Double IPA Pliny the Elder Clone

[ultravista]

I brewed my modified version of Pliny last weekend. The most prominent change was Conan instead of the Chico strain. I moved the hops around and did two hop stands, one a few minutes after flame out (stood 30 minutes) then a second at 180 degrees (another 30 minutes). Magnum for bittering @ 60 mins, 1 ounce of Simcoe at 30 mins and the rest post-boil.

Will do a double-dose dry hop.

 

[ultravista]

Be ready to spend more for the hops than any other ingredient.

More Beer's Pliny recipe is great. Wait for it to go on sale, usually $42 or less. You can't beat that ...

 

[Hoofer]

Pulled a hydro sample today 11 days in and 3 days into the dry hop. Sitting at 1.010 from a 1.080 SG. If the finished beer tastes anything like this Im going to be real happy.

 

[Hoofer]

I guess the Pliny recipe will be my next batch. Will scale down to 2.5 gals. Looking forward to it.

Thats gonna take a lot of work and time for 2.5 gallons of finished beer! I will probably bottle 5 to 6 gallons when its all said and done but started with 9.25 gallons pre boil volume. Lots of hop and trub loss in this beasty.

 

[brewski09]

Thats gonna take a lot of work and time for 2.5 gallons of finiahed beer! I will probably bottle 5 to 6 gallons when its all said and done but started with 9.25 gallons pre boil volume. Lots of hop and trub loss in this beasty.

Yeah, but 5 gallons of beer is a lot for one person, especially a hoppy beer like this one that has a noticeable loss in hop quality over time.

 

[Laserrs]

Anyone have a BIAB conversion for this? Looking to result in 5gal in a keg.

 

[BlurryEyed]

Anyone have a BIAB conversion for this? Looking to result in 5gal in a keg.

This one looks pretty close, maybe a few adjustments:

http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/264451/pliny-the-elder-clone

Edit - I wrote my own to match the exact recipe posted here, you can scale it if you want:

http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/332810/pte

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Thinking about doing this but adding 1.5lbs rye for added character...any thoughts?

 

[brewski09]

I'd start lower with the rye so it doesn't overpower it. Or do a split fermentation using rye extract to see how much you need to get what you're looking for. To me rye drives the perceived bitterness way up and can easily knock a beer out of balance.

 

[blitzer]

Hi guys,
would like to try this clone, which is the best/recommended recipe version for Biab?

Just tried to put down recipe on the first page for my 12G rig, so i've to shoot for around 200ibu? OMG!

 

[BlurryEyed]

Hi guys,
would like to try this clone, which is the best/recommended recipe version for Biab?

Just tried to put down recipe on the first page for my 12G rig, so i've to shoot for around 200ibu? OMG!

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=7450298&postcount=758

 

[Laserrs]

Hi guys,
would like to try this clone, which is the best/recommended recipe version for Biab?

Just tried to put down recipe on the first page for my 12G rig, so i've to shoot for around 200ibu? OMG!

It doesn't calculate FWH IBU properly. Not sure it there's a. Box you can check or something but I k ow from the Zombie Dust thread it's a calculation error.

 

[FlaglerBC]

Anyone ever pitch a lager yeast on this? I have found one post online about it but no results.

 

[brewski09]

It doesn't calculate FWH IBU properly. Not sure it there's a. Box you can check or something but I k ow from the Zombie Dust thread it's a calculation error.

I think when you add the FWH on BeerSmith you can change the efficiency like you change the alpha acidity. If not there then I'd expect on the setting tabs like you are changing whirlpool hops efficiency (top toolbar).

 

[Scturo]

Getting ready to brew my extract Pliny clone kit this week. This will be my second brew. I'm a little surprised at the instructions included for the kits. They both have been a little generic. Luckily there is plenty of friendly advice on this board. Looking forward to it!

 

[slym2none]

Good luck, Scturo! Can't wait to see how this turns out for you.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Forgot to post! Almost 2 weeks fermenting now. No rye tho. Will start dry hopping late Thursday.

Update 4/1/16:
FG at 1.004!?! (was placed on a Rye PA yeast cake). 94% attenuation. First dry hop in. Tasting not as flavorful as others in the past after primary fermentation. Dry hops should cure that eh?

 

[Scturo]

Brew day complete. We'll see how it goes. Again, not crazy about the instructions. Still excited about the brew.



On to Secondary

 

[Jarheadri]

Ok... so I attempted this recipe over the weekend and totally spaced out and forgot to add the corn sugar.

How screwed am I?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Ok... so I attempted this recipe over the weekend and totally spaced out and forgot to add the corn sugar.

How screwed am I?

I've added 1lb dme into fermenter with no issues. Just spray sanitizer over everything first.

 

[Pkrd]

Ok... so I attempted this recipe over the weekend and totally spaced out and forgot to add the corn sugar.

How screwed am I?

You could boil up a sugar solution, cool it then add it. Or you could just leave it as is. It'll be sweeter and less boozy, still bloody good.

 

[cannman]

Ok... so I attempted this recipe over the weekend and totally spaced out and forgot to add the corn sugar.

How screwed am I?

Just wondering what you did...

If you haven't done anything yet, don't mess around with it

 

[JohnSand]

Brewed a minimash variation of this today. Warrior for bittering, all Zeus for flame-out. Had a boil over for just the right caramelization.

 

[Jarheadri]

Just wondering what you did...

If you haven't done anything yet, don't mess around with it

Decided to just leave it. It has been humming along fine. Going to move to secondary tomorrow and dry hop. I may split it in half and do half sugar and half just leave it alone. Not sure though.

 

[JohnSand]

It will be fine either way. Splitting is an interesting experiment, I've done it with different yeasts, spices, top off water.
Feeding it the sugar in the fermenter does no harm. It is standard practice in Belgian Strongs and high alcohol beer.

 

[Jarheadri]

It will be fine either way. Splitting is an interesting experiment, I've done it with different yeasts, spices, top off water.
Feeding it the sugar in the fermenter does no harm. It is standard practice in Belgian Strongs and high alcohol beer.

Ok! Gonna do it then! Do you think it will be ok to do the secondary in plastic buckets?

 

[JohnSand]

I don't really do a secondary. But I do my dry hops in the same plastic bucket I use to ferment.
Have fun, let us know how it works out.

 

[Jarheadri]

It will be fine either way. Splitting is an interesting experiment, I've done it with different yeasts, spices, top off water.
Feeding it the sugar in the fermenter does no harm. It is standard practice in Belgian Strongs and high alcohol beer.

So I did wind up splitting this into three when I moved to secondary fermentation and did first dry hop additon. I split them up as follows.

1) First gallon was my control/didn't do anything to it. Got a great rack and it was super clean/clear.
2) Second I added 1 1/3 cup of corn sugar to. Kind of screwed up the rack as I stirred up the trub/hops that sank down. Still got it to fill but really cloudy.
3) I only had about a 1/3 of a gallon left as the trub and the blow off took a LOT with it. This one I didn't care about so much so I put in some new yeast that I had lying around. It was really cloudy and just blah! Plus my cane was clogging so I just wound up dumping it in pretty much.

Results after a week:
1) Was a little concerned as it didn't seem to be doing much. After a couple of days though it started to bubble again. Super clear and color is rather dark.

2) Humming RIGHT along. The cloudiness has died down a lot and has a typical IPA color.

3) Going along too and color looks a little darker than the first.

Have to dry hop one more time over the weekend and then we shall see in another week!

 

[JohnSand]

Great! Let us know what happens.

 

[str1p3s]

I've heard bad things about dry hopping for more than 5-7 days. Should the first dry hop be put in a hop bag so it can be removed before the second dry hop?