Poll: Do you have, or plan to get, an electric car?

[Kent88]

GM is pushing back the EV Silverado by a year.

 

[Kent88]

 

[sibelman]

how many visits

... not to mention the obvious: how many visits to the gas station EVs avoid

Maybe it's because I live in Western Oregon, but no one has objected to my driving electric. One guy spoke of the environmental impact of lithium battery production and worries about disposal, and falsely claimed ICE is more efficient.

Sounds like some of y'all have taken a fair amount of abuse for your car choices, which stinks but, sadly, does not surprise me.

As EVs become more common, this nonsense should settle down, notwithstanding the ridiculous politicization @Airborneguy referenced.

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

This would be the sort of EV truck I'd be interested in... Hope they make it.

https://insideevs.com/news/693111/toyota-epu-concept-close-look/

 

[tracer bullet]

And this is the kind of EV I'm interested in! I hope they make it.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/el...-gorgeous-twin-rotor-electric-mazda-iconic-sp
I will admit to being slightly unsure of exactly what it is. A hybrid, I guess. I'm fine with that.

 

[doug293cz]

And this is the kind of EV I'm interested in! I hope they make it.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/el...-gorgeous-twin-rotor-electric-mazda-iconic-sp
I will admit to being slightly unsure of exactly what it is. A hybrid, I guess. I'm fine with that.

According to the description, it is a hybrid, although I didn't see that word on a quick skim.

Brew on

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

I will admit to being slightly unsure of exactly what it is. A hybrid, I guess. I'm fine with that.

Interesting. Not a traditional PHEV. More like a BEV with an onboard generator in case you need to recharge after you've exceeded battery range.

IMHO a pure BEV might have been a better choice. But I guess if there isn't a rotary engine, is it really an RX?

 

[Airborneguy]

I want to EV swap an older Miata. Small battery, just enough to tool around on nice days.

 

[day_trippr]

Mazda's design center has been stuck on melted bean of late, which is a shame.
That car could use some edgy artistic assistance from the likes of Lotus, for instance...

Cheers!

 

[sibelman]

edgy

Maybe this would do?

(would've included pic but HBT doesn't want to upload .webp files)

 

[Rodent]

Maybe this would do?

(would've included pic but HBT doesn't want to upload .webp files)

styled like Toyota took Tesla's truck and morphed it into a sedan - meh

 

[day_trippr]

Boat draggers might jump at this when it arrives...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/business/stellantis-ramcharger/index.html

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

It's almost like someone over there at Ram was listening to me

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/business/stellantis-ramcharger/index.html

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

Boat draggers might jump at this when it arrives...

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/business/stellantis-ramcharger/index.html

I swear you beat me by about 2 seconds on that one...

 

[Kent88]

A BEV and a PHEV of the same vehicle at the same time...

If the cost isn't too different, I'll go with the BEV

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

A BEV and a PHEV of the same vehicle at the same time...

If the cost isn't too different, I'll go with the BEV

As will most people. But you're not the target market for this vehicle.

The target market is the guy I brought up a few weeks ago who tows often will have trouble with a BEV truck, and people like him. In his case it wasn't a problem of "range anxiety". It was a problem of "range reality" not meeting his needs, but specifically only in one use case. Problem is that use case is too common for a BEV trick to fit. A PHEV truck would give all the benefits of the BEV when used in daily driver mode, but make it a functional tow vehicle too.

 

[sibelman]

A PHEV truck would give all the benefits of the BEV when used in daily driver mode

I think this was Toyoda's recurring refrain in explain why Toyota wasn't leaping aggressively into BEV production. An electric in-vehicle that can also work for long trips powered by petroleum.

Apparently, we're so good at building ICEs that it's cost effective to include a gas engine with an otherwise electric rig, instead of adding massive battery capacity.

But as we all know, even our best ICEs have many moving parts, substantial maintenance requirements, and that nasty-but-miraculous peteoleum stuff. Still the right choice for many buyers. Dang.

 

[Airborneguy]

I took my wife’s Outback for brakes and a new battery today. Besides the brutal shock of maintenance costs, I had another revelation which almost became problematic: I no longer monitor fuel level.

It’s so rare for me to have to concern myself with paying attention to “fuel tank” levels that I nearly ran out of gas. I never need to worry about “range” in my Tesla.

 

[NickTheGreat]

It's almost like someone over there at Ram was listening to me

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/07/business/stellantis-ramcharger/index.html

I'm not a Dodge guy, but I'd buy this next time up. I'll frequently take 200 or 300 mile trips and I don't want to mess with charging stations or walk up to my FIL with an extension cord at Thanksgiving.

 

[day_trippr]

I am at least 50% Dodge Guy (and 50% Audi Guy), having owned Durangos since 2005, currently on a 2017 R/T, and I drag a boat, often up to our NH place, 150 miles north. I could be tempted to buy that hybrid when I replace the R/T...

Cheers!

 

[passedpawn]

I'm not a Dodge guy, but I'd buy this next time up. I'll frequently take 200 or 300 mile trips and I don't want to mess with charging stations or walk up to my FIL with an extension cord at Thanksgiving.

FYI the Ram truck is not a Dodge. Look it up.

I love my Ram and I'd gladly get that hybrid next time. Seems like a sweet mix.

 

[day_trippr]

Anyone know if BEVs or HEVs have an aversion to occasional dunking, at least up to the rear axles if not near the wheel arches?
That would be a problem...

Cheers!

 

[day_trippr]

A lot more detail on the RAM hybrid here:

https://news.yahoo.com/electric-vehicle-sales-growth-slowing-002712095.html
There's potentially so much cool stuff one can do with traction motors behind a genset (could cut the drama on slick boat ramps), and using the battery and even genset to power a home through an outage, I can only wonder what the price tag is going to be for all the goodies....

Cheers!

 

[Airborneguy]

Anyone know if BEVs or HEVs have an aversion to occasional dunking, at least up to the rear axles if not near the wheel arches?
That would be a problem...

Cheers!

Mine has been dunked many times while launching my jetski. The battery compartment is fully sealed. Teslas for example can drive almost fully submerged for a short time.

 

[day_trippr]

This Tesla wasn't quite up to the full immersion challenge

https://news.yahoo.com/tesla-model-x-briefly-serves-173000545.html

 

[Kent88]

Lyndon Johnson wouldn't place an order, 'eh?

 

[Broothru]

Lyndon Johnson wouldn't place an order, 'eh?

Referring to the amphibious convertible that LBJ would “drive” into the lake with unsuspecting guests to the Ranch?

 

[Kent88]

Was it just one, or did LBJ have a small collection of amphibious cars?

 

[NickTheGreat]

FYI the Ram truck is not a Dodge. Look it up.

I love my Ram and I'd gladly get that hybrid next time. Seems like a sweet mix.

Potayto-potahtoe

 

[Broothru]

Was it just one, or did LBJ have a small collection of amphibious cars?

I was thinking it may have just been one. It was a funky looking little roadster type vehicle. Front bucket seats and a rear bench as I recall. Tiny little up front IC engine and conventional drivetrain of sorts, and an under-carriage driveshaft that spun a submerged prop on the back. The front and rear sloped up to accommodate entering and exiting a shoreline embankment.

I thought it looked like a Sunbeam Alpine with rear seats. LBJ used to load up a few unsuspecting first-time visitors to the ranch, take ‘em for a joyride across some pasture, and then fake going out of control and plunge into a nearby pond. Weird sense of humor.