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Yooper said:
I don't see anything as women's work or as men's work. I think self sufficiency is the goal for me. Of course, I'm really not very manly at all. I am sort of girly and wimpy and almost feminine. I definitely can't measure my penis, that's for sure!

Try getting a man to take a turn on breastfeeding... ;)
 
Yooper said:
I'm not really busy being "manly". I don't see anything as women's work or as men's work. I think self sufficiency is the goal for me. Of course, I'm really not very manly at all. I am sort of girly and wimpy and almost feminine. I definitely can't measure my penis, that's for sure!

Self sufficiency is key! Maybe you don't want to fix it and can afford to have it done but could you in a pinch? BTW, I think you are very manly...in a feminine sort of way;). You are always open to learning a new skill. That IMO, defines self sufficiency.
 
lumpher said:
this thread is still alive?!?

Going strong baby. Its mutated though lol

@Ischiavo I know your not insinuating that the desire to learn new skills and be self sufficient are primarily manly qualities... right? :confused:
 
bottlebomber said:
Going strong baby. Its mutated though lol

@Ischiavo I know your not insinuating that the desire to learn new skills and be self sufficient are primarily manly qualities... right? :confused:

Of course not. They are just good qualities IMO. Be you male or female, strive to learn a new skill whenever you can. It will pay off sometime...now where the he!! Did I put my breast milk?
 
I am still waiting to hear more about this...

"I remember going into an apartment to do a renovation for some Japanese girls who were going to school nearby." :(
 
yeah, can we get a new thread with this story? it sounds hot (pics or it didn't happen)
 
I had to chuckle when I saw "use a sewing machine" on that list.

I've been sewing pretty much my entire life, and have a fair amount of skill with a machine... everything from quilts to clothing and costumes. Yeah, some of the more "manlier" men I know scoff at my sewing (until they need something stitched up... lol), but as I point out to them.. it's just another power tool. :)
 
I'll confess that I skipped 90% of this thread, there's just a lot to go through. But here's the thing, I live and work in the Castro district of San Francisco, with my wife. I'm a dude, she's a woman. I make pizza for a living, and I work very hard. I can work on our giant oven at work, I landscape our yard, and I for damn sure am not a "pussified male." But a lot of the gay men who come into my pizzeria aren't either. They might carry a purse, but I would be reluctant to fight them, and I'm 6'4", 210 lbs.

What's at issue seems to be whether a person can take care of business and not call a repairman when their light bulbs burn out, and I don't think carrying a purse is an indication one way or the other. Some of the biggest ******* I've ever met were farmers back in the Midwest where I grew up who suddenly became frightened angry dogs every time they saw a man act effeminately.

I skipped a lot, like I said, so forgive me if this point was made.

But to the core of it, people as a whole do seem to rely less on themselves and more on someone with their name stitched on their shirt. But when things go badly and I have to fight for survival, I know I can, so who cares about other people?
 
actually it will be a good thing when the zombie apocalypse happens. then i know i can at least take some of them out. i'll have to make alliances with the males who are manlier than me though.
 
Marcello's. The best pizza place you'll ever drunkenly stumble into in my neighborhood. I have to (sheepishly) admit there's better pizza in the city, but we make a mean NYC style pie, and the only better places around do more of an old world style.
 
You really want to know what happened to men? Turn on your TV. Half the damn shows on network television are about dancing, singing, or complaining. Who decided it was a good idea to have our NFL heroes "dance with the stars"? I don't want to see that $h!t. Thanks a lot fox, now i hate Jerry Rice. Television has made society soft and melodramatic. Every time someone feigns crying just to get attention, i want to push them into a volcano instead. Oh you didn't win American Idol? Good, b/c now you can stop crying and go back to being a man. You watch the super bowl this year? Freaking black eyed peas on the half time show, bastardizing a true american sport and destroying our children's sense of what is normal. b/c normal isn't some jacknugget wearing a half plastic shield on his face; we should be thinking about football, but instead, we're subjected to something that makes us feel like sissies inside. the half time show should be ron swanson sitting on the 50 yard line, smoking a cigar and drinking scotch for 15 minutes.

yes, i ranted, i hate everyone singing and dancing all the damn time
 
i can relate to that. but i think the half time show should be ME sitting on the 50, smoking and drinking scotch and kicking ass. i'll fight all takers untill its time for the game to start back. least bloody man wins (unless the bloodiest man is covered with blood from the other man. then most bloody man wins).
 
McMalty said:
You really want to know what happened to men? Turn on your TV. Half the damn shows on network television are about dancing, singing, or complaining. Who decided it was a good idea to have our NFL heroes "dance with the stars"? I don't want to see that $h!t. Thanks a lot fox, now i hate Jerry Rice. Television has made society soft and melodramatic. Every time someone feigns crying just to get attention, i want to push them into a volcano instead. Oh you didn't win American Idol? Good, b/c now you can stop crying and go back to being a man. You watch the super bowl this year? Freaking black eyed peas on the half time show, bastardizing a true american sport and destroying our children's sense of what is normal. b/c normal isn't some jacknugget wearing a half plastic shield on his face; we should be thinking about football, but instead, we're subjected to something that makes us feel like sissies inside. the half time show should be ron swanson sitting on the 50 yard line, smoking a cigar and drinking scotch for 15 minutes.

yes, i ranted, i hate everyone singing and dancing all the damn time

This is, in many ways, the antithesis of what the majority of posts here seem to be trying to convey - the idea that to be a "man", you have to be obsessed with projecting an almost cartoon-like image of "manliness".

What are people even doing on a homebrew site then? If that is what makes a man, every beer-related post would look something like:

"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis."
 
I sometimes carry a Timbuktu messenger bag. It the same brand that many a bike messenger have battle tested on the streets of Big City, USA. It's the perfect size for a few magazines. I landed on it crashing a skateboard once. It came out better than I did. I also enjoy ballroom dancing. Tell me I'm not a man. I'm 6' 230lbs of man and I smell like one.
 
Im designing a brew that smells like my armpits how manly is that huh?! Im dry hopping with onions, and giving it lots of light during fermentation. Does anyone want to work out a trade for some?
 
I'm with McMalty.

:mug:

It's pretty sad when I was planning this week's camping trip I couldn't get more than 2 other guys to come. Everyone else I asked refused to go unless there was bathrooms, a shower, and electricity. Pu&&ies! When the sh*t starts flying, they'll all run to me though and overwhelm my defenses and supplies.
 
I'm with McMalty.

:mug:

It's pretty sad when I was planning this week's camping trip I couldn't get more than 2 other guys to come. Everyone else I asked refused to go unless there was bathrooms, a shower, and electricity. Pu&&ies! When the sh*t starts flying, they'll all run to me though and overwhelm my defenses and supplies.

Ever considered the possibility that when guys think about going to the woods with you they imagine the sound of banjos in their heads? :cross:
 
You really want to know what happened to men? Turn on your TV. Half the damn shows on network television are about dancing, singing, or complaining. Who decided it was a good idea to have our NFL heroes "dance with the stars"? I don't want to see that $h!t. Thanks a lot fox, now i hate Jerry Rice. Television has made society soft and melodramatic. Every time someone feigns crying just to get attention, i want to push them into a volcano instead. Oh you didn't win American Idol? Good, b/c now you can stop crying and go back to being a man. You watch the super bowl this year? Freaking black eyed peas on the half time show, bastardizing a true american sport and destroying our children's sense of what is normal. b/c normal isn't some jacknugget wearing a half plastic shield on his face; we should be thinking about football, but instead, we're subjected to something that makes us feel like sissies inside. the half time show should be ron swanson sitting on the 50 yard line, smoking a cigar and drinking scotch for 15 minutes.

yes, i ranted, i hate everyone singing and dancing all the damn time

Please. If you wanted to really talk about being a man, you wouldn't be talking about that pu$$y sport of football. Bunch of pansies running around with helmets and pads on.
 
George Carlin refered to it as" The Continued pussification of the American Male". and I think it is getting worse. I work in New York city or as I like to refer to it " freak central" and I swear men have started to carry purses! Not breif cases or computer bages, purses. I'm not homophobic, these are straight men.

There are certain skills I believe every man should know, Mechanics Illustrated listed 100 of them and I'll bet alot of these guys can't do 2.

Example) I have a tenant that asked if I could make the domestic water hotter. No problem "I'll walk you through it over the phone". Not possible, he coudn't find the red dial on the gas valve. So I had to drive 32 miles, pay $12 in tolls to turn a dail a qaurtet turn to the left. While I was there he asked me to change a light bulb. A FRIGGIN LIGHT BULB! Was not embarssed in the least while his wife looked on.

I used to do a lot of service work and was amazed at what people would have me do. Changing light bulbs were in the top 25%. No need for a long ladder, just a light bulb change standing on a step stool. All because their father didn't take the time to show them basic skills.

I remember going into an apartment to do a renovation for some Japanese girls who were going to school nearby. While I was there, I noticed they had a respectably stocked tool box and a Dewalt drill. When I asked about it they told me their father had given it to them and taught them how to repair certain things that might go wrong in an apartment. Amazing.


I think this is all part of the yuppy effect that occurs in big cities.
 
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