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Going to do a fruity/tropical APA and want to try 2-3 New Zealand hops for it (or maybe citra plus one or two from NZ). Which combo of New Zealand hops do you think works best together? Motueka is the only one I have used a few times
 

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Riwaka and Nelson together is my favorite NZ combo. I do a NZ Pilsner that’s medaled 3 times that is 2:1 ratio of Riwaka to Nelson. I also love to paid the two with Citra for ipas. Absolutely love it
 
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Riwaka and Nelson together is my favorite NZ combo. I do a NZ Pilsner that’s medaled 3 times that is 2:1 ratio of Riwaka to Nelson. I also love to paid the two with Citra for ipas. Absolutely love it
Awesome, I haven’t been able to get ahold of riwaka yet, I made a NZ with motueka and Nelson instead because of it. Maybe I’ll try to get some and do riwaka, Nelson, and citra for the apa. What ratio do you use on your ipa if you don’t mind me asking?
 

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I've been going through a pound or so of green bullet and southern cross and it gives a bit of a fruity, pineapple-ly taste that is pretty unique when combined.
 
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I've been going through a pound or so of green bullet and southern cross and it gives a bit of a fruity, pineapple-ly taste that is pretty unique when combined.
Very interesting what style do you use those in?
 

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Awesome, I haven’t been able to get ahold of riwaka yet, I made a NZ with motueka and Nelson instead because of it. Maybe I’ll try to get some and do riwaka, Nelson, and citra for the apa. What ratio do you use on your ipa if you don’t mind me asking?
Here is my triple ipa recipe using Citra, Riwaka, and Nelson
 

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I second Riwaka and Nelson together with Citra. Great combo. Also, I have a Waimea, Citra, Nectaron on tap that I love this combo as well. Used Waimea primarily as a heavy dose in the late boil and Citra, nectaron the rest of the way with an emphasis on Nectron over Citra in the Dry hop. Waimea still shines through quite nicely too. Pretty darn fruity for sure but still has some smooth pine/resin to help balance the fruitiness.
 

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I have green bullet and wakatu. Has anyone used those together?
 

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Riwaka and Nelson together is my favorite NZ combo. I do a NZ Pilsner that’s medaled 3 times that is 2:1 ratio of Riwaka to Nelson. I also love to paid the two with Citra for ipas. Absolutely love it
That NZ Pilsner sounds great, would share any recipe details?
 

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That NZ Pilsner sounds great, would share any recipe details?
It really is a great beer

Grain;
93% Pilsner
5% Cara Pils
2% Biscuit malt
Mash: 150*f & 5.3 ph
Og: 1.054
Fg: 1.010
Abv: 5.8%

Yeast: 34/70

Hops:
.5 oz pacific Jade @ 60

1 oz Riwaka
.5 oz Nelson @ 10

1.5 oz Riwaka
.75 oz Nelson at F. O.

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It really is a great beer

Grain;
93% Pilsner
5% Cara Pils
2% Biscuit malt
Mash: 150*f & 5.3 ph
Og: 1.054
Fg: 1.010
Abv: 5.8%

Yeast: 34/70

Hops:
.5 oz pacific Jade @ 60

1 oz Riwaka
.5 oz Nelson @ 10

1.5 oz Riwaka
.75 oz Nelson at F. O.

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Looks incredible, thanks for sharing! When I tried to make a NZ pils I used motueka for bittering, do you think pacific jade is a cleaner bittering hop?
 

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Very interesting what style do you use those in?
I've been doing a lot of pale ales with those lately. Usually a 50/50 mix or ill go heavier on one. The past few have been just two row, some vienna and the nz hops. It makes a nice, easy sipper on a hot Saturday by the bbq.
 

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Looks incredible, thanks for sharing! When I tried to make a NZ pils I used motueka for bittering, do you think pacific jade is a cleaner bittering hop?
I never used motueka to bitter so I can compare them in that sense, but pacific jade is a clean bittering hop and it carries some spiciness into the finish, which really work well for the style
 

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If you haven’t used Southern Cross lately (or ever) I’d give it a try. It’s part of the blend in Alpine’s “Nelson” that really put NZ hops on the map for US craft beer drinkers.

It’s the hop highest in the 2MIB thiol (apricot) and the stuff I’ve bought recently has smelled pretty damn good. I haven’t used it much on its own but blended it in with other hops in smaller percentages. It’s also not nearly as spendy as some of the other NZ varieties. Did a recent all NZ IPA that was 60/30/10 Nelson Riwaka Southern Cross that I really enjoyed.
 

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It really is a great beer

Grain;
93% Pilsner
5% Cara Pils
2% Biscuit malt
Mash: 150*f & 5.3 ph
Og: 1.054
Fg: 1.010
Abv: 5.8%

Yeast: 34/70

Hops:
.5 oz pacific Jade @ 60

1 oz Riwaka
.5 oz Nelson @ 10

1.5 oz Riwaka
.75 oz Nelson at F. O.

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Thanks for posting that 🤙 Think I missed your target og/fg before. I’m planning a southern cross & nelson NZ pils based on your recipe.
 

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It really is a great beer

Grain;
93% Pilsner
5% Cara Pils
2% Biscuit malt
Mash: 150*f & 5.3 ph
Og: 1.054
Fg: 1.010
Abv: 5.8%

Yeast: 34/70

Hops:
.5 oz pacific Jade @ 60

1 oz Riwaka
.5 oz Nelson @ 10

1.5 oz Riwaka
.75 oz Nelson at F. O.

View attachment 736182
Did you do anything different with the water profile than a typical German or Czech pilsner?
 

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Did you do anything different with the water profile than a typical German or Czech pilsner?
I actually targeted the pale full water profile on Bru’n water. I’ll post a picture of the my water profile spreadsheet later today.

The reason for targeting this profile is because NZ should have touch more mouthfeel and a less assertive finish than a Czech or German pils
 
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Where are people finding riwaka? I have never been able to find it since I first heard about it
 
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Yakima valley hops is where I got mine but they are out until NZ Hops come in. Last year it was about this time
Excellent, I’m going to keep my eyes peeled and stock up when they get some!
 
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Register for their notification emails. Every time a new hop(s) comes in, they send out an email.
Would that be their newsletter or is there something else?
 

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Would that be their newsletter or is there something else?
It’s just one sign up. Go to their home page and scroll to the bottom. Fill in the info and you’ll start getting them. Also add their email to your contacts so it never goes to spam.
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