Partial Mash, weird instructions

[juslod]

I just got a kit from Xtreme Brewing (xtremebrewing.com) that has some confusing instructions. I have done plenty of steeping special grains in extract kits. The ingredients are:

8 oz Black patent malt
8 oz Roasted barely
1 lb 60L Crystal
1 lb Flaked Barely
6 lb Dark DME
3/4 oz Warrior 60 min
1/2 oz Vanguard 30 min
Safale S04 Yeast

The kit came with 2 grain bags for all of the grains and the instructions read this:

1. Fill brewpot with water, add gypsum and stir.
2. Fill 2 grain bags with the grains.
3. Tie off the top and place bags in brewpot.
4. Heat the pot and stir the water and grain bags every 5 minutes.
5. Just as the water reaches 170 degrees, pull out the grain bags.

From there it just starts the boil, adds the DME / bittering hops etc.

Is it safe to assume this is just a steeping process, or because of the barely / added malts I need to do a mash for an hour? The instructions just make it sound like I will be steeping the grains for a short amount of time, because it wont take long to reach 170 degrees from my burner...

 

[mrk305]

That is weird. I personally would want to steep the grains for at least 30 minutes or even more at 151 before raising the temp.

 

[juslod]

So you would just steep the grains rather then do a 60 minute mash for them? I wasn't sure with that amount or those types of grains if I would get everything out of them by just steeping.

Sounds good though,

 

[mrk305]

Well, with no base malts you really don't have to do a mash, but it wouldn't hurt to hold them for an hour. I probably would. It can't hurt. It does look tasty.

 

[juslod]

Ok, that is what I will do then... I was thinking of adding some chocolate to this recipe as well, maybe some cocoa at flame out. What would you think and any clue on how much? I would just be guessing, this is my first stout!

 

[mrk305]

I wouldn't, but that is just me. I use nothing but grains and hops and sometimes honey in my beers. Once years ago I put just a touch of rasberry extract in half a batch of stout. That was kind of cool. The beer tasted kind of like tootsie roll pops.

sparge time...... I am brewing

 

[mrk305]

I am making the same thing I am drinking today, which is pretty rare. I hardley ever duplicate a batch this close together. It is not really a duplicate though, because I am using 10 pounds of morris otter in my base grains where the original was 12 pounds of two row.

10 # morris otter
2 # two row
1/2 # vienna
1/2 # rye

boil for 30 minutes then add

1 oz Citra Hops for 60
1/2 oz citra hops at 15 & 5

then i get to use my new refractometer that came in the mail today

 

[juslod]

Ok thanks, I'll probably just leave the recipe as is and steep the grains for 60 minutes.

 

[mrk305]

If you have a one gallon apple juice bottle you could make a mini fermentor and add some cocoa to that.

 

[juslod]

I just cleaned out a glass 1 gallon jug, that is a good idea. Thanks