Random Beer Thoughts

[JulianB1]

Curmudgeon's Better Half was the best of the series.

Accurate post is accurate. I'd put the 2014/15 draft CBS batch up there too (never got to try a 2011 bottle fresh, last one I had was gross).

 

[Gaseous Clay]

Curmudgeon's Better Half was good but it had this somewhat black-liquorish flavor I couldnt get past. Meh beer done well though.

 

[beerindex]

Accurate post is accurate. I'd put the 2014/15 draft CBS batch up there too (never got to try a 2011 bottle fresh, last one I had was gross).

Basically everything Founders has gone downhill over the years. CBS in the really early era was better than the 2011 bottling, which was better than more recent draft-only batches. KBS in 2007 was amazing, less so by 2010, and no longer worthwhile by 2012; haven't had it since. Curmudgeon's Better Half was better in the pre-bottle era when it was Kaiser Curmudgeon.

 

[Lutter]

I drank my 2 bottles of DKML last night.

Yeah, that's good stuff. Lots of malt and vanilla from the bourbon barrels. It's hot as ****, so if you don't like that, stay away.

Also I decided with my wife that the complete title is "Donkey Kong's Malt Liquor".

 

[Kasher]

Basically everything Founders has gone downhill over the years. CBS in the really early era was better than the 2011 bottling, which was better than more recent draft-only batches. KBS in 2007 was amazing, less so by 2010, and no longer worthwhile by 2012; haven't had it since. Curmudgeon's Better Half was better in the pre-bottle era when it was Kaiser Curmudgeon.

If being able to crush pallets of All Day, Mosaic Promise and PC Pils means I don't get vintage delicious KBS, sign me up.

 

[beerindex]

If being able to crush pallets of All Day, Mosaic Promise and PC Pils means I don't get vintage delicious KBS, sign me up.

Different strokes I guess; none of those are beers I enjoyed enough to ever want a second time.

 

[gregkoko]

If being able to crush pallets of All Day, Mosaic Promise and PC Pils means I don't get vintage delicious KBS, sign me up.

Just got confirmation 15 packs of Mosaic Promise hit Jersey next week

 

[Josh2]

Founders has finally made it to Montana. All day and porter ate a mainstay in mny fridge now.

 

[furley]

Different strokes I guess; none of those are beers I enjoyed enough to ever want a second time.

 

[trickytunadicky]

Frangelic Porter>Frangelic Mountain Brown>Cashew mountain Brown>Sumatra Mountain Brown. Pls return either of the first two to rotation.

 

[user 312341]

Founders has finally made it to Montana. All day and porter ate a mainstay in mny fridge now.

I don't like All Day, but that Porter is top notch. That and Everett are my favorite of that style.

 

[Locker338]

I don't like All Day, but that Porter is top notch. That and Everett are my favorite of that style.

Everett for life

 

[drgarage1]

Basically everything Founders has gone downhill over the years. CBS in the really early era was better than the 2011 bottling, which was better than more recent draft-only batches. KBS in 2007 was amazing, less so by 2010, and no longer worthwhile by 2012; haven't had it since. Curmudgeon's Better Half was better in the pre-bottle era when it was Kaiser Curmudgeon.

A lot of people tend to lose interest in breweries as they get older. Hard to say if it's because of the drinker or of the brewery.

 

[trickytunadicky]

A lot of people tend to lose interest in breweries as they get older. Hard to say if it's because of the drinker or of the brewery.

Weird, I thought their quality just went down after the Modelo partnership.

 

[drgarage1]

Weird, I thought their quality just went down after the Modelo partnership.

And I think regular Breakfast Stout is still great.

 

[beerindex]

Weird, I thought their quality just went down after the Modelo partnership.

Mahou San Miguel

 

[TommyShitt]

Goddamnit reddit

 

[liquiddegenerate]

Goddamnit reddit

 

[reverseapachemaster1]

Goddamnit reddit

 

[trickytunadicky]

And I think regular Breakfast Stout is still great.

FIS, FBS and even ODB (yes I know that isn't the right acronym, and yet you know exactly what I am referring to) are same ole and still pretty great, KBS still pretty just okay. They seem to have scaled back on innovation and variety, though and a lot of the new stuff is some variation on a pale ale that will pay the bills. You used to be able to go into the tap room and they would have a whole variety of innovation brews and some of them would be a scaled back version of the next backstage beer (see Frangelic Porter vs FMB). I would say I couldn't tell you the last time visiting the tap room interested me, but I can, it was right around when they started quietly streamlining things and making changes for the boring. Some of them are smart business moves for things which sell better, but some of them take away their differentiation from every other brewery on the shelf and the hundred other pubs in Michigan.

 

[beerindex]

FIS, FBS and even ODB (yes I know that isn't the right acronym, and yet you know exactly what I am referring to) are same ole and still pretty great, KBS still pretty just okay. They seem to have scaled back on innovation and variety, though and a lot of the new stuff is some variation on a pale ale that will pay the bills. You used to be able to go into the tap room and they would have a whole variety of innovation brews and some of them would be a scaled back version of the next backstage beer (see Frangelic Porter vs FMB). I would say I couldn't tell you the last time visiting the tap room interested me, but I can, it was right around when they started quietly streamlining things and making changes for the boring. Some of them are smart business moves for things which sell better, but some of them take away their differentiation from every other brewery on the shelf and the hundred other pubs in Michigan.

The last time I dropped in was the for the Cellar Raid, and their offerings even compared to a year earlier were really boring. Wherea before I might make 3-4 visits during the cellar raid, a single one hour visit was more than enough this year. I live maybe 15 minutes from the brewery, and I can count on one hand (with fingers to spare) the number of times per year I bother going any more. I have a friend visiting next month who wants to stop in for whatever reason, and I suspect it'll be my last visit of 2017. I guess the upside is that compared to the days when Founders was hot ****, there's way more variety in town, to so their decline isn't necessarily a huge blow.

 

[WhalezB4Rarez]

Goddamnit reddit

I don't know if that post was supposed to be a joke or not.

But it did make me think. Now that there are 5,000 breweries out there and many of them are putting out small bottle runs I would think it's harder for something to become a "whale"

10-20 years ago when there were way less breweries it may have been easier for something to become a "whale". My thinking is that you didn't have that many beers being hyped so they didn't get lost in the weeds.

I dunno I'm just spit balling.

 

[Beer4B]

I dunno I'm just wasting my time even giving thought to this beer ******-baggery of a consideration.

FTFY.

 

[gregkoko]

http://tenemu.com/news/sixpoint-hires-former-trillium-head-brewer-chief-product-officer/08/2017

Sixpoint Brewery has hired Eric Bachli to head a new product development team that will be “dedicated to taking innovation, R&D, and Mad Science to the next level.”

Eric Bachli is a former head brewer at Boston, Mass.-based Trillium Brewing Co. where he worked for two years. Before that, he was a scientist in the pharmaceutical industry before spending time at Jack’s Abbey Craft Lagers and as a brewer for the Craft Brew Alliance in Portsmouth, N.H. In addition, he has degrees from both the Siebel Institute and the UC Davis Master Brewers Program, and he holds a diploma in brewing from the Institute of Brewing and Distilling.

“I’m incredibly excited to join Shane and the Sixpoint team as we continue to pour our collective passion for brewing into innovative beers and experiences,” said Bachli in a press release. “The imagination and creativity from Sixpoint has been a major influence and reminds me why I got into the beer industry in the first place. I got a good look at that imagination, and knew I had to be a part of it.”

Bacilli will be teaming up with Horace Cunningham, Sixpoint’s vice president of brewing and quality, and Sixpoint founder Shane Welch to create the new product development team, which will be tasked with keeping the brewery’s year-round beers consistent, but will also be devising new limited beers, including “a new wave of small batch, innovative beers starting this fall through a first-of-its-kind sales channel.”

According to a press release, Bachli will formally start at Sixpoint in November.

Iiiiiiiiiinteresting. This line of thought had never really crossed my mind before, why buy a brewery when you can hire/buy someone with the ideas behind it?

Not that I think this will have any huge adverse effect on Trillium, just very interesting.

 

[sacrelicio]

http://tenemu.com/news/sixpoint-hires-former-trillium-head-brewer-chief-product-officer/08/2017



Iiiiiiiiiinteresting. This line of thought had never really crossed my mind before, why buy a brewery when you can hire/buy someone with the ideas behind it?

Not that I think this will have any huge adverse effect on Trillium, just very interesting.

Exciting time, breweries are just gonna get better and better. Trillium-level IPAs and lagerwines on shelves across the US? I hope so.

 

[stupac2]

Exciting time, breweries are just gonna get better and better. Trillium-level IPAs and lagerwines on shelves across the US? I hope so.

If they can scale. At this point I think you're better off assuming they won't.

 

[beerindex]

http://tenemu.com/news/sixpoint-hires-former-trillium-head-brewer-chief-product-officer/08/2017



Iiiiiiiiiinteresting. This line of thought had never really crossed my mind before, why buy a brewery when you can hire/buy someone with the ideas behind it?

Not that I think this will have any huge adverse effect on Trillium, just very interesting.

For the first time in a long time, I wish Sixpoint would return to MI.

 

[user 312341]

ODB (yes I know that isn't the right acronym, and yet you know exactly what I am referring to)

http://tenemu.com/news/sixpoint-hires-former-trillium-head-brewer-chief-product-officer/08/2017

So, perhaps Sixpoint (even the stuff actually brewed in the area) will be relevant again?

A lot of people tend to lose interest in breweries as they get older. Hard to say if it's because of the drinker or of the brewery.

...Curious as to what a "first-of-its-kind sales channel" will be.

 

[cry me]

Never ticked it and really want to . Mango habanero Jai Alai is one of the greatest things I've tasted and as far as I know they never rebrewed it. So Mango Magnifico sounded like the next best thing.

It isn't.

 

[Jnorton00]

Sixpoint beers are some of the worst beers I've ever had that were supposed to be "good".