Cantillon Master Glassware List

[thejukes]

I have a question that's going to seem like a sarcastic rhetorical question, mainly because it is one.

Why are gueuze tumblers sought after while shaker pints are ridiculed?

 

[SeaWatchman]

I have a question that's going to seem like a sarcastic rhetorical question, mainly because it is one.

Why are gueuze tumblers sought after while shaker pints are ridiculed?

Bc lambic bro

 

[stupac2]

I have a question that's going to seem like a sarcastic rhetorical question, mainly because it is one.

Why are gueuze tumblers sought after while shaker pints are ridiculed?

Because they're traditional.

 

[regularjohn]

tumblers are also used for a lot of different styles and drinks where as a shaker pint glass isn't

 

[user 306926]

Why are gueuze tumblers sought after while shaker pints are ridiculed?

From a glassware homie I don't get the appeal either.
Stem or GTFO.

 

[FarmhouseFetish]

I use tumblers sometimes when I drink "shelf" lambic and certain lighter saisons. But the higher end stuff usually gets stem treatment.

 

[Trady]

tumblers are also used for a lot of different styles and drinks where as a shaker pint glass isn't

This is opposite of truth. Shaker pints, in America, as well as much of Europe (though more frequently Nonic-style and larger than 12 oz), are a frequent catch all for many styles of beer in general pubs, and you will much more infrequently find footed or stemware unless in a specialty beer bar that know to serve in proper style glassware. Geuze tumblers are much more frequently sequestered to lambic and other wild ales, and occasionally used in other farmhouse ales like Saisons or Grisettes.

Go to 90% of bars or pubs in the US, UK, Italy, Spain, Germany (admitted mug/stein popularity), and many other major European country and you'll find the majority of beer glassware to be shakers and nonics. You aren't going to find British cask ales, German lagers, American Lagers, and many other smaller European regional styles (Czech, Italian, etc.) in anything with a stem, and certainly not in a Geuze style tumbler.

Try naming 10 bars in the top of your head that you can even specially ask for a Lambic/Geuze tumbler, excluding Wild Ale or Lambic brewpubs or brewery tasting rooms.

The other problem is that the term "tumbler" is a vague term. In the beer community, it almost exclusively refers to a smaller, non-footed, often times angular cut sidewalls, and produced almost only by wild and spontaneously fermented brewers and breweries. The term tumbler is also often used for whiskey glasses, and can really suit a broad variety of glassware in general, even making it hard to differentiate from a Shaker pint in many cases.

 

[thejukes]

As I suspected, there is no reason. I thought maybe I was overlooking something. I should have known better.

Fancy pint glasses are cool with me.

 

[Trady]

As I suspected, there is no reason. I thought maybe I was overlooking something. I should have known better.

Fancy pint glasses are cool with me.

Then you are in the wrooooong thread.

 

[phing]

Armand recommends a use for each:

Tumbler = for young (1st year of bottling or so) gueuze to allow certain undesirable aromas to escape/breathe (sulfur, etc).

3F stem = anything older than 1-2 years (gueuze, krieks, Armand'4, OGV, etc) to keep the precious aroma trapped.

 

[stupac2]

Armand recommends a use for each:

Tumbler = for young (1st year of bottling or so) gueuze to allow certain undesirable aromas to escape/breathe (sulfur, etc).

3F stem = anything older than 1-2 years (gueuze, krieks, Armand'4, OGV, etc) to keep the precious aroma trapped.

Funny, that's not how they do it in their restaurant!

 

[kevanb]

nerds

 

[phing]

Funny, that's not how they do it in their restaurant!

I know. It's not how it's done almost anywhere over there (although, you do see a fair amount of lambic served with a Cantillon stem). Seems like 80% tumblers. The 3F stems probably break too easily in restaurant use, cost too much, etc. More of a recommendation for personal use...

 

[stupac2]

I know. It's not how it's done almost anywhere over there (although, you do see a fair amount of lambic served with a Cantillon stem). Seems like 80% tumblers. The 3F stems probably break too easily in restaurant use, cost too much, etc. More of a recommendation for personal use...

I wonder if that's why Cantillon made that gold balloon, it's a much heftier glass. It's also the only non-tumbler I can recall seeing in use for lambic at any Belgian bar.

 

[Corbot_3000]

Does anybody have any idea how many Quintesence and JK Zwanze 2012 glass were made? I'm having such a hard time landing both of them, I've about given up.

 

[CheapBeerBuzz]

Does anybody have any idea how many Quintesence and JK Zwanze 2012 glass were made? I'm having such a hard time landing both of them, I've about given up.

My guess is zero 2012 JK Zwanze glasses were made. They didn't host and didn't even have an onsite liquor license at that time.

2013, I have heard 120.

 

[Corbot_3000]

My guess is zero 2012 JK Zwanze glasses were made. They didn't host and didn't even have an onsite liquor license at that time.

2013, I have heard 120.

I meant 2013, sometimes I travel back in time and forget what year it actually is.

 

[Lutter]

My guess is zero 2012 JK Zwanze glasses were made. They didn't host and didn't even have an onsite liquor license at that time.

2013, I have heard 120.

More than 120... although I like the idea that at one time I owned 10% of them (I've got 2 left and they're all mine. ). I think it was closer to 600-700. They lasted for Zwanze Day weekend and another weekend afterwards. Most people were buying 2+ and the place was packed.

 

[matedog]

At the bare minimum, shaker glasses have zero aesthetic appeal. Gueuze tumblers are moderately better. And anything associated with gueuze/lambic is going to have some of inherent appeal.

 

[Corbot_3000]

Managed to track down a Quintessence glass!

 

[CheapBeerBuzz]

OK, for those that care and updated summary/masterlist:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...lYTXJURnBrQ19CWlFIdmR4QUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Please check it out and make edits/additions where necessary. I tried to get the new Zwanze glasses updated here and break them out by year. stupac2, feel free to make your standard formatting edits to my picture links.

 

[stupac2]

OK, for those that care and updated summary/masterlist:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...lYTXJURnBrQ19CWlFIdmR4QUE&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Please check it out and make edits/additions where necessary. I tried to get the new Zwanze glasses updated here and break them out by year. stupac2, feel free to make your standard formatting edits to my picture links.

What am I, your slave?

...Done.

 

[kevanb]

Should the 0.5L Pitcher be added to the list?

 

[CheapBeerBuzz]

Should the 0.5L Pitcher be added to the list?

Yes. And in all formats/colors.

 

[Totoropanda]

I have a zwanze glass from Iowa and 6 degree north. I will added it when i get it in hand.

 

[ChugLife]

Should the 0.5L Pitcher be added to the list?

My fave.

 

[Corbot_3000]

Anybody want to try and update this with 2015 Zwanze glasses? Tempted to hunt them...

Here's some that I know of:

Bar Volo (Toronto):

Side Project (St. Louis):

West Lakeview Liquor Glass (Chicago)

Novare Res Tumbler (Portland, ME):
No Pic Available

Crooked Stave Stemware (Denver):
No Pic Available

 

[cosmicevan]

This was at fool's gold...and I believe other venues

 

[Corbot_3000]

This was at fool's gold...and I believe other venues

Kinda looks like the Cantillon taster they regularly sell.

 

[cosmicevan]

Kinda looks like the Cantillon taster they regularly sell.

logo is much bigger, but yes similar