Bruery Societies 2015 Allocations/Discussion Thread

[franch]

wine barrel aged + wine grapes = high ABV. wine grapes have tons of fermentable sugar, and wine barrel ratchets up the ABV just like bourbon barrels. think of consecration and supplication....they're around 12% iirc.

 

[matedog]

wine barrel aged + wine grapes = high ABV. wine grapes have tons of fermentable sugar, and wine barrel ratchets up the ABV just like bourbon barrels. think of consecration and supplication....they're around 12% iirc.

Supp is 7% ish and Cons is 10%, but point taken.

 

[DougOLis]

lol, I just read that and said out loud, "Man this beer sounds awful".

Yeah, the description versus the name is so confusing. I love white burgundies so this was one of the beers I was most excited about this year. But the fact that they went out and modeled it after a California chardonnay instead of a bourgogne blanc (which are pretty well suited to sour beer flavors) is super confusing. Maybe it will be good but I'm a lot more disappointed by the description than I was expecting to be.

 

[ABSTRACTlegend]

My guess is they fear if they released all the allocations all at once, ppl wouldn't buy it. Thus releasing it once a week, ppl are more likely to purchase all the beers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gotta Get that vertical! most likely people will buy it for this reason alone, regardless of how they release it.

 

[franch]

i hate chardonnay too but temptation is good soooo

 

[StarRaptor1]

i dont understand why they're releasing the arbre beers this way.

yeah, that's the dumbest **** I've ever seen them do

 

[Usofar]

yeah, that's the dumbest **** I've ever seen them do

Built in reminder to renew emails.

 

[BeerHatesRob]

My guess is they fear if they released all the allocations all at once, ppl wouldn't buy it. Thus releasing it once a week, ppl are more likely to purchase all the beers. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gotta Get that vertical! most likely people will buy it for this reason alone, regardless of how they release it.

I was into the Arbre beer when I saw the first label and read the description. Then I read more and started getting confused. So I quit and won't buy any of them. I like things easy. Like eggs and women.

 

[Usofar]

Arbre beer was good. Similar to **** in mouth feel, no sweetness and vanilla from the bourbon though. That's replaced with a dryer toasted oak nuance. Souren, Bourgogne Blanc, and Arbre will be my first purchases of the month. There were strong hints from staff members that additional beers beyond the other Arbre versions will go on sale this month. All were mum as to what those additional beers would be.

 

[daniel1]

There were strong hints from staff members that additional beers beyond the other Arbre versions will go on sale this month. All were mum as to what those additional beers would be.

Haha. Jesus Christ.

 

[Sage1]

Arbre beer was good. Similar to **** in mouth feel […]

Non-beer nerds would be horrified at some of the things we say.

 

[evilc]

Non-beer nerds would be horrified at some of the things we say.

These hops smell like cat piss. So good....

 

[benbikes4beer]

Actually maxed for the first time all year. That Bourgogne Blanc sounds right up my alley (minus the abv...and potential acetic acid to the dome). Ok so partially up my alley.

 

[stakem1]

Anyone else fill out the survey they sent us a litttle while back? I got a response/acknowledgement email today and im kinda pissed about it. Id rather they not reply at all than to reply with a ****** prefab canned response. It looks like they basically took what I assume to be the most popular topics/complaints and wrote us a list of excuses.

Quite frankly I dont care to continually discuss/debate the topic of bottle sizes if you outright say its not a change you are willing to make for the foreseeable future.

When you ask me if im going to renew and I say im undecided because ive already spent alot of money and havent seen half the beers we were told we would, its not cool to go on a rant telling me about the brewing process and how you have no control over when beers are ready. If you dont have control over that - dont set up a ******* release calendar and dont ask people for more money for the next year when you have delivered less than 50% on the current year.

When I tell you I dont enjoy most of your sour beers, the last damn thing I want to read about is the number of sour beers you have planned to share with me...

Bruery...yudodis

 

[stakem1]

On a semi-related note can anyone help me list bruery sours that are lactic in nature instead of acidic?

Hottenroth is the only one that comes to mind... and I have a weird feeling that this is the only one because it utilizes their berliner culture instead of house souring culture.

 

[Xul1]

Anyone else fill out the survey they sent us a litttle while back? I got a response/acknowledgement email today and im kinda pissed about it. Id rather they not reply at all than to reply with a ****** prefab canned response. It looks like they basically took what I assume to be the most popular topics/complaints and wrote us a list of excuses.

Yeah, it was the second time I've received a response that was either fully canned, or more likely, they have a set of paragraphs responding to common complaints that they just copy and paste into the email. I don't really have a strong preference between no response and canned response - both are a bit lame, but I guess someone is more or less paying attention, which is nice. I'm also well aware that they don't need to take complaints too seriously considering people are clamoring to join the RS and will join the PS just for an earlier chance, even when they get **** on with beers like Soroboruo.

I think there's a disconnect at the leadership level at this point and it seems to be filtering down and manifesting as a lack of attention to detail. Emails still go out with typos and incorrect info, items are mispriced every once in a while, sour beers lately have been rushed, bartenders are sharing information that may or may not be correct before official announcements go out, etc. I don't think anyone there individually has bad intentions or is even doing a terrible job, but there doesn't seem to be anyone stepping up and making sure things are done as well as they possibly can be at every level of the company.

In many regards, they're no worse than other breweries, but their whole brand is based on being top of the line, not middle of the pack. I'm still not sure if I'm going to renew, I was really hoping for a mystery beer since that's somewhat indicative of where they're headed in both creativity and execution.

 

[nanobrew1]

I didn't get a recent survey. Was it a separate e-mail or buried within one of their reminder e-mails (which I cannot stand when other information is jammed on the side, I completely missed the notice on the Black Tuesday Treatment).

 

[Xul1]

I didn't get a recent survey. Was it a separate e-mail or buried within one of their reminder e-mails (which I cannot stand when other information is jammed on the side, I completely missed the notice on the Black Tuesday Treatment).

It was a separate email and only went to a random(?) subset of RS and HS members. Matt Olesh also linked to it on BA to let people who didn't receive it participate.

 

[Sage1]

On a semi-related note can anyone help me list bruery sours that are lactic in nature instead of acidic?

Hottenroth is the only one that comes to mind... and I have a weird feeling that this is the only one because it utilizes their berliner culture instead of house souring culture.

To my palate, Melange 9 tasted relatively lactic when it first came out but divebombed into an Acetobacter pit later on.

 

[Rau711]

Anyone else fill out the survey they sent us a litttle while back? I got a response/acknowledgement email today and im kinda pissed about it. Id rather they not reply at all than to reply with a ****** prefab canned response. It looks like they basically took what I assume to be the most popular topics/complaints and wrote us a list of excuses.

Quite frankly I dont care to continually discuss/debate the topic of bottle sizes if you outright say its not a change you are willing to make for the foreseeable future.

When you ask me if im going to renew and I say im undecided because ive already spent alot of money and havent seen half the beers we were told we would, its not cool to go on a rant telling me about the brewing process and how you have no control over when beers are ready. If you dont have control over that - dont set up a ******* release calendar and dont ask people for more money for the next year when you have delivered less than 50% on the current year.

When I tell you I dont enjoy most of your sour beers, the last damn thing I want to read about is the number of sour beers you have planned to share with me...

Bruery...yudodis

I said I don't like their sours, and they replied with

"With the launch of Terreux this year, we’ve been seeing a large increase in the amount of sours and wild ales coming out. While we don’t plan on slowing down, we’re certainly not slacking on the big BBA front! We’re already seen favorites like Mocha Wednesday, Chocolate Rain, and Grey Monday, but still have our new Black Tuesday to release, as well as your new Hoarder’s exclusive, Black Tuesday Reserve! We’re super excited for this beer, and are anxiously awaiting final testing to see where the ABV has landed. We’ll be sure to let you know once the time is right, so keep an eye on your email around October. "

I also said their bottle sizes were a negative, and they said "Well yeah **** you."

 

[waltersrj]

I'm dropping for a few reasons that I'm sure I've shared before that annoy me and probably other people on this site:
1. Format. While I do love BT and other big BA variants, it is not often that I'll open one for myself. I do it once a year as a challenge to my liver. I would love to open a 12 oz BT and be able to function properly.
2. Sours. A majority of their sours are sub-par and a couple are really amazing in my book, but once again, format. So much sour.
3. Cost. Their prices are sky high. I know that for many of their beers you're paying for barrel space, time, fruits, cocoa nibs, etc. but I still think they're unreasonable.
4. Schedule. We are getting smacked in the face with a big old Bruery D simply because of a lack of foresight on their part. We're going to have 5-6 releases each month which is impossible for a lot of us to max because of cost. I haven't maxed out on full allocations for a month in the last 3 years of RS.

 

[ABSTRACTlegend]

Cringe worthy!

 

[Xul1]

"It tastes like I'm eating a tree right now, it's great."

Speaks volumes about some of the decisions they've made over the years. The best thing Patrick could do at this point is admit he wants to run a winery, not a brewery, and let someone else head up the Bruery.

 

[StarRaptor1]

"It tastes like I'm eating a tree right now, it's great."

Speaks volumes about some of the decisions they've made over the years. The best thing Patrick could do at this point is admit he wants to run a winery, not a brewery, and let someone else head up the Bruery.

Why? He has been quite successful at starting to blur the line between beer, wine and spirits over the years.

 

[StarRaptor1]

Cringe worthy!

well there goes buying all three... I really enjoyed the first one so assumed I might enjoy all three but the "It tastes like I'm eating a tree right now, it's great." quote... nope I'm out on the second one for sure

 

[stakem1]

Was the point of that video to sell us... or scare us so that they could cellar more and sell them down the road for a higher vintage price?

 

[ABSTRACTlegend]

lol he looks so uncomfortable doing this. That static noise in the background is quite annoying as well.

 

[matedog]

lol he looks so uncomfortable doing this

He looks very uncomfortable in all of their videos.

That wasn't a particularly hard sell there.

 

[ABSTRACTlegend]

He looks very uncomfortable in all of their videos.

That wasn't a particularly hard sell there.

to be honest, this was the first video of his I watched.

 

[Usofar]