Priming tank/bucket as a keg?

[snyderb]

Hi,

I saw on Munton's website that the guy uses his priming tank/bucket as his keg to dispense his beer instead of bottling it or kegging in a real keg. This link here is their video tutorial where the guy talks about priming and dispensing in the same vessel:

Muntons | World Class Malt | Home

I have never heard of this and wondered if this is a common practice and if it is a viable substitute for a metal keg or bottling...

Thanks

 

[dataz722]

wow, I never thought following craigtube could be considered advanced brewing.... this takes the cake as far as simple.... and it was made by muntons is what is most shocking. Just make sure you dont leave it on a washing machine.


Oh btw... I guess kegging that way would work but it probably wouldnt make the best results. It would probably be harder to judge carbonation levels and that would get oxidized very quickly.

 

[Nurmey]

That is called a pressure tank and I believe they are fairly common in some European countries and the UK. I don't know any where in the US that has them but someone might. From what I've read from users of the pressure tank, I don't think they work that well for dispensing. This is all second hand knowledge so I don't know if I actually know anything about it.

Welcome to HBT!

 

[Flyin' Lion]

It would probably be harder to judge carbonation levels and that would get oxidized very quickly.

While the method does lend itself to simplicity, I agree that it would be difficult to maintain any kind of specific carbonation levels. That being said, just how exactly would this get oxidized if the pressure tank is on Co2 the entire time?

This is certainly not advanced brewing--its mixing indredients from a can, but the OP's question was about carbonating/dispensing which can be done in this manner.

snyderb, what the video shows is a type of keg and I suppose it could be an alternative to bottling/keggin in a metal keg. Ultimately you'll need to make that decision, though.

Oh yeah, welcome to the boards.

 

[noremorse1]

I guess they drink beer at room temp there too.

 

[snyderb]

Thanks guys for your input.

I think I'll just stick with bottling for now.

I just started my first batch ever with Munton's Export Stout and added some 3.3 lbs of unhopped light malt to try to make more of an extra foreign stout...hope it turns out well.

 

[flyangler18]

That pressure tank is really no different from the 5L Fass-Frisch kegs. Naturally conditioned, low carbonation levels, gravity fed. Excellent for session ales!

 

[bull8042]

And to think of all the time I have been wasting mashing, boiling, chilling..... I can envision the next brew day being much less stressful! hehehe

Welcome to HBT, by the way. Sorry for the sarcasm. I learned it from my ex-wife.

 

[dataz722]

That being said, just how exactly would this get oxidized if the pressure tank is on Co2 the entire time?

Because that "keg" would have to be vented or it would cause a vacuum and no more beer would come out or if it did it would be VERY slow. When it is vented it would be pulling o2 into the "keg" and this would cause it to oxidize.

 

[bull8042]

Because that "keg" would have to be vented or it would cause a vacuum and no more beer would come out or if it did it would be VERY slow. When it is vented it would be pulling o2 into the "keg" and this would cause it to oxidize.

I think they are relying on positive pressure being maintained by CO2 generated by the yeasties and priming sugar. He also mentioned the use of a CO2 canister if there weren't enough carbonation produced naturally. There would never be any vacuum, therefore any likelihood of air/O2 being drawn back into the container if that is true.

 

[dataz722]

I think they are relying on positive pressure being maintained by CO2 generated by the yeasties and priming sugar. He also mentioned the use of a CO2 canister if there weren't enough carbonation produced naturally. There would never be any vacuum, therefore any likelihood of air/O2 being drawn back into the container if that is true.

Well if you didnt have a co2 tank (which if you are naturaly carbonating you probably dont) then eventually there will not be enogh co2 to push unless the beer was warmed and it came out of solution and in that case you would have flat beer.

It is basiclly the same thing as a cask beer with a hand pump, except just draining instead of the hand pump. Unless they have been fitted with co2 and a breather they will oxidize too.

 

[bull8042]

Well if you didnt have a co2 tank (which if you are naturaly carbonating you probably dont).....

We didn't watch all of the video did we?

(Sorry, there's that dang sarcasm again!)

 

[MrNate]

I've done it. It works about as well as you might imagine.