Am I a homebrewer? NO!

[HawgDaddy]

So, home brewed beer is not commercial and home grown veges are not commercial. And thank God for it!

 

[troy2000]

I'm not a home brewer, I'm a brewery resident.

I have visions of you sleeping it off under a vat at a microbrewery somewhere, with your shopping cart full of worldly possessions outside the door...

Are you sure you aren't a resident brewer, instead?

 

[troy2000]

So, home brewed beer is not commercial and home grown veges are not commercial. And thank God for it!

Yeah... I couldn't really get behind the OP's statement that he tries to make his beer indistinguishable from commercial products. WTF? Why go to all that trouble to make something you can just buy at the corner market? It's like trying to reproduce a Big Mac or Whopper at home....

 

[jonmohno]

Not that Im disagreeing with you troy but making clone brews is pretty educating for seing how close or if not better you can make it. And as far as making a big mac or whopper, well I was stumbled upon it on youtube before and am kinda interested in how to make some commercial food especially like a taco bell crunch wrap. Hey at least you can make a healthier version of it at home though.And not have to actually eat that garbage. Red Lobster buiscuits etc.. Ever wondered how McDonalds makes those fries? Its pretty interesting and quite a process really. It sounds fun to do also. Yet I hate everything McDonalds stands for. I like their onion cheddarburger but I don't have to like where it comes from and what its made from,nor do I rarely want to eat from there.
Also I think my beer is indistinguishable from commercial beer mostly but that's not always a good thing. I have yet to make a clone taste exactly the same as a commercial beer as well and on my part is that I usually always had to sub ingredients that I didn't have or I didn't hit my target OG or something. Ive liked some of my clones better but it usually didn't taste like the clone. Sometimes not as good.

 

[Clonefan94]

I blame Mr. Roper who used Mrs. Roper's stockings to make beer for Jack Tripper. He's responsible for the negative perception of homebrewers.


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Hahaha, I remember that episode. Jack was spitting out barley when Roper said he used his wife's stockings to strain it, then Jack about threw up.

You are probably right.

 

[rocketsan]

Yeah... I couldn't really get behind the OP's statement that he tries to make his beer indistinguishable from commercial products. WTF? Why go to all that trouble to make something you can just buy at the corner market? It's like trying to reproduce a Big Mac or Whopper at home....

No it's not. Big Macs and Whoppers taste good



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[MindenMan]

Oh!, By The Way, the term "home cooker", is now a reference to a person that cooks Meth in their house, so you might not want to use that one.

 

[seabass07]

I make crystal "malt" at home. So I guess I am a home cooker.

 

[Tutsbrew]

If any of you feel you can no longer bear the shackles that the monicker "Homebrewer" places upon you I will step up and remove those shackles by removing the brewing equipment AND the beer that has plagued you. I would do that for you!

 

[btbnl]

I have visions of you sleeping it off under a vat at a microbrewery somewhere, with your shopping cart full of worldly possessions outside the door...

Are you sure you aren't a resident brewer, instead?

In Cooking in a Bedsitter, Katherine Whitehorn describes a committed chef who responded to her amazement at what he could produce on a single hotplate in his room by explaining that "I am not cooking in my bedroom but sleeping in my kitchen."

 

[troy2000]

I think that an artisan brewer stirs wort clockwise on even days and counterclockwise on odd days. To be an artisan kit brewer, it is a requisite to own an expensive electric Euro can opener to chop the lids off tin cans of syrup, while watching Rocky and Bullwinkle and sipping beer from a demitasse cup with the pinky finger held at a 90 degree angle from the rest of the fingers.

Hey, let's not get personal. I own every episode of the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, along with all the early Tom & Jerry cartoons - and most of the cartoons with Yosemite Sam in them. Not to mention a couple of Lucky Luke movies....

 

[troy2000]

Not that Im disagreeing with you troy but making clone brews is pretty educating for seing how close or if not better you can make it. And as far as making a big mac or whopper, well I was stumbled upon it on youtube before and am kinda interested in how to make some commercial food especially like a taco bell crunch wrap. Hey at least you can make a healthier version of it at home though.And not have to actually eat that garbage. Red Lobster buiscuits etc.. Ever wondered how McDonalds makes those fries? Its pretty interesting and quite a process really. It sounds fun to do also. Yet I hate everything McDonalds stands for. I like their onion cheddarburger but I don't have to like where it comes from and what its made from,nor do I rarely want to eat from there.
Also I think my beer is indistinguishable from commercial beer mostly but that's not always a good thing. I have yet to make a clone taste exactly the same as a commercial beer as well and on my part is that I usually always had to sub ingredients that I didn't have or I didn't hit my target OG or something. Ive liked some of my clones better but it usually didn't taste like the clone. Sometimes not as good.

Nothing wrong with brewing clones, either as a learning experience or just because you like the originals. But that isn't the same thing as a goal of 'making my beer indistinguishable from a commercial brewery,' which seems to be the OP's raison d'être...

 

[troy2000]

I don't know.... It doesn't really matter if you make beer at your house or a commercial brewery. If you brew it you are a brewer. I don't see the need for a distinction. Unless you are going to say one is clearly superior to the other.....

I think there's a difference. As a longtime veteran of the construction industry, I wouldn't call homeowners who build their own sheds, decks or detached garages carpenters, even though they're engaging in carpentry. I reserve the term for those who do it for a living... and 'superiority' has nothing to do with it.

 

[CreamyGoodness]

To reiterate what I said before, I think I have to support the OP on this one, but for a self-serving reason he most likely didnt intend.

I think whenever a term has been sullied or given a negative association, two options are to either strive to return that term to a more positive light or market and use another more suitable term.

For example, as an Executive Assistant by trade, I would and will watch you burn to a cinder screaming in agony rather than help you if you have previously called me a "Secretary".

If sudbuster would rather be called a "Brewocrat" or an "Artisan Brewer" or whatever... I will try to remember when I speak to him and call him that....

....

Just so long as he realizes he wants to us to be more Politically Correct.

 

[seabass07]

But you are a secretary...

 

[hunter_le five]

But you are a secretary...

 

[Nightshade]

It probably makes you an outlaw. Home brewing is legal. Brewing at a commercial location? Not sure.

Grey area for sure but since he isn't producing any alcohol on location it slips into that "6 of one half dozen of the other" type of thing.

 

[day_trippr]

But you are a secretary...

 

[unionrdr]

Kinda like when they made my line foreman job blue collar & started calling us team co-coordinators. I hate this PC crap. not to mention a lower pay grade.

 

[GHBWNY]

Maybe it's as simple as: anything brewed for non-commercial purposes is "homebrewed". For instance, if a so-called "artisan" brewer brews for resale, he's a commercial brewer. If he brews for personal use, he is a homebrewer. It's not as much in the wording as it is in the purpose. Endo convo.

 

[unionrdr]

I agree with that thought. Simple & direct. Now back to your regularly scheduled Friday!...

 

[troy2000]

I remember when it suddenly became an insult to refer to my school's janitors as janitors; they magically turned into 'custodians.' Never was sure what all or who all they had custody of...

Nowadays I think they're all environmental engineers or sanitation supervisors, or some such.

 

[ericbw]

Grey area for sure but since he isn't producing any alcohol on location it slips into that "6 of one half dozen of the other" type of thing.

Just as long as you take me seriously and miss the jokiness of the comment.

 

[smizak]

Doesn't the moniker not elicit images of squalor and unsanitary conditions

OMFG! I can't believe I didn't notice this before! Double negative!!

Hahahahahahaha.....

 

[sudbuster]

OMFG! I can't believe I didn't notice this before! Double negative!!

Hahahahahahaha.....

Cool Catch, I missed it too. Is this it? Is this all the trash dumpin' you got? Well, you still haven't made me into a ragged, by-the-tracks homebrewer.

 

[CrystallineEntity]

You'll always be a homebrewer to me, suds.

 

[sudbuster]

You'll always be a homebrewer to me, suds.

Thanks, Rice, I guess

 

[Denny]

Well, you still haven't made me into a ragged, by-the-tracks homebrewer.

Why should we? None of us are, either. It's your own hang up.

 

[GrogNerd]

I'm not a homebrewer?

then my car is

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[Yooper]

You'll always be a homebrewer to me, suds.

That goes double for me, but you can be an artisan homebrewer if you would like.