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[Grodd87]

NFL draft too, but man, I think that ESPN ruined my enjoyment of this. It's become such an overblown and over-analyzed spectacle and runs longer than the ******* Super Bowl.

How 'bout the Ducks last night too? 4th consecutive year they lost a postseason game 7 on homce ice.

cant agree more on the draft it is hard to watch now I will turn on at 10:30 to see who the steelers pick might follow on Twitter while watching the pens game

 

[troygreer]

Agreed. Unless they are airing actual sporting events, I try to stay away from that network. Tired of being told what I should be interested in all the time....

Lucky for all of us ESPN's racket is crashing down. As more cord cutting happens, ESPN's ad $$$ continue to plummet. But this is what happens when you command the highest portion of someones cable bill, even if they don't want your channel.

I stopped watching ESPN (minus sporting events) years ago. They are the TMZ of the sports world and care more about drumming up a controversy than they do reporting on sports.

 

[jeevo]

Yeah, the talking heads on ESPN are like nails on a chalkboard. Agreed with preluderl says about the NFL Network. At least these guys talk about football and aren't trying to shout over / one up their co-hosts like they do on ESPN.

Listening to Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless "debate":

 

[AnotherPint4Ole]

Tried to do some multi-quoting action on my phone and subsequently got frustrated. The gist of what I was going to say:

Selling beer on the secondary market, and trading with the purpose of extorting max value out of your beer probably aren't that different. Thus you see a lot of people who are completely turned off by both practices. The key differences are probably that,

1) Reselling on the secondary market is illegal (then again so is shipping) and;

2) Even if someone trades for quantity or max value, while possibly annoying, at least presumably they're trading for beer that isn't available in their local market.

What barflybastard mentioned would probably be the most "pure" version of trading, and the least icky.

For me, trading is not the same as selling. Trading on some level is sharing--offering a product most likely not available to someone else, who has something mutually deemed to be of comparable value that is not available to me.

What people need to realize is, even if they can justify reselling their beer for more value for themselves, they are driving a higher price point for the beer which could come back and bite them in the ass.

Take Voodoo, as an example. Clearly against the practice of reselling their beer for profit. What if they had sold GNVP for $50 a bottle this last release instead of $20? Or BRC4 for $400 instead of ~200? Sure, we would all be pissed, but the beer would probably still eventually sell out, albeit much more slowly. Now the added value of demand goes into the hands of folks who labored to create the beer instead of some schmuck who waited in line for a couple hours. As an employee-owned company, Voodoo could even justify this as a noble effort to put more earnings into the hands of the employees, and feel pretty good about it at the end of the day.

Every "whale" has some price point where it will turd on shelves, waiting for #newmoney to casually buy it at their leisure.

Bottom line, we all get to enjoy Voodoo Barrel Room beers at below market value because they choose not to reap max value from us (customers). Don't be the D Bag that tempts them to put that $ into the more deserving hands of their owners, instead of guys that flip a $20 beer for $175. You will not like the result.

 

[chefduff2]

I'll give you a laugh, I'm excited about the NHL lottery Saturday to see where the Sabres land. Things have to get better eventually right? .. Of course unless you're the Leafs.

 

[preluderl]

Yeah, the talking heads on ESPN are like nails on a chalkboard. Agreed with preluderl says about the NFL Network. At least these guys talk about football and aren't trying to shout over / one up their co-hosts like they do on ESPN.

Listening to Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless "debate":

Yeah I've not watched any of the ESPN talking head shows in years. They're intolerable. I think maybe once or twice last season I watched the last 15-20 minutes of College Gameday before the noon games kicked, but that's pretty terrible too. I'm not sure how a many of Kirk Herbstreit's age doesn't realize that he should not have frosted tips.

 

[PSUMike]

Sorry to confuse, but I meant then why do the producers get mad when the hype that they, in part, contributed to mutates beyond their reins?

Exactly. Many are like mob wives. Look down their nose at the things their husbands do but happily take the fur coat that "fell off the back of the truck."

 

[Grodd87]

ESPN is dying a slow death and cost Disney more money every year the deals they have for the sports are killing them. Sports is going toward streaming and with Twitter having rights to broadcast nfl games next year it will hurt them more. Only thing on ESPN is worth watching is 30 for 30.

 

[kbuzz1]

Lucky for all of us ESPN's racket is crashing down. As more cord cutting happens, ESPN's ad $$$ continue to plummet. But this is what happens when you command the highest portion of someones cable bill, even if they don't want your channel.

I stopped watching ESPN (minus sporting events) years ago. They are the TMZ of the sports world and care more about drumming up a controversy than they do reporting on sports.

I cut the cord...but use my FIL's credentials for the ESPN app thingy on Amazon TV to watch the nationally broadcasted Pirates games, college bball and football. And before anyone goes comparing that apparent lack of morality somehow to the beer debate, let me make this clear: I hate ESPN, do not support them and it manifests itself as me "sharing" their app with another person.

 

[preluderl]

I cut the cord...but use my FIL's credentials for the ESPN app thingy on Amazon TV to watch the nationally broadcasted Pirates games, college bball and football. And before anyone goes comparing that apparent lack of morality somehow to the beer debate, let me make this clear: I hate ESPN, do not support them and it manifests itself as me "sharing" their app with another person.

You're actually just stealing from ESPN (and my extension, Disney), and I doubt anyone would ever really begrudge you that. The Mouse is robbing thousands of people a year who take their kids to Orlando.

 

[troygreer]

I cut the cord...but use my FIL's credentials for the ESPN app thingy on Amazon TV to watch the nationally broadcasted Pirates games, college bball and football. And before anyone goes comparing that apparent lack of morality somehow to the beer debate, let me make this clear: I hate ESPN, do not support them and it manifests itself as me "sharing" their app with another person.

Yeah I cut the cord 4 years ago and haven't looked back. I have ESPN as part of my Playstation Vue pkg. as well as the MLB pkg to watch the Tigers. I am pretty much covered for CBB, CFB, NHL and MLB with my Vue pkg and over the air HD antenna. ESPN is garbage.

 

[kbuzz1]

You're actually just stealing from ESPN (and my extension, Disney), and I doubt anyone would ever really begrudge you that. The Mouse is robbing thousands of people a year who take their kids to Orlando.

yeah, I first typed out "stealing", then replaced with "sharing"...

 

[preluderl]

yeah, I first typed out "stealing", then replaced with "sharing"...

 

[OneDropSoup]

Last thing Ima say on this (god, I hope) - all that trade talk that goes on for pages? The stuff that makes my & the other non-tradehounds' eyes glaze over? If you ask me, anyone who completes trades other than $4$ is no less guilty of perpetuating this economy & has zero moral superiority over someone flipping beer for a cash profit. I see no difference.

Fuuuuu. I need a break.

 

[uvm2003]

Last thing Ima say on this (god, I hope) - all that trade talk that goes on for pages? The stuff that makes my & the other non-tradehounds' eyes glaze over? If you ask me, anyone who completes trades other than $4$ is no less guilty of perpetuating this economy & has zero moral superiority over someone flipping beer for a cash profit. I see no difference.

Fuuuuu. I need a break.

Agree 100% - and the ones that use secondary market values? They should die of gonorreah and rot in hell.

 

[preluderl]

Agree 100% - and the ones that use secondary market values? They should die of gonorreah and rot in hell.

With Dan Marino?

 

[preluderl]

 

[Grodd87]

You're actually just stealing from ESPN (and my extension, Disney), and I doubt anyone would ever really begrudge you that. The Mouse is robbing thousands of people a year who take their kids to Orlando.

I am a Disney fanatic go once or twice a year so I am one of the people who got robbed also own a time share threw Disney so they got me for a long time.

 

[troygreer]

With Dan Marino?

 

[preluderl]

If you've not seen that movie, I don't know that I can do anything to help you.

 

[Calcifer]

Side bar - anyone know if Pizza Boy still has Permasmile bottles?

Sold out day of. 1500 bottles in a day.

They still had bottles available for on-site consumption as of 2:00 pm yesterday. They sold me one to go because I was chatting with the bartender about beer for a bit.

 

[PSUMike]

Ace Ventura

 

[troygreer]

Ace Ventura

Ah, ok thanks. That is why I was lost. Not my kinda movie.

 

[OneDropSoup]

Ah, ok thanks. That is why I was lost. Not my kinda movie.

Here ya go!

 

[troygreer]

Here ya go!

FTW!!!!!!!!! Yeah, **** that movie

A much better Cronenberg film -

 

[PSUMike]

A great offer for MBP from a great trader and all-around good guy.

http://www.beeradvocate.com/communi...am-mix-th-4-pack-other-options-inside.411244/

But I guess by taking this trade, you're morally bankrupt? Is that how it works now? If you post your house for sale for $200,000 and someone offers you $225,000, I guess you'd say no, that's too much?

I'll leave it at that.

 

[kbuzz1]

Here ya go!

What scene in Ace Ventura is that from? Think I might need to rewatch...

 

[epicureIO]

Has anyone went to a Beer Passport Game at PNC Park? What types of beer to they typically offer? I'm guessing 90 Minute and that sort?

Did PNC Park expand their craft draft section? https://untappd.com/v/pnc-park/4533

Am I allowed to trade a GNVP for a Rare 1:1 now that we've established I would be a thieving piece of petrified manatee ****?

 

[preluderl]

 

[nhindian1]

Interesting thread this morning...