Random Beer Thoughts

[wuntrikpony]

I like some black IPAs, but given the choice, there are none I would choose over a real IPA, if both are from great breweries.

don't go out on a limb or anything...

 

[sacrelicio]

don't go out on a limb or anything...

I certainly didn't. Your point?

 

[wuntrikpony]

I certainly didn't. Your point?

My point being that pretty much everyone agrees. Except people in Portland who would complain that you didn't say Cascadian Dark ales.

 

[sacrelicio]

My point being that pretty much everyone agrees. Except people in Portland who would complain that you didn't say Cascadian Dark ales.

Your point is that most people agree with my point?

 

[wuntrikpony]

Your point is that most people agree with my point?

www.bingo.yes/agreed.html

 

[harrymel1]

Another non-scientific, anecdotal, probably confirmation-bias opinion: I find that generally cans hold up better than bottles.

preach.

All day. Wish every beer was packaged in cans. Except homebrew.

EDIT: unless there was an economical way to can beer from home

 

[ckowalski]

how many beers out there are made with lemondrop hops?

Chasin' Freshies this year is. Just picked up a bottle today but haven't tried it yet.

Stone's delicious ipa is brewed with lemondrop hops too. I thought that one was pretty good.

 

[BadJustin]

I'm drinking Melcher Street that's 6 weeks old right now and it's still better than Julius. Worst Trillium I've had though.

Can't comment on the > Julius aspect but agree it's the weakest I've had from them.

 

[furley]

Chasin' Freshies this year is. Just picked up a bottle today but haven't tried it yet.

that's the one i was drinking last night. first time i'd seen a beer made with those hops.

bit of a letdown from whatever hop they were using last year, which i thought was excellent.

 

[ASak10]

that's the one i was drinking last night. first time i'd seen a beer made with those hops.

bit of a letdown from whatever hop they were using last year, which i thought was excellent.

Well that sucks I really liked I last year as well.

 

[furley]

Well that sucks I really liked I last year as well.

looks like the '14 was Mosaic

did not know that

eta: the '15 i had was best by 1/31/16

 

[sostark]

Shorts Bludgeon Yer Eye and Goodnight Bodacious are solid black ipas

 

[falc0n26001]

My point being that pretty much everyone agrees. Except people in Portland who would complain that you didn't say Cascadian Dark ales.

It's funny, I've lived in Portland for over a year now and I can't find a single person who can explain to me why they want to call them Cascadian dark ales... What is the original beer that popularized the term? I can't think of any breweries in Portland or even in Oregon besides Boneyard making a really great CDA.

 

[RayP]

how many beers out there are made with lemondrop hops?

From Creature Comforts' website:

ARCADIANA
SAISON
Today for Curious Tuesday, we bring you our American interpretation of the Saison style: Arcadiana. For this special beer, we utilized a lesser-used yeast strain from a small producer in Belgium that features a complex yet subtle yeast character with juicy fruit notes balanced by light phenolic spice. Its lemony and herbal aromatic hop character is attained through generous kettle and dry hopping with American Lemondrop and Crystal hops. These American hop additions make Arcadiana a highly refreshing drink for a hot summer day.

 

[wuntrikpony]

It's funny, I've lived in Portland for over a year now and I can't find a single person who can explain to me why they want to call them Cascadian dark ales... What is the original beer that popularized the term? I can't think of any breweries in Portland or even in Oregon besides Boneyard making a really great CDA.

Great question, wish I knew. I thought the OG black IPAs were from the northeast.

 

[boogercrack]

It's funny, I've lived in Portland for over a year now and I can't find a single person who can explain to me why they want to call them Cascadian dark ales... What is the original beer that popularized the term? I can't think of any breweries in Portland or even in Oregon besides Boneyard making a really great CDA.

Deschutes Hop In The Dark was the fist one I remember going by that name, but I'm sure it wasn't the first. That was only like 5 years ago

 

[wyatt1]

I think one of the stone anniversaries started the big argument about black IPAs and CDAs.

 

[sacrelicio]

It's funny, I've lived in Portland for over a year now and I can't find a single person who can explain to me why they want to call them Cascadian dark ales... What is the original beer that popularized the term? I can't think of any breweries in Portland or even in Oregon besides Boneyard making a really great CDA.

It's one of those non-styles, like the "east coast IPA" or "Florida weisse." But there is a brewery here (Steel Toe) that makes a beer called Douglas (with a Douglas Fir on the label) that they call a Cascadian dark ale. FWIW the brewer was in Oregon for awhile brewing at Pelican.

 

[JulianB1]

I got some random beer book a few years ago from a friend who picked it up at one of those sidewalk sales at Barnes & Noble, and it contained an interesting little story about Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous. Apparently Koch and some others from Stone were at Extreme Beer Fest one year many years ago, and the beer that really blew them away was a black IPA from The Shed brewpub in Vermont. I think you can all guess who brewed it. So Sublimely Self-Righteous was their attempt to recreate that beer; was it one of the earlier commercial examples available?

Regarding the choice of style name (or non-style as sacrelicio rightly points out), I've heard anecdotally the name "Cascadian dark ale" was an attempt to get away from the contradictory nature of "black IPA", i.e. the use of both black and pale as color descriptors. I presume Cascadian was a nod to the fact that PNW beers are traditionally known for their hoppiness.

 

[yamar68]

Who gives a ****?

 

[Gonzoillini1]

I got some random beer book a few years ago from a friend who picked it up at one of those sidewalk sales at Barnes & Noble, and it contained an interesting little story about Stone Sublimely Self-Righteous. Apparently Koch and some others from Stone were at Extreme Beer Fest one year many years ago, and the beer that really blew them away was a black IPA from The Shed brewpub in Vermont. I think you can all guess who brewed it. So Sublimely Self-Righteous was their attempt to recreate that beer; was it one of the earlier commercial examples available?

Regarding the choice of style name (or non-style as sacrelicio rightly points out), I've heard anecdotally the name "Cascadian dark ale" was an attempt to get away from the contradictory nature of "black IPA", i.e. the use of both black and pale as color descriptors. I presume Cascadian was a nod to the fact that PNW beers are traditionally known for their hoppiness.

http://byo.com/hops/item/2013-birth-of-a-new-style-cascadian-dark-ale

Article from the June 2010 issue of Brew Your Own discussing the original examples, where the name comes from, style guidelines, etc...

 

[anteater1]

is Hoof Hearted Brewing supposed sounds like Who Farted Brewing?

 

[jivex5k1]

is Hoof Hearted Brewing supposed sounds like Who Farted Brewing?

100% Dad approved.

 

[falc0n26001]

http://byo.com/hops/item/2013-birth-of-a-new-style-cascadian-dark-ale

Article from the June 2010 issue of Brew Your Own discussing the original examples, where the name comes from, style guidelines, etc...

Nice! Thanks! Exactly what I was wondering.

 

[Snarf1]

I can't find the posts I want on Shut up about Barclay Perkins, but 'black ipa' certainly isn't the first hoppy black beer. When Ron Pattinson came to speak earlier this year, the guy who put the talk together also brewed some of the historical recipes Ron has published. One of them was a porter (or stout, I can't remember, no difference either way) that was well over 100 theoretical IBUs with massive late additions and entirely hopped with EKG. Best hoppy black beer I've ever had and 2nd isn't close.

 

[jedwards]

I can't find the posts I want on Shut up about Barclay Perkins, but 'black ipa' certainly isn't the first hoppy black beer. When Ron Pattinson came to speak earlier this year, the guy who put the talk together also brewed some of the historical recipes Ron has published. One of them was a porter (or stout, I can't remember, no difference either way) that was well over 100 theoretical IBUs with massive late additions and entirely hopped with EKG. Best hoppy black beer I've ever had and 2nd isn't close.

Ron also provided the brewsheet/recipe for the Pretty Things KK which would definitely qualify as a black IPA under most modern definitions. Love reading his work about unexpectedly hoppy historic styles.

 

[arren]

Many don't even adjust their water. Out of the ones that do, a lot just put 5.2 stabilizer in it. .

That sounds terrible and I don't even know why. Out of curiosity, what does that do to the end product?

 

[sacrelicio]

Can't comment on the > Julius aspect but agree it's the weakest I've had from them.

Julius is awesome but it's not the best of the "regular" IPAs from them.

 

[BadJustin]

Julius is awesome but it's not the best of the "regular" IPAs from them.

I also misspoke. Drunk post was drunken.

The Melcher st, weakest Trillium I've had.

I have a mixed case of TH beers coming next week, only had Julius. Excited for some variety. I enjoy those offerings much more than HF, which I've had plenty of.

 

[boogercrack]

My grocery store now has a home brewing magazine in the impulse buy line at the checkouts, next to cosmo and other ********.

It is a brave new world.