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Sadly, I drank the remaining two Odell IPAs I had last night. On the other hand all I could do whilst drinking...other than watching Apollo and Rocky duke it out...was think "man I love this beer". Actually said it a couple times, which made my friend murmur something about the honeymoon suite at the motel 6 :off: Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had made a clone, and if so, wouldn't mind sharing the recipe. Probably one of my favorite bottles artwork wise as well.
 

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Ok. I am in the process of putting this recipe together. I just tried this beer finally in Fort Collins during GABF and it blew me away. I talked in detail with a few people, involved in brewing it etc. I will post this as soon as I finish :rockin:
 

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I got to try it there in Fort Collins and it was fabulous. There Town Pump Ale was ever better!

Sadly it was a brief visit on the 4th of July. I emailed them and never received a response. I hope someone can get some info on this beer.

Can't buy it here so I can only try to dream about the delicious hops.

Sorry I had no useful information for this post, just got my mouth salivating.
 
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Holy resurrected thread I didn't see that happening. When I created this post I was pretty new to brewing, so I had no idea how to put a recipe together, but now I think I might be up to the task with some help and experimenting. Unfortunately, I haven't had a lot of time to experiment since I'm brewing so many OTHER kinds of beers (I know it's a cryin' shame). However, I did come pretty damn close with a recipe this spring. I don't have beersmith with me so I can't do a print out right now, but this is the recipe I did. It definitely needs a little more malt background (maybe some biscuit?) It was also lacking in hop aroma so it needs something else there (Simcoe, Amarillo, more Chinook or Cascade?) When I think Odell's IPA I think of a citrus/floral smell, with grapefruit, pine and citrus flavors that finishes with a light caramel sweetness and hint of biscuit. I know there are some Odell fans out in Colorado, so if you all have any input bring it on.


9 lb Pale Malt
2 lb Vienna
1 lb Carmel 20L
0.5 lb CaraPils
1.0 oz Cascade @ 60
0.5 oz Chinook @ 30
0.5 oz Chinook @ 5
Mashed at 154*F
Nottingham Yeast fermented at 68*F

O.G. 1.063
F.G. 1.013
42 IBU's
7 SRM's
 

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I thought I heard it's dry hopped with Simcoe, which would explain a piney/cirtusy aroma.
 
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I thought I heard it's dry hopped with Simcoe, which would explain a piney/cirtusy aroma.
That's what I was thinking. The Chinook is close, and does add some grapefruit pine, but I'm sure Simcoe would up it a notch.

For reference this is what I made up against the actual thing. I'll try and make my next brew after the nut brown I do tomorrow another test batch

Ours


Odells
 

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It had some other citrus flavors, like pineapple & tangarine that made it so good in my mouth.
 

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That nose is pure citrus and DANK! I know for a fact, after speaking to the brewer, that it does indeed use COLUMBUS for the Hopback addition and dryhop. I will post my developed recipe soon... give me a week.
 
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Hmm Columbus...It seems odd that that's where most of the aroma comes from. I don't usually pick up the earthy herbal note, but I guess I'll just have to pick up a 6'er when I get off work :cross:
 

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I'm really looking forward to this recipe... I've got a pound of Columbus in the freezer!
 

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That nose is pure citrus and DANK! I know for a fact, after speaking to the brewer, that it does indeed use COLUMBUS for the Hopback addition and dryhop. I will post my developed recipe soon... give me a week.
Any luck with this serum? Odell's is my favorite IPA by far. $10.99 a six pack here, I'd love to be able to make my own.
 

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Still awaiting a few more details before I finish the recipe and post it up. I will brew it as soon as I finish it.
 

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All of a sudden, everyone got tight-lipped. No answers back on any of my emails. Everything was going great... I have a friend trying to ask for me this week!
 
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Ah dang it I got all excited when I saw there were new posts....oh well just keep us posted on it. I haven't brewed in a while so I haven't gotten around to formulating a hopefully semi close recipe for this yet. If their mouths remain glued shut I'll probably start a few test batches...if I get around to brewing again.
 

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Here's the response I received directly from the brewery last month:

I can't give out our recipes but I can let you in on a few things- some of the hops we use are Columbus, Perle, Chinook, Amarillo, and Centennial and we hop back using whole flowers of some of these. Some of the malts we use are Pale Malt, ESB Malt, Vienna, and Caramalt. The IPA is hop backed and dry hopped in addition to the boil.​
 

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I had to sign up today to help out with this recipe. I just had a tasting at a local beer store. The odells employee told me it is hopbacked and dry hoped with simcoe amarillo centennial and horizon. I just discovered amarillo and simcoe, so I definately tasted them. Hope this helps.
 

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Soooo.....
Any new news?? I love this IPA and would really enjoy brewing a clone.
 

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I just had this for the first time yesterday and the first thing I thought was "I need to brew a clone"
 

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I put together a recipe---its good!, but not the odell.

Malt & Fermentables

9 lbs 8oz Pale Liquid Extract
8oz Caramalt (Thomas Fawcett)
8oz Extra Special Malt (Briess)
8oz Carafoam
8oz Vienna Malt


Hops (pellets)

60 mins 1.0 Columbus
30 mins 1.0 Amarillo
20 mins 1.0 Cascade Ace
15 mins 1.0 Centennial
5 mins 1.0 Cascade
Dry Hop: 1oz Simcoe, 0.5oz Columbus, 0.5oz Perle, 0.5 oz Cascade

Yeast

Wyeast 1007 German Ale
 

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Khaler, try to sub out chinook for the columbus bittering hops. It gets much more O'Dell'y, but there's still room to tweak the hop schedule. More dry hops are never a bad thing either.
 

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Thanks!
Amen to the dry hopping.

I dont think i will be able to brew another batch of this until it cools off a bit- my designated "brew area" gets hot in the summer- 80-90F. I've been working on a Saison recipe that can handle the heat. We shall see. When it does finally cool off, you can bet that i will be brewing this again!
 

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At long last! Zymurgy just published a clone recipe for Odells IPA. It looks pretty close, although they recommend using Nottingham Ale Yeast and Odells says they use a German Ale Yeast. I think they may also be missing flavor hops additions in the middle of the boil. Let me know if any of you brew this and how close it is to the real thing.

Boil Time: 90 min.
IBUs: 47
SRM: 7
OG: 1.067
Assumed Efficiency: 75%

All Grain:
6 LB Gambrinus ESB Malt
5 LB Pale malt
2 LB Vienna malt
10 oz Thomas Fawcett Caramalt
8 oz Weyermann Carafoam
.75 oz Horizon pellet hops, 13% @ 90 minutes
.5 oz Simcoe pellet hops, 13% @ 90 minutes
1 oz Columbus whole hops, 15% in hopback or at burnout
1 oz Chinook whole hops, 13% in hopback or at burnout
.5 oz Simcoe (dry hop)
.5 oz Horizon (dry hop)
.5 oz Amarillo 13% (dry hop)
.5 oz Centennial 13% (dry hop)

Mash at 154 for 60 min. Mash out at 168. Ferment at 68 then condition in secondary on dry hops at 60 degrees for at least one week.

Mini Mash:
Substitute 6.7 LB of pale malt extract syrup for the pale malt and most of the ESB malt. Conduct a 60 minute mini mash at 154 with 2 lbs ESB malt, 2 lbs Vienna, and the specialty malts.
 
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This is great to see! I've been out of the brewing game for a few months, but just ordered 150 lbs of grain and will finally have the time to brew again. I've got everything I'll need to brew this bad boy up. It's 3rd in the pipeline, so I'll probably get to it in a couple weeks. Has anyone brewed this recipe yet? Let's get some taste tested results and opinions.
 

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At long last! Zymurgy just published a clone recipe for Odells IPA. It looks pretty close, although they recommend using Nottingham Ale Yeast and Odells says they use a German Ale Yeast. I think they may also be missing flavor hops additions in the middle of the boil. Let me know if any of you brew this and how close it is to the real thing.

Boil Time: 90 min.
IBUs: 47
SRM: 7
OG: 1.067
Assumed Efficiency: 75%

All Grain:
6 LB Gambrinus ESB Malt
5 LB Pale malt
2 LB Vienna malt
10 oz Thomas Fawcett Caramalt
8 oz Weyermann Carafoam
.75 oz Horizon pellet hops, 13% @ 90 minutes
.5 oz Simcoe pellet hops, 13% @ 90 minutes
1 oz Columbus whole hops, 15% in hopback or at burnout
1 oz Chinook whole hops, 13% in hopback or at burnout
.5 oz Simcoe (dry hop)
.5 oz Horizon (dry hop)
.5 oz Amarillo 13% (dry hop)
.5 oz Centennial 13% (dry hop)

Mash at 154 for 60 min. Mash out at 168. Ferment at 68 then condition in secondary on dry hops at 60 degrees for at least one week.

Mini Mash:
Substitute 6.7 LB of pale malt extract syrup for the pale malt and most of the ESB malt. Conduct a 60 minute mini mash at 154 with 2 lbs ESB malt, 2 lbs Vienna, and the specialty malts.
I saw that recipe and it is intriguing. I just wonder how the recipe was created and how it stacks up head to head. Has anyone tried it?

Eric
 

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The recipe was formulated by one of Zymergy's beer judges, and it wasn't done with any collaboration from Odell's. It looks like he nailed the grain bill based on info I've gotten from Odell's. I question his hop additions and yeast. I'm going to try brewing this in a couple weeks and I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
 

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I also will be brewing the PM version with my next batch, likely within a couple weeks and will report back.
 

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Any updates to report? I know IBUs calculated versus measured can differ quite a bit, but the little information available from ODell's website indicates 60 IBUs for the IPA. Those 2 oz of flameout hop additions likely add SOME IBUs, which won't show up in bitterness calcs from software. German Ale Yeast - interesting. It definitely is a clean malt, late-hop-heavy beer.

http://odellbrewing.com/beers/classic/ipa
 

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Poured my first glass out of the keg last night. It was a little more hazy than Odells but the aroma and taste were very similar! It's the best clone I've brewed. Although it's not identical it's close enough that my wife didn't know the difference. It will probably become my house IPA.
 

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I used US-05. I have been enjoying US-05 for my APAs and IPAs lately as it's clean and lets the hops shine.

What yeast are you thinking of using?
 

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Odells says they use a German yeast in their beers, but I've tried both a German Ale yeast and even a Kolsch and neither one of them were very close. They did create a really clean IPA though. I'll have to try the US-05.
 

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I know the yeast isn't accurate so if you're looking for a true clone maybe US-05 isn't the way to go. It might not be a clone but it makes good beer :)
 
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I just had an Odells IPA on tap a few weeks ago, it was amazing..I'm gonna give the LHBS a ring and start putting together a partial mash recipe--cant wait to get this one going..I'll use the US-05 like noted earlier.
 

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Lemme know how this comes out casino. Got to try one my buddy brought back from boarding in New Mexico and it was outstanding.
 

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Hey guys, this isn't THE recipe for an Odell IPA clone, but I drank mine side by side with the Odell and couldn't tell the difference. Mine didn't age quite as well, because I didn't get all the dry hop leavin's out at bottling. So at about 2months in the bottle, a couple of them had a slight grassy taste. Not terrible, but something I notice (friends don't).

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/my-holy-hops-recipe-298071/
 
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