Bay Area Thread

[abecall98]

Yeah I'll basically stop buying them if they do that. They haven't been good enough to justify the price, and Ensorcelled isn't either.

Let's hope it's not the norm. I'm completely fine with $20 a bottle, but only a few beers in this world are worthy of a $30 price tag for the Abel.

 

[stupac2]

Let's hope it's not the norm. I'm completely fine with $20 a bottle, but only a few beers in this world are worthy of a $30 price tag for the Abel.

I'm more willing to pay that for a big stout/barleywine, but not for a sour. If I can get 3F OG for 2/3 the price, then why the hell should I buy your bottle of objectively worse beer?

 

[abecall98]

I'm more willing to pay that for a big stout/barleywine, but not for a sour. If I can get 3F OG for 2/3 the price, then why the hell should I buy your bottle of objectively worse beer?

Those stouts and Barleywines are also easier to justify the higher prices sometimes simply because the ABV is so high and you drink much less bottles to get that good feeling we get when we drink our beers. Black Tuesday is my bar that I measure $30 beers at.

 

[matedog]

Are the guys that are starting this place well known/established brewers? It might be worth it if you lived close by and knew the place would be decent. But I'd be skeptical too.

Isn't this place close to Toronado?

I doubt it. I've only heard about it through the neighborhood blog haighteration/hoodline. And yeah, it's close to Toro's (I don't care, I call it that), but also Mad Dog, Noc Noc, and Page which all have decent beer selections.

 

[matedog]

Just RSVP'd, but knowing what is going on a week in advance is a long shot. 50/50 chance of actually making it on the day.

Likely depend on what is on tap

I'm 50/50 as well due to work conference that day, but RSVP'd.

Agreed on the price hike. It's uh, a fruited sour, so I could see it being slightly more expensive, but not the $20 to $30 hike. Seems like the crowds at the releases and the WBC have convinced them they can make more profit on their product.

 

[abecall98]

I'm 50/50 as well due to work conference that day, but RSVP'd.

Agreed on the price hike. It's uh, a fruited sour, so I could see it being slightly more expensive, but not the $20 to $30 hike. Seems like the crowds at the releases and the WBC have convinced them they can make more profit on their product.

Maybe it went up in price because of the gold Medal?

Either way, I am looking forward to trying out this bad boy.

 

[CharlieMurphy1]

that good feeling we get when we drink our beers.

You say this like we're super heroes or a revered band of wizards

 

[abecall98]

You say this like we're super heroes or a revered band of wizards

I feel that way when drinking out of a golden chalice. We pass our pour around the table.

 

[johnnyramirez]

Splitting my membership with a homie, so it's easier to justify paying for half of the 3rd bottle and splitting it with him.

I'm a little surprised thought that they jumped the price from $20 for the regular releases to $30 for this beer. Ten bucks is a huge jump IMO. I sure hope it's not the norm with these more limited releases.

If it becomes the norm then I have absolutely 0 problem only filling growlers from them. The growlers are a downright bargain but $30 for their bottles isn't justifiable IMO.

 

[RyanG1]

Who's all hitting up the Rare Barrel Next Thursday for Enscrolled?

I'll be there. Looking forward to meeting some other TBers.

 

[buzzword]

city beer store has 2010/2011 Tilquin OG 750's right now, and it WAS marked at $22.99 -- it rang up as $29.99, and the gentleman wouldn't honor the posted price, stating that he had "no way to change it" in the register, AKA iPad. Annoying, but I bought it anyway. First world problems.

 

[buzzword]

Free beer for life.

http://hoodline.com/2014/04/black-sands-offering-free-beer-for-life

Curious what you locals think.

...paging dontdrinkbeer

 

[loeyjarko]

city beer store has 2010/2011 Tilquin OG 750's right now, and it WAS marked at $22.99 -- it rang up as $29.99, and the gentleman wouldn't honor the posted price, stating that he had "no way to change it" in the register, AKA iPad. Annoying, but I bought it anyway. First world problems.

U got ****** m8 I but those for 19.99

 

[stupac2]

city beer store has 2010/2011 Tilquin OG 750's right now, and it WAS marked at $22.99 -- it rang up as $29.99, and the gentleman wouldn't honor the posted price, stating that he had "no way to change it" in the register, AKA iPad. Annoying, but I bought it anyway. First world problems.

Isn't that illegal?

 

[abecall98]

Isn't that illegal?

Unless he put the sticker on the bottle himself, I think it is. I've seen ******* Frys coworkers sell thousand dollar computers because some idiot out in back put the wrong price on it for $100.

 

[buzzword]

U got ****** m8 I but those for 19.99

 

[buzzword]

Isn't that illegal?

probably.

 

[Arbitrator]

Isn't that illegal?

Is this the first illegal thing you've seen in craft beer? Or even from City Beer Store? Come on.

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

...paging dontdrinkbeer

Man not only is this a transactional nightmare, generates a morass of contract fulfillment issues, and a litany of questions about the capitalization (pseudo ipo? Transferability rights?)

But it is also just straight up illegal.

They need to launder their promise with "you get a magic glass with special privileges" and run their fingers up the donator's thigh .

The face palming is not insubstantial, but more sf actual breweries is pretty dope. LOOK OUT CELLARMAKER

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

probably.

No. Posted price is not a contract offer it is an invitation to deal, you can take it to the register and it could be three times the price and unless there is straight malicious intent to defraud the consumer pretty sure they don't need to take a patron's **** for mislabeled items. Not binding.

 

[Arbitrator]

No. Posted price is not a contract offer it is an invitation to deal, you can take it to the register and it could be three times the price and unless there is straight malicious intent to defraud the consumer pretty sure they don't need to take a patron's **** for mislabeled items. Not binding.

Can you explain how the CA Business and Professions Code applies here?

12024.2. (a) It is unlawful for any person, at the time of sale of
a commodity, to do any of the following:
(1) Charge an amount greater than the price, or to compute an
amount greater than a true extension of a price per unit, that is
then advertised, posted, marked, displayed, or quoted for that
commodity.
(2) Charge an amount greater than the lowest price posted on the
commodity itself or on a shelf tag that corresponds to the commodity,
notwithstanding any limitation of the time period for which the
posted price is in effect.
(b) A violation of this section is a misdemeanor punishable by a
fine of not less than twenty-five dollars ($25) nor more than one
thousand dollars ($1,000), by imprisonment in the county jail for a
period not exceeding one year, or by both, if the violation is
willful or grossly negligent, or when the overcharge is more than one
dollar ($1).

It sounds like malicious intent only pertains to the fine, but overcharging beyond the price is flat-out against the law -- am I understanding it correctly?

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

Can you explain how the CA Business and Professions Code applies here?



It sounds like malicious intent only pertains to the fine, but overcharging beyond the price is flat-out against the law -- am I understanding it correctly?

No idea. I can look into it but I am 3 750s deep, proper lawyering form

 

[buzzword]

Man not only is this a transactional nightmare, generates a morass of contract fulfillment issues, and a litany of questions about the capitalization (pseudo ipo? Transferability rights?)

But it is also just straight up illegal.

They need to launder their promise with "you get a magic glass with special privileges" and run their fingers up the donator's thigh .

The face palming is not insubstantial, but more sf actual breweries is pretty dope. LOOK OUT CELLARMAKER

I was referring more to your clear, previous disregard for kickstarter breweries. The aforementioned dislike notwithstanding, I appreciate the legal discourse and rhetoric.

 

[dontdrinkbeer]

I was referring more to your clear, previous disregard for kickstarter breweries. The aforementioned dislike notwithstanding, I appreciate the legal discourse and rhetoric.

Sometimes I totally forget about that kick starter post and then lo and behold someone will retweet some **** from 8 months ago and spin ddb into the casual beer blog circles so I have to field their macro bashing, Narwhal reviewing ********

 

[mjl21]

Waldo was great two years ago, at 9% and oh so dank at Toronado! Did not get it last year, but will search it out on Easter.

You try it this year? Had it at Lagunitas on Wednesday and thought it was very watery. The nose was great.

 

[bdogg1]

How goes it my fellow bay area folks. New to the site but def not new to the wonderful world of beer drinking hahha. Anyways, just wanted to stop in and say hello.

 

[RyanG1]

Canned Gose from Anderson Valley

https://avbc.com/anderson-valley-releases-the-kimmie-the-yink-and-the-holy-gose/

 

[drgarage1]

Canned Gose from Anderson Valley

https://avbc.com/anderson-valley-releases-the-kimmie-the-yink-and-the-holy-gose/

If it's cheap, it might be worth trying. The fact it's made by adding lactic acid, not acidified with lacto, doesn't give me high hopes.

 

[falc0n26001]

If it's cheap, it might be worth trying. The fact it's made by adding lactic acid, not acidified with lacto, doesn't give me high hopes.

It's not bad but it is nothing special.

 

[matedog]

I mean, if those are like 6-8 ounce pours then I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But they don't tell us that. And with 20 people per seating they'd need to do a full case per to get into that reasonable range. With the LPK and FF on both lists I'm sort of skeptical that they'd do that, which means you're splitting 3 bottles between 20 people, or 3 and change ounces per person. At actual, non-ridiculous retail, that would actually cost you $15 for the first one and $18 for the second. Those snacks have some value, I guess, but would you pay more than $15 for them? So we have something that "ought" to cost $30 going for $68, and something that "ought" to cost $33 going for $84. I think doubling a fair retailing price counts as a ripoff.

Of course, that's with the assumption that you're splitting those cases 40 ways, if they're more generous than that then it's a better deal. But given that this is Mikkellerbar/Trappist, do you really expect them to? I guess matedog can report back and let us know.

So those who guessed 2-4oz pours with "snacks" were pretty spot on:

That being said, I don't feel too bad about the exorbitant pricing. The food was really well thought out and quite good in spite of the small portions. The photo above is pickled beats and strawberries. There was more to it, but I'm blanking right now. There was also some goat sausage and barley which was great. Presentation was great too, with the chef and a presenter talking about both the food and the beer. I hadn't had LPK in forever and god I love that beer. Fou Foune was about as great but underwhelming as the bottle I had a few months ago. In fact, I would have been totally cool with replacing FF with something more standard because I'm thinking that was a big reason for the price being so high. We did get refills on classic gueuze, which made up for it very slightly.

Anyway, I'm not sure I'd do it again, but it was a generally enjoyable experience. Especially considering my limited access to Cantillon.