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Do they not effectively give away the Cantillon pours on Zwanze day as I've heard?
Curious, because if so that would be horrible for them to have a bunch of leftover glasses that they paid for.

They do, I'm not sure why they have so many extra glasses, but there are a lot extra. As I said, it is almost been a year and you can still buy them.
 
They do, I'm not sure why they have so many extra glasses, but there are a lot extra. As I said, it is almost been a year and you can still buy them.

Probably time to organize a glassware purchasing 'thank you for the free pours' mob.
That's insanely generous of them.
I'm sure it's related to Texas distribution madness, but to give away what I'm sure is a lot of money and assume the organizational headaches speaks really well of them.
 
Do they not effectively give away the Cantillon pours on Zwanze day as I've heard?
Curious, because if so that would be horrible for them to have a bunch of leftover glasses that they paid for.
Free pour, that's cool . I got a free pour at the Birch . Just had to pay about $17 for the glass though .
 
More on the beer:
Zwanze Day 2015
Belgium, the land of surrealism...

The artistic movement born at then end of the 19th century never really left our country, and even became a sort of philosophy for many of our compatriots.

Bury, Ensor, and of course Magritte were its figureheads.

René Magritte, who was known for the contrast of light and dark in his work, is also the artist who painted the famous "Ceci n'est pas une pipe".

With Zwanze 2015, Cantillon is continuing the Belgian tradition of surrealism. We have made a few changes to a classic stout recipe with this in mind.

I worked with unmalted wheat to give it a creamier texture and to give it longer legs. I didn't use torrified malt because I wanted to avoid an even more pronounced dryness -- something that was already present thanks to the wild yeast.

With the recipe of a stout, the color of a stout, and a spontaneous fermentation followed by 28 months of aging in barrels, a "surrealist stout" was born.

The dry, acidic notes of a spontaneously fermented beer blend with the roasted, lightly burnt, and delicate chocolatey notes one might normally find in a stout.

For the 28 months of aging, we used three types of barrels: 50% used lambic barrels, 25% first-use Côtes du Rhône barrles, and 25% first-use Cognac barrels. The beer coming from Cognac barrels brings a warming alcohol character, while the beer coming from the red wine barrels has a vinous, fruity presence. The fruitiness and roast give this "wild" stout a nutty character reminiscent of wine from Madeira or Banyuls.

To fully enjoy the aroma and flavor of Zwanze 2015, the ideal serving temperature is around 59°-64° F.

À votre santé,

Jean Van Roy
 
That description almost makes a cantillon stout sound good.

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Looks like Trappist at Oakland is in fact doing a ticketed event: http://zwanze2015.brownpapertickets.com/

The Trappist hosts Zwanze Day 2015
September 19, 2015
10:30am - 1:00pm

Your ticket will get you a reservation and a seat at The Trappist for Zwanze Day. You will get in early (10:30am) and will receive a flight of Cantillon Drafts. Your Cantillon Flight will include 3, 6oz Draft pours of the following:

Zwanze Wild Brussels Stout
Vigneronne
Rosé de Gambrinus

As you arrive, we will give you both Vigneronne and Rosé de Gambrinus. At 11:30am we'll tap the Zwanze keg and pour it around in time for as to participate in the 12 noon toast around the world.

We'll have other drafts for sale such as a couple of other Cantillon selections along with a few other gems we've been holding for this event.

Bottles of Buocsella will be available as well.
 
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Looks like Trappist at Oakland is in fact doing a ticketed event: http://zwanze2015.brownpapertickets.com/

The Trappist hosts Zwanze Day 2015
September 19, 2015
10:30am - 1:00pm

Your ticket will get you a reservation and a seat at The Trappist for Zwanze Day. You will get in early (10:30am) and will receive a flight of Cantillon Drafts. Your Cantillon Flight will include 3, 6oz Draft pours of the following:

Zwanze Wild Brussels Stout
Vigneronne
Rosé de Gambrinus

As you arrive, we will give you both Vigneronne and Rosé de Gambrinus. At 11:30am we'll tap the Zwanze keg and pour it around in time for as to participate in the 12 noon toast around the world.

We'll have other drafts for sale such as a couple of other Cantillon selections along with a few other gems we've been holding for this event.

Bottles of Buocsella will be available as well.
Well that's a shockingly pleasant surprise.

Still wish it came with food, like some of the other sites do.
 
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if i got 6 pours of basically anything and a 2 hour buffet in NYC i think I'd clear $100 pretty quickly...this doesn't seem like a bad deal at all...
Yeah, that looks like a pretty good deal. Way better than the Trappist one where you pay $40 (with service fee) for 18oz of beer.
 
so, which of you goons will be the first to bring a french press and infuse this brussels stout with brussels sprouts?

RIP @sprouts.
 
Errr, I did. I mean, Beachwood only ever serves breakfast on Zwanze Day and if you've had any of their other food, you'd know its worth the price.

Oh, also loons and ****.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if i got 6 pours of basically anything and a 2 hour buffet in NYC i think I'd clear $100 pretty quickly...this doesn't seem like a bad deal at all...

Yeah, that looks like a pretty good deal. Way better than the Trappist one where you pay $40 (with service fee) for 18oz of beer.
Wow, I didn't phrase that well. I would pay $70 for that all day! Way more loons and kickass Beachwood food? Yes! Why Trappist insists on this 3 pours and "the opportunity" to buy food off their normal menu thing is beyond me.
 
Looks like Trappist at Oakland is in fact doing a ticketed event: http://zwanze2015.brownpapertickets.com/

The Trappist hosts Zwanze Day 2015
September 19, 2015
10:30am - 1:00pm

Your ticket will get you a reservation and a seat at The Trappist for Zwanze Day. You will get in early (10:30am) and will receive a flight of Cantillon Drafts. Your Cantillon Flight will include 3, 6oz Draft pours of the following:

Zwanze Wild Brussels Stout
Vigneronne
Rosé de Gambrinus

As you arrive, we will give you both Vigneronne and Rosé de Gambrinus. At 11:30am we'll tap the Zwanze keg and pour it around in time for as to participate in the 12 noon toast around the world.

We'll have other drafts for sale such as a couple of other Cantillon selections along with a few other gems we've been holding for this event.

Bottles of Buocsella will be available as well.
Am I crazy or is paying $38 for what amounts to 2oz more than a full pint a little nuts? I'd love to try the Zwanze as much as anyone but I find that sticker price very hard to justify. (I guess they might give you a commemorative glass? It's not listed anywhere in the description, though.)
 
Am I crazy or is paying $38 for what amounts to 2oz more than a full pint a little nuts? I'd love to try the Zwanze as much as anyone but I find that sticker price very hard to justify. (I guess they might give you a commemorative glass? It's not listed anywhere in the description, though.)
It is nuts, but I've certainly never seen Cantillon sell in the U.S. for less than $13/6 oz, so it's certainly not out of range.
 
Sigh. Oh well, I guess I can wait until I end up in Brussels again at some point. When I was last there, the Cantillon bar had Zwanze pours from previous years for like €10-€15 (don't recall). It's hard to treat Cantillon as a $13/6oz beer when your only experience with it has been drinking it by the bottle for €5 a pop!
 
Sigh. Oh well, I guess I can wait until I end up in Brussels again at some point. When I was last there, the Cantillon bar had Zwanze pours from previous years for like €10-€15 (don't recall). It's hard to treat Cantillon as a $13/6oz beer when your only experience with it has been drinking it by the bottle for €5 a pop!
How much did that flight/hotel add to the per bottle cost? Assuming it wasn't a business trip.
 
I was traveling through Europe on a long trip, just happened to stop in Belgium on the way.
 
Akkurat taplist for Zwanze:

Cantillon Fou’ Foune 2014
Cantillon Fou’ Foune 2015
Cantillon Vigneronne 2014
Cantillon St Lamvinus 2014
Cantillon Iris Grand Cru 2013
Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek 2014
Cantillon Lou Pepe Frambozen 2014
Cantillon Mamouche 2014
Cantillon Gueuze 2012

Psyched!
 
Akkurat taplist for Zwanze:

Cantillon Fou’ Foune 2014
Cantillon Fou’ Foune 2015
Cantillon Vigneronne 2014
Cantillon St Lamvinus 2014
Cantillon Iris Grand Cru 2013
Cantillon Lou Pepe Kriek 2014
Cantillon Lou Pepe Frambozen 2014
Cantillon Mamouche 2014
Cantillon Gueuze 2012

Psyched!

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Pretty interesting shakeup for Zwanze Day at Jester King and the state of affairs in Texas craft beer in general.

Brasserie Cantillon has been a tremendous source of inspiration to all of us at Jester King, perhaps more so than any other brewery in the world. When we began refermenting our mature barrel-aged beers with fruit, and when we started our spontaneous fermentation program two and a half years ago, we looked to Cantillon for guidance. Jean Van Roy of Cantillon provided us with valuable insight that continues to serve as the foundation for much of what we do.


In 2013, we were immensely honored to have been chosen as one of the host sites for Zwanze Day, a day on which a small number of venues around the world each simultaneously tap a single keg of a special beer brewed and released by Cantillon just for the occasion. That year, it was Cantillon’s take on a spontaneously fermented, strong abbey-style ale. Last year, when we were once again selected, it was a a special Grand Cru edition of Cantillon Iris, refermented with a small amount of cherries and delicately dry-hopped with Bramling Cross.


Of course, because Cantillon does not have a Texas license, we could not legally sell their beer. In most states, licensing to sell beers from overseas breweries is held by their U.S. importer, and for a relatively modest licensing fee, that importer is able to sell its entire portfolio into the state. This is also how it works in Texas when it comes to wine and spirits. However, any overseas brewery that wants to sell its beer in Texas, even for a single, one-time event, is required to obtain its own licensing, costing over $4,000, and in many cases, over $6,000 every two years. For small breweries like Cantillon, which can’t even come close to meeting the demand in the markets they’re already in, and which simply wouldn’t be able to supply enough beer to recover this cost, selling beer in Texas doesn’t make practical sense, which is why we tend not to see much beer from truly small, artisan brewers outside the state.


Because we couldn’t legally sell Zwanze, we decided to give it away for free each of the last two years. We had planned to do the same this year when we were once again honored to have been selected, but as it turns out, that’s not what we will be doing. In fact, Zwanze Day will not take place in Texas on September 19th when it’s taking place throughout the rest of the world. Instead, with the permission of Cantillon, we will be holding our celebration sometime in October, when their Texas license has been approved.


Yes, that’s correct, Cantillon has applied for a Texas license, which, based on current processing times, we expect to be issued sometime in early October. At our suggestion, in order to cover the cost of this license, Shelton Brothers Importers, the company responsible for Cantillon’s U.S. distribution, will be selling the keg of 2015 Zwanze to their Texas distributor, Flood Distribution, for approximately $2,000 more than they would ordinarily charge, and we will be paying Flood Distribution roughly $2,000 more than we would otherwise pay. This money will then be applied directly to the licensing fee, covering a bit less than half of what Shelton Brothers and/or Cantillon will have to pay every other year, for as long as they maintain the license or until we’re able to change the law.


For our 2015 Zwanze Celebration, which should occur at Jester King this October, we will be selling 200 tickets for $50 each. Each ticket includes a 4 oz. sample of 2015 Zwanze (a spontaneously fermented stout), a cheese pairing, a souvenir glass, and the first opportunity to purchase Cantillon bottles and draught legally sold in Texas. Please note, all net proceeds from ticket sales will be donated to the Texas Craft Brewers Guild Legislative Committee and Open the Taps, so that we can change the laws in order to give Texas consumers better access to small, artisan breweries like Cantillon. The licensing of Cantillon in Texas creates a unique opportunity to help fund the movement to build a better beer landscape in our state, and we’re grateful to Cantillon, Shelton Brothers, and Flood Distribution for the opportunity.


Additional details, including the new October date for Zwanze Day at Jester King, will be announced once Cantillon’s license has been approved.
 
Wait, one keg is $2,000 MORE expensive? How ****ing much does the keg cost?!?
 
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