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Co-pitching Verdant and Nottingham (but there's still time to stop me)

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ebbelwoi

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I've just pitched some Lallemand Verdant IPA yeast into a small batch of 1.051 APA. After reading about varying attenuation experiences in the Verdant thread, I've decided to co-pitch some Nottingham in order to get me to about 77% (I mashed quite high at 68C).

I'm thinking of giving the Verdant maybe 48 hours to get a headstart, then adding the Notty. Not planning to dry-hop this batch, fwiw.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is it a crime against brew-manity?
 

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It will work and certainly not a crime, but I doubt Nottingham will get you 77% apparent attenuation when you have mashed that high. Verdant can get you 75-76% apparent attenuation, but you need to mash low and longer*. Nottingham is around 77-79% constantly when mashed low, but does take a hit when mashing high. But I am curious what attenuation you will get.

I am planning on co-pitching Verdant and Nottingham in a 11-13% Stout - Lallemand states a lower alcohol tolerance for Verdant, which is where Nottingham comes in.
 
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When are you planning to add the Nottingham to your batch?
 

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Just a day or 2 ago, was watching this at a YouTube channel I'm watching from time to time...
 
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in order to get me to about 77%
Just checked my brewing software, and it's actually 73.7% I'm shooting for. I pitched the Nottingham today, about 36 hours after the Verdant. It's my first time using Verdant, and I'm really pleased with the aroma I got when I opened the fermenter to add the Notty. I've never had a beer smell quite like that before.
 

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Keep the crystal malt down, and mash low and the verdant will comfortably give good attenuation. I think it’s the best dry yeast for character full uk ales. I don’t like Nottingham at all but that’s just me.

I think you’ll like it, let us know how it turns out
 
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Ended up with 70% attenuation. Not sure whether the Notty did anything (it was an opened package that I had stored in a small ziploc bag). Still made a tasty beer.
 

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Thanks for the data points! I haven't had a chance to try this strain yet, but I'm eager to get my hands on a sachet. It's long past time we got a halfway decent UK ale strain in dry form.
 
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