Random Beer Thoughts

[ant880]

Why does the community **** all over people for actually sacking up and trying?

Because I hate anyone who is, a) more ambitious than I am or, b) more successful than I am.

So everyone, basically.

 

[lazerviking]

Because I hate anyone who is, a) more ambitious than I am or, b) more successful than I am.

So everyone, basically.

 

[ant880]

I hate Morrissey. That ambitiously successful piece of ****.

 

[litheum94]

A bunch of people can cook a good dinner. Not many people can run a successful restaurant.

The exact same thing, just less vitriol.

It’s the American dream to take your hobby and take a shot at turning it into a legitimate way to make a living. Why does the community **** all over people for actually sacking up and trying?

Beer people are the worst.

Hey buddy, you take your level headed, practical response and get the **** out of here.

 

[lazerviking]

I hate Morrissey. That ambitiously successful piece of ****.

 

[Ziggy]

So I'm kind of unclear on this. If you win this Black Tuesday lottery, does that mean you have to pick up the bottles in person? A lot of peeps looking for proxies on FB. I was under the impression that reserve society members had the option of having their beers shipped to them.

 

[MooseLang]

Eh, I don't hate anyone for taking a chance. But in a beer forum, I don't feel too bad venting about the influx of crappy breweries that are constantly opening up, especially in the areas of the Country I frequent the most. It's not like I'm being specific and calling out breweries / people by name. Am I over-generalizing (as I have said about 3 times already) about the homebrewer-becomes-pro model? Absolutely. I am just venting a bit.

It strikes a bit of a nerve at times, because there are a **** ton of homebrewers out there who still have dreams of opening their own place or brewing professionally. And that's fine! So when ******** like me spout off with made up numbers about all the ****** breweries that are opening up, they take it personally.

To use the restaurant example, I feel I can cook a good dinner. But let's say I have an inflated opinion of my own cooking, and rush into opening my own restaurant that serves bad-to-mediocre food. Should people not criticize my food because I am trying hard and chasing the American dream? That would mean that foodies are also the worst....oh wait **** bad example.

 

[JulianB1]

My wariness about the homebrewers-turned-professionals segment, and I may be totally wrong about this, is that the feeling I get is it makes up a disproportionately high fraction of two behavioral categories that I generally dislike:

1. Breweries that try to fund via crowdsourcing campaigns rather than business loans or selling equity to raise capital.

2. Breweries who start pumping out and serving beer too quickly, either because they refuse to dump any batches and/or because they want to be pouring at festivals while the ink is still wet on their license.

So really it's not the idea that bothers me at all, but rather behaviors I tend to associate with it.

 

[JulianB1]

So I'm kind of unclear on this. If you win this Black Tuesday lottery, does that mean you have to pick up the bottles in person? A lot of peeps looking for proxies on FB. I was under the impression that reserve society members had the option of having their beers shipped to them.

The people looking for proxies are presumably looking for a Reserve Society member who lives in California. The Bruery won't ship beer outside the state.

I do find it amusing how many beer geeks enter lotteries, be in Black Tuesday or Upland or whatever, and only after they win the right to purchase bottles do they start thinking about or inquiring as to getting a trustee.

 

[boogercrack]

To use the restaurant example, I feel I can cook a good dinner. But let's say I have an inflated opinion of my own cooking, and rush into opening my own restaurant that serves bad-to-mediocre food. Should people not criticize my food because I am trying hard and chasing the American dream? That would mean that foodies are also the worst....oh wait **** bad example.

not at all! criticism is great.

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

**** like that is just ****** up man.

 

[boogercrack]

I do find it amusing how many beer geeks enter lotteries, be in Black Tuesday or Upland or whatever, and only after they win the right to purchase bottles do they start thinking about or inquiring as to getting a trustee.

the worst are the people who enter for the express intent of auctioning off their winning lottery entry for a thank you box.

which, i have seen.

 

[MooseLang]

not at all! criticism is great.

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

**** like that is just ****** up man.

Haha well when you put it like that, yeah that's ****** up. But also not *really* related to my bitching.

When I have a beer I don't like, I will choke it down politely, go home, then post blanket statements about homebrewers and breweries nowadays.

 

[JulianB1]

I think there is a beer-related hashtag for every god damn day of the year now. I'm starting to think breweries are just inventing them as an easy way to bait customers on social media:

"It's #blackIPAday, so come in and get a pint of our Cascadian dark ale, $1 off all pints all day!"

 

[housepants]

But it's just a beer forum where we can say whatever we want...

i had a random beer thought for you

 

[Ziggy]

The people looking for proxies are presumably looking for a Reserve Society member who lives in California. The Bruery won't ship beer outside the state.

I do find it amusing how many beer geeks enter lotteries, be in Black Tuesday or Upland or whatever, and only after they win the right to purchase bottles do they start thinking about or inquiring as to getting a trustee.

******* overkill just for beer

 

[ASak10]

The people looking for proxies are presumably looking for a Reserve Society member who lives in California. The Bruery won't ship beer outside the state.

I do find it amusing how many beer geeks enter lotteries, be in Black Tuesday or Upland or whatever, and only after they win the right to purchase bottles do they start thinking about or inquiring as to getting a trustee.

As opposed to what, having everyone who enters the lottery try to line up a trustee first, for what is likely no reason? If I were entering one of those lotteries I'd wait until I knew I won before lining up someone...otherwise why waste the time?

 

[JulianB1]

As opposed to what, having everyone who enters the lottery try to line up a trustee first, for what is likely no reason? If I were entering one of those lotteries I'd wait until I knew I won before lining up someone...otherwise why waste the time?

Okay, when you put it like that I see your point. I guess I just don't even think about entering any of these lotteries unless I already know I have a friend or someone who I have a good relationship with online who I know could get the beer for me.

But yeah, if you are just going to cold-call for a trustee I suppose it's better to wait until you've actually won something.

 

[jivex5k1]

 

[trickytunadicky]

not at all! criticism is great.

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

**** like that is just ****** up man.

Ever hear of a little website called Yelp!?

 

[ASak10]

Ever hear of a little website called Yelp!?

The only place worse than BA is Yelp. I don't say that lightly. **** Yelp.

 

[sacrelicio]

I totally agree, but you're making it hard for me to over-generalize and bitch about the ****** breweries that are constantly opening in my surrounding area .

Tons and tons of great homebrewers out there, many of whom could move up to a commercial scale and churn out great beers. I just get frustrated because it seems like they're the ones that aren't opening up shop.

On the flip side, I've had beer from Seibel / Davis educated brewers that is incredibly boring, and brewed only to 2008 BJCP guidelines.

Boring certified BJ

 

[JulianB1]

The only place worse than BA is Yelp. I don't say that lightly. **** Yelp.

I actually believed that fake news story about the owners of Yelp suing South Park over the episode making fun of Yelp, because it sounded exactly like the kind of thing those pieces of **** would do.

 

[sblank1]

My best example is Heretic Brewing Company run by Jamil Zainasheff who was well regarded as the best homebrewer in the country (maybe Gordon Strong gave him a run for his money), but everything he has put out commercially has been ok to meh with very little that has stood out among the crowd in California.

Kind of a tangent here but he was on the last Sour Hour and went on some little rants about how a lot of big breweries don't have 100% pure yeast when scoped ("you wouldn't BELIEVE how many"). Also, how the ideal new-hire candidate is someone with a college degree and work experience (not beer related) but who is dedicated enough and wants to break into the beer industry soooo bad that they'll work for minimum wage. All I could think was "so your ideal candidate is someone who's clearly a ******* idiot?" If this thinking is industry standard I'd hazard to guess that's a good part of the reason why so many homebrewers are going straight to trying to open their own place rather than getting to know the ropes first.

 

[sacrelicio]

not at all! criticism is great.

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

**** like that is just ****** up man.

Beer people do have a unique blend of entitlement and misanthropy, amplified by self loathing and pruned sexual urges

 

[Sage1]

**** Yelp.

Srsly, about the only thing I use Yelp for these days is the “Accepts Credit Cards?” bit. I would be perfectly happy if they pruned everything else off the website and just had that bit of info. (I hate carrying cash.)

 

[brentsdodgers]

I actually believed that fake news story about the owners of Yelp suing South Park over the episode making fun of Yelp, because it sounded exactly like the kind of thing those pieces of **** would do.

Wouldn't they just create a Yelp page for South Park and give it a one star review. But somewhere in that review it would read "if I could, I would give this show 0 stars".

 

[arren]

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

dontdrinkbeer

The only place worse than BA is Yelp. I don't say that lightly. **** Yelp.

I didn't think of Yelp as anything more than a nuisance until I met Yelp Elite members.

 

[stupac2]

not at all! criticism is great.

but when's the last time you saw a foodie take a plate from a restaurant ouside, and pour the contents into the sewer, video tape it, and talk a ton of **** about the cook and post the video to the facebook page of the restaurant?

**** like that is just ****** up man.

When's the last time you went to a restaurant and were served food that was completely inedible? I can't say that's ever happened to me. And yet there are brewers that release completely terrible, irrecoverably flawed beers. I'm still convinced that if you sent a bottle of Bully Guppy to the FDA they'd declare it unfit for human consumption.

 

[lazerviking]

I didn't think of Yelp as anything more than a nuisance until I met Yelp Elite members.

My brother's gf is a yelp elite member. Do I need to be worried?

 

[arren]

My brother's gf is a yelp elite member. Do I need to be worried?

Eh, one Yelp Elite is fine. Get them in a group, however, and they turn into the Mean Girls of food.