Shocking!
Or just a tiny fraction of the money the oil companies spend on manufacturing lies and BS such as the supposed 'Chicago all the EV died' event. We could be filthy rich.
Once you get used to it (10 minutes) it becomes natural and hard to drive any other way. With single pedal driving, you have full authority of the rate of acceleration and also the rate of deceleration. Unlike before you could only modulate acceleration and coasting was always at the same rate.
Nope. They are all pretty basic. The money you spend is going toward battery and technology. I mostly look at the UI and so don't really GAF.
Maybe we aren't comparing the same thing? I only have experience with the Tesla version.
I have a couple of toyotas that do very slight auto regen and it annoys the dickens out of me. There are tons of times I want to coast, and I have to get the pedal just right to do it without eating a battery penalty.
It’s the best once you get used to it. I describe it like driving manual. You’re much more in control because unlike automatics, the car responds immediately when your foot moves, similarly to manuals.
It took me maybe a week. The first few days to get used to the mechanics of it so to speak then a few more days for my shin to stop aching. Now, there’s no going back. I’m all thrown off when I drive a gas car.
I have no issue with regenerative breaking. It's the interface that bothers me. If I want 0 thrust, I have to get the pedal in the perfect 1mm to get the car to quit doing stuff.
Hmmm. I get the idea of it. But, notwithstanding that regen is not 100% efficient, it captures substantial energy in the battery for later use. This is the essential genius of the Prius, and it also makes sense in BEVs. But I do get that previous methods of efficient driving don't apply to one-pedal driving, and that regen doesn't "feel right," especially at first.
Round trip it's generally ~60% efficient (ke-pe, power circuits, battery, power circuits, pe-ke), which is much better than friction brakes (0% efficient), but much worse than keeping KE if you can manage it.
In flying, whether it’s a fighter jet or a commercial airliner, three dimensional energy management becomes an inherent skill. Maybe it boils down to an acquired second nature reflex, but I rather enjoy playing the ‘mega miler’ game when driving our Prius (when SWMBO’d lets me).
At least for gens 2,3,4, accelerating with gas to 40 and then coasting to 30, then accelerating to 40 again gets you 80+mpg! One of the goals is to never use the battery, but to let the ICE shut off. (Hyper milers did/do this by turning off the car, but the Prius way seems much safer.)
If the new systems completely control MG with the accelerator pedal, and brake pedal only controls caveman brakes, I see a design arguement for that. Much easier to max regen. Personally I still want a positive thrust and negative thrust pedal, but I can see the logic for MG pedal and friction pedal.
Yes, ideally one could do both as appropriate to the moment (pun not intended). This requires some kind of mode switch, but shifting to neutral feels awkward.
That would work for me - I love myself some extra buttons. It's vaguely similar to engine breaking in a manual.
The original brake pads on my Gen2 Prius lasted 180,000 miles.
Efficiently managing your KE is quite easy with the single pedal system, at least in a Tesla. Neutral or coasting (no power into or out of the drive motors) is roughly mid accelerator pedal. With a little bit of practice you can feel this spot from inertia and experience but also can be confirmed with a glance of the prominent power meter in the gauge cluster.
Cool car!Well, traded my wife's ICE Tuscon for a 2024 Ionic 5 EV.
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Looks like 3.6kW (15A @240V). How do people wire these? For existing construction, maybe it works out if the panel is already in the garage, and you put in a little sub panel?
Sub panel for sure. I priced one out recently with a trusted local electrician for a 40’ run from the main breaker box (with a sub panel) for a 30A/240V outlet that would serve dual purpose for a charger and our RV when it’s not in storage.
Is there just a male plug? I assumed the bidi chargers must be hard wired or with the equivalent of a portable generator setup (with a receptacle on the unit for connection to inlet).
Haven't looked at this feature of the Ionic 5 yet. I saw it in the brochure, but it was not a factor in the choice. My wife wanted an SUV because it sits higher than a sedan, and she has difficulty getting in and out of lower vehicles. The powered lift gate was the deciding factor between the SE and SEL trim levels. Range is somewhat lower than the Ionic 6 sedan (they have the same chassis and drive chain) but the SUV has a higher coefficient of drag. Still the range is 250+ miles, and the furthest we usually go from the house is a 125 mi round trip.
