]

beeraficionado So, I can like get crowlers of all those sanctuary beers for science purposes, right?

 

[beeraficionado]

beeraficionado So, I can like get crowlers of all those sanctuary beers for science purposes, right?

 

[jdhende]

Tried VSOJ on draft at Rev tonight. It is absolutely ridiculous. You will not be disappointed with the new batch

 

[rfraga7]

Tried VSOJ on draft at Rev tonight. It is absolutely ridiculous. You will not be disappointed with the new batch

May have to go try it today. Thanks for heads up.