Required Base Grain Amount?

[noggins]

Let's just say I'm being silly and I wanted to cereal mash some brown rice, oatmeal, spaghetti, and corn with some 6 row to make some sort of horrible concoction. Is there a certain amount, or ratio of the base grain that is required for the other grains to work right?

I remember reading somewhere here(of course I can't find it now) that every all-grain requires a certain amount of either 2 or 6 row for the other ingredients to be able to convert into something fermentable. I tried searching but couldn't come up with any numbers.

Anyone have any input on this?

 

[BigB]

According to Randy Mosher, 6 row can convert up to 60% grain adjuncts, 2 row US convert up to 35%, and pilsener can convert up to 40%. So the percentage would be the amount of the grain bill. For example, if 6 row can convert up to 60%, then for a 10 lb grain bill you would have up to 6 lbs adjuncts and 4 lbs 6 row. I personally wouldn't push it that far to the limits though. Mosher, Randy "Radical Brewing", pg 44.

 

[noggins]

So if I'm making 1 gallon of whateverthehellyouwannacallit beer, and I use 1 lb of 6row, I could in theory use 0.25 lbs each of rice, oatmeal, pasta, and corn.

Anybody ever tried anything like this, outside of doing a GAP experiment; ie: using actual yeast and hops?

 

[noggins]

Anybody ever tried anything like this, outside of doing a GAP experiment; ie: using actual yeast and hops?

Why do I get the feeling I'm about to be banned again...

 

[ArcaneXor]

You don't have to use malt if you don't want to, you just have to use amylase enzyme powder.

 

[bbrim]

It might be more productive to use one adjunct at a time so you can get to know the flavor of each one before you create a medley.

 

[noggins]

It might be more productive to use one adjunct at a time so you can get to know the flavor of each one before you create a medley.

so like...for a 1 gallon batch: 1lb of 6row and 1lb of (spaghetti or oatmeal or rice or corn) is 2lb of total fermentables good?

what's a good general hop and yeast combo to use? I was thinking of using cascade just cause it's cheap and pretty basic.

 

[wilserbrewer]

The last batch I did w/ 6 row, spaghetti, corn, rice, and oatmeal, i also used cascade and dry hopped w/ nugget. I also added blueberries to the keg...

Just kidding, I think you are in unchartered waters my friend. Brew it up and report back.

 

[wildwest450]

Why do I get the feeling I'm about to be banned again...

You should be for that recipe.


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[Patirck]

Anybody ever tried anything like this, outside of doing a GAP experiment; ie: using actual yeast and hops?

I tried this kind of thing once. I ended up calling it barf beer. If you can imagine someone on an empty stomach pounding a cheap nasty beer down, then puking it back into a glass and handing it to you - that's what it tasted like. I kept on giving it time but it actually got worse. It was the the first batch I through out.

 

[noggins]

good to know, I guess I'll stick with other peoples recipes for a while, only using grocery store items when appropriate..

 

[jaginger]

why on earth would you even want to brew something like that?

 

[Northcalais40]

As a general rule, I wouldn't eat anything for dinner that they sell at the brew store, and I wouldn't brew with (almost) anything they sell at the grocery store.

 

[mcaple1]

As a general rule, I wouldn't eat anything for dinner that they sell at the brew store, and I wouldn't brew with (almost) anything they sell at the grocery store.

words of wisdom

 

[ArcaneXor]

As a general rule, I wouldn't eat anything for dinner that they sell at the brew store

You're missing out. Try some finely milled Briess Cherry Smoked Malt as a breading for meats. Try some Victory, Carared or Crisp C-77 when baking bread. Try some D or D2 candi syrup as a topping for puddings or ice cream.